Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-06 Thread Dan Shafer

Thanks for all the input. After considering everyone's viewpoints, looking
at my own interests, talking with some of the veteran RevHeads and checking
in with the Mother Ship, I've decided my next eBooklet will be on standalone
creation.

I'll post an outline of the specific topics as soon as I can get a handle on
how big the beast is.

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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-06 Thread Dan Shafer

I'm guessing that my book on standalone creation will also have to cover the
issues of cross-platform deployment you mention. I won't, however, try to
cover things like raster vs. vector graphics, communicating with externals
(though including them in the build process is obviously important), and OS
functions. That may be a separate volume.

But I need to examine carefully how much I can cover in a $5 ebooklet. It
may take more than one to do this topic justice.



On 7/6/06, Viktoras Didziulis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Dan,

I would suggest adding a couple of sections on handling raster and vector
graphics in Revolution which would be helpful too.
Also all the basics and details on communicating with externals, libraries
and OS functions and devices would be good to have in same book :-)

Best regards
Viktoras

On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 23:33:06 -0700, "Dan Shafer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to
> produce a
> SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
> candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that
> fundamental changes
> in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in
> votes,
> feedback, other suggestions, etc.
>
> * Script-based commands
>
> Edit script, editscript, wait, do, scriptlimits, text/font related
> properties, insert script, remove script, start using
>
> * The Message Box
>
> Examination of all panes, properties, uses of the Message Box
>
> * Debugging strategies and techniques
>
> * Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript
>
> * Building and Deploying Standalones
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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-06 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
 Hi Dan,
 
I would suggest adding a couple of sections on handling raster and vector
graphics in Revolution which would be helpful too.
Also all the basics and details on communicating with externals, libraries
and OS functions and devices would be good to have in same book :-)
 
Best regards
Viktoras
 
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 23:33:06 -0700, "Dan Shafer" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to 
> produce a 
> SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are 
> candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that 
> fundamental changes 
> in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in 
> votes, 
> feedback, other suggestions, etc. 
> 
> * Script-based commands 
> 
> Edit script, editscript, wait, do, scriptlimits, text/font related 
> properties, insert script, remove script, start using 
> 
> * The Message Box 
> 
> Examination of all panes, properties, uses of the Message Box 
> 
> * Debugging strategies and techniques 
> 
> * Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript 
> 
> * Building and Deploying Standalones 
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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-06 Thread Graham Samuel
On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 23:33:06 -0700, "Dan Shafer"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to  
produce a

SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that  
fundamental changes
in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in  
votes,

feedback, other suggestions, etc.

* Script-based commands

Edit script, editscript, wait, do, scriptlimits, text/font related
properties, insert script, remove script, start using

* The Message Box

Examination of all panes, properties, uses of the Message Box

* Debugging strategies and techniques

* Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript

* Building and Deploying Standalones


Hi Dan

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply - I agree with others that  
debugging is a very interesting topic. I've written a lot of Rev code  
but I have never got beyond the simplest debugging tools, because I  
never seem to have time to experiment with what's on offer,  
particularly in the 'Development' menu of the RunRev IDE. An eBooklet  
would help get round this, and I'd certainly buy it.


I'm also keen on the Standalones idea, particularly if it addresses  
the issue of platform-specific quirks and difficulties - at least for  
Mac and PC (sorry, Richmond).


This also leads me to suggest an eBooklet dedicated to cross-platform  
issues such as fonts (and font sizes), menus, OS pitfalls and the  
like: the aim would be to guide people trying to produce a single  
code base for a multi-platform app, and would cover stuff like why  
and where to put conditional code which queries which OS the prog is  
running in, etc.


HTH

Graham
(just off to buy your booklet on Printing)


Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France

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Re: Possible new book titles

2006-07-05 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 5/7/06 18:10, Steve Goldberg wrote:
One thing I think is needed is a thorough explanation of all the checkboxes 
and fields in the various property inspectors.   I've been using Revolution for 
two years now and am still unsure about the uses of a number of items in the 
Property Inspectors, which do not appear to be well-documented in the user 
guide.


Steve,

(you may have already clocked this but in case not)

it's worth noting that virtually every control in the property inspectors 
directly targets a particularly property of the object, and that these 
properties are in general documented.  But - they're not necessarily 
documented under the names that they have in the property inspector.  Here 
comes the tip: if you float your mouse over the control in the PI, the 
tool-tip displayed is the actual property name which you can then lookup in 
the documentation.


There's also a preference which reverses this: it makes the PI use the actual 
property name for each checkbox (etc), and puts the more verbose label into 
the tool-tip.


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Re: Possible new book titles

2006-07-05 Thread Dan Shafer

I agree, Stephen. I've actually started that project. But my concern is that
forthcoming changes in the IDE may render a lot of what I'd write obsolete
before I'd sold enough copies to recoup my cost. SO that's on the list, but
not near term.

On 7/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Dan,
One thing I think is needed is a thorough explanation of all the
checkboxes
and fields in the various property inspectors.   I've been using
Revolution for
two years now and am still unsure about the uses of a number of items in
the
Property Inspectors, which do not appear to be well-documented in the user
guide.   It think such explanation should make it easier for new users to
get
into Revolution and also give more experienced users added abilities.
Steve Goldberg

In a message dated 7/4/06 2:25:46 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:


> OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to produce a
> SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
> candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that fundamental
changes
> in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in votes,
> feedback, other suggestions, etc.
>

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Possible new book titles

2006-07-05 Thread Stgoldberg
Dan,
One thing I think is needed is a thorough explanation of all the checkboxes 
and fields in the various property inspectors.   I've been using Revolution for 
two years now and am still unsure about the uses of a number of items in the 
Property Inspectors, which do not appear to be well-documented in the user 
guide.   It think such explanation should make it easier for new users to get 
into Revolution and also give more experienced users added abilities.
Steve Goldberg

In a message dated 7/4/06 2:25:46 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:


> OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to produce a
> SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
> candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that fundamental changes
> in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in votes,
> feedback, other suggestions, etc.
> 

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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-05 Thread André.Bisseret


I much appreciated your book on "Printing" and
I would be very much interested by a book on "Debugging strategies  
and techniques".


Best regards from Grenoble
André

Le 4 juil. 06 à 08:33, Dan Shafer a écrit :

OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to  
produce a

SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that  
fundamental changes
in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in  
votes,

feedback, other suggestions, etc.

* Script-based commands

Edit script, editscript, wait, do, scriptlimits, text/font related
properties, insert script, remove script, start using

* The Message Box

Examination of all panes, properties, uses of the Message Box

* Debugging strategies and techniques

* Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript

* Building and Deploying Standalones

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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-04 Thread Thomas McGrath III

Dan,

FWIW, I and others have been talking about the distribution of  
standalones and password issues and timers, etc. If this were  
thoroughly explored in detail I would purchase this. Also any tricks  
in Building SAs with icons and Start Bar menu's and Dock menu's and  
CD distribution, password protection, etc.


My issue with CD distribution was that on the Windows side the  
external and alias for the app needed to be in a certain place in  
order for my paths to find it but the Mac side needed them to be  
somewhere else. I ended up having duplicate folders with the same  
(300 + images) media for distribution so as to not break the file  
paths. I know better now but I would have loved to have known before  
I started some of the pitfalls.


My next project is an external/ library release and I would love to  
know some of the pitfalls before finishing this.


Regards,

Tom

On Jul 4, 2006, at 2:33 AM, Dan Shafer wrote:

OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to  
produce a

SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that  
fundamental changes
in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in  
votes,

feedback, other suggestions, etc.

* Script-based commands

Edit script, editscript, wait, do, scriptlimits, text/font related
properties, insert script, remove script, start using

* The Message Box

Examination of all panes, properties, uses of the Message Box

* Debugging strategies and techniques

* Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript

* Building and Deploying Standalones

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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-04 Thread Bill
I agree on debugging too.


On 7/4/06 8:12 AM, "Ben Rubinstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 4/7/06 13:03, Sarah Reichelt wrote:
>>> 
>>> * Debugging strategies and techniques
>>> 
>>> * Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript
>>> 
>>> * Building and Deploying Standalones
>> 
>> Any of the last 3 would get my vote, with debugging possibly the top
>> of the list.
>> 
> 
> I agree precisely with Sarah - I think those three are probably the most
> useful, with debugging marginally out in front.
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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-04 Thread Ben Rubinstein

On 4/7/06 13:03, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


* Debugging strategies and techniques

* Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript

* Building and Deploying Standalones


Any of the last 3 would get my vote, with debugging possibly the top
of the list.



I agree precisely with Sarah - I think those three are probably the most 
useful, with debugging marginally out in front.


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Re: Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-04 Thread Sarah Reichelt

OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to produce a
SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that fundamental changes
in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in votes,
feedback, other suggestions, etc.

* Script-based commands

Edit script, editscript, wait, do, scriptlimits, text/font related
properties, insert script, remove script, start using

* The Message Box

Examination of all panes, properties, uses of the Message Box

* Debugging strategies and techniques

* Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript

* Building and Deploying Standalones


Any of the last 3 would get my vote, with debugging possibly the top
of the list.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Possible New Book Titles

2006-07-03 Thread Dan Shafer

OK, I'm trying to figure out the best next subject on which to produce a
SmartEBook eBooklet. The following topics remain on my list and are
candidates based on the relatively small likelihood that fundamental changes
in Rev will obsolete them in the next year. I'd be interested in votes,
feedback, other suggestions, etc.

* Script-based commands

Edit script, editscript, wait, do, scriptlimits, text/font related
properties, insert script, remove script, start using

* The Message Box

Examination of all panes, properties, uses of the Message Box

* Debugging strategies and techniques

* Parameters, Variables and Values in Transcript

* Building and Deploying Standalones

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