Re: Puzzling with ads on magazine pages (Off Topic ?)

2002-04-12 Thread Subscriber

Ahh a classic Operational Research 'Packing' Problem. Comes in many
shapes and forms. These problems 'seem' to be quite simple, until you start
looking at the options. Take a look at

http://arp.anu.edu.au/www/software/piclay/html/piclaydemo.html

Which states "Arranging pictures or photographs on a wall or a sheet of
paper can be viewed as a layout problem that consists in placing a set of
rectangles on a large rectangle so that there are no overlaps, and all edges
are parallel to either the vertical or horizontal edge of the large
rectangle..." (includes JAVA source code if required).

This should give you ideas about how to approach the problem. Otherwise
search on 'Operational Research Packing' on the web. You'll find there's no
right answer and that everyone else tells you their solution is
better/faster/more efficient.

Have Fun !

Gary Rathbone


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From: "Terry Vogelaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 5:41 AM
Subject: Puzzling with ads on magazine pages


> I need to make a program that figures out how a couple of rectangles fit
> best into a number of larger rects. OK, this sounds too cunfusing. I need
to
> make a program that fits several advertisements on 12 magazine pages. And
I
> want Revolution to figure out what ad should be placed where. None of the
> ads has a standard width or height. The ads don't need to align, however.
As
> long as they fit and as long as they don't overlap.
>
> Challenging, isn't it?
>
> Any suggestions to get started?
>
> Terry
> http://www.discovery.nl
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Re: Puzzling with ads on magazine pages

2002-04-10 Thread David Vaughan


On Thursday, April 11, 2002, at 02:41 , Terry Vogelaar wrote:

> I need to make a program that figures out how a couple of rectangles fit
> best into a number of larger rects. OK, this sounds too cunfusing. I 
> need to
> make a program that fits several advertisements on 12 magazine pages. 
> And I
> want Revolution to figure out what ad should be placed where. None of 
> the
> ads has a standard width or height. The ads don't need to align, 
> however. As
> long as they fit and as long as they don't overlap.
>
> Challenging, isn't it?
>
> Any suggestions to get started?

Terry,

Yes. You could start with a bin-packing algorithm but that would choose 
the minimum number of pages and give you a jammed layout on some with 
little or nothing on others. I do not know how tight the constraints but 
how about starting by sorting the rectangles (the ads) by size then 
distributing from largest down across the pages, one per page, then 
continue iterating across the pages in descending size as long as they 
fit. At the end, randomise your pages so that as you turn them you are 
not obviously descending by largest ad size.

Alternatively, start with the size-sorted ads and in groups of twelve 
randomly distribute them one to each page.

One of these ought to give a reasonable size balance between any two 
pages. You can always fiddle at the end for aesthetics once you have a 
draft layout.

Will that get you started?

cheers
David

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Puzzling with ads on magazine pages

2002-04-10 Thread Terry Vogelaar

I need to make a program that figures out how a couple of rectangles fit
best into a number of larger rects. OK, this sounds too cunfusing. I need to
make a program that fits several advertisements on 12 magazine pages. And I
want Revolution to figure out what ad should be placed where. None of the
ads has a standard width or height. The ads don't need to align, however. As
long as they fit and as long as they don't overlap.

Challenging, isn't it?

Any suggestions to get started?

Terry
http://www.discovery.nl


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