Re: Question about backgrounds

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 2:54 PM -0700 9/20/2002, ncouch wrote:
>In Hypercard I was used to being able to manipulate backgrounds at will and
>have it applied to all other cards automatically.  In Revolution I find that
>if I modify the background then the other cards with the same background
>lose the background (and all data thereon) altogether.  I have looked
>through the help and tutorials with little insight on how to accomplish
>this.

The only time that should happen is if you ungroup the group you're working
with (which makes it not a group any more). Is this what you're doing?

It's possible to ungroup and re-group without leaving the card, and have
the group still appear on the other cards it's supposed to be on. But it's
much safer to select the group and then choose Edit Group (from the Object
menu, or click Edit on the Toolbar), make changes, then choose Edit Group
again to leave the mode. This will prevent having the group disappear from
other cards since you never ungroup the objects.

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Re: Question about backgrounds

[Geoff Canyon]

At 4:54 PM -0500 9/20/02, ncouch wrote:
>Okay I am a newbie to Revolution.  I have used Hypercard 2.4 for decades and
>find the "Revolution" view of backgrounds a bit confusing.
>
>In Hypercard I was used to being able to manipulate backgrounds at will and
>have it applied to all other cards automatically.  In Revolution I find that
>if I modify the background then the other cards with the same background
>lose the background (and all data thereon) altogether.  I have looked
>through the help and tutorials with little insight on how to accomplish
>this.  
>
>Is there a way to manipulate the background on one card and have it
>automatically applied to the other cards without having to re-create the
>other cards?

What steps are you taking? In general, if a background is on multiple cards (they 
don't have to be) and you make a change to it, it will still be on the other cards, 
and the change will be displayed. The exception is if you ungroup a background, make 
changes to it, and only regroup it after going to (and returning from) another card.

Here is a reference to the section of the documentation that covers groups and 
backgrounds in detail. There's a lot of information, but that's because groups are so 
powerful.


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Re: Question about backgrounds

[Roger . E . Eller]

Nate,

I also started with HyperCard. I also found the differences between Rev and
HC
to be an annoyance until I got more accustomed to the differences. Rev is
definitely more powerful and versatile.

The easiest way to simulate HC backgrounds is to start with a clean new
stack.
Build all of the controls and fields that should appear on all cards.
Select all,
and group those items. Look at the properties of the group and look at the
last
tab labeled "Group". Make sure "Background Behavior" is checked. If it is
not,
this group only lives on the current card. And this is the key to working
in a
simulated HC world... Always select the group and Edit the group when you
need
to add objects to your background. This way they automatically appear on
all
of the cards.

~Roger Eller
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- - - - - - Nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Recently Wrote:
> Okay I am a newbie to Revolution.  I have used Hypercard 2.4 for decades
and
> find the "Revolution" view of backgrounds a bit confusing.
>
> In Hypercard I was used to being able to manipulate backgrounds at will
and
> have it applied to all other cards automatically.  In Revolution I find
that
> if I modify the background then the other cards with the same background
> lose the background (and all data thereon) altogether.  I have looked
> through the help and tutorials with little insight on how to accomplish
> this.
>
> Is there a way to manipulate the background on one card and have it
> automatically applied to the other cards without having to re-create the
> other cards?
>
> Any insights?
>
> Nate



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Question about backgrounds

[ncouch]

Okay I am a newbie to Revolution.  I have used Hypercard for decades and
find the "Revolution" view of backgrounds and groups a bit confusing.

In Hypercard I was used to being able to manipulate backgrounds at will and
have it applied to all other cards automatically.  In Revolution I find that
if I modify the background on one card then the other cards with the same
background lose the background (and all data therein) altogether.  I have
looked through the help and tutorials with little insight on how to
accomplish this.  

Is there a way to manipulate the background, or more specifically a group on
a background, on one card and have it automatically applied to the other
cards without having to re-create the other cards?

Any insights?

Nate

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Question about backgrounds

[ncouch]

Okay I am a newbie to Revolution.  I have used Hypercard 2.4 for decades and
find the "Revolution" view of backgrounds a bit confusing.

In Hypercard I was used to being able to manipulate backgrounds at will and
have it applied to all other cards automatically.  In Revolution I find that
if I modify the background then the other cards with the same background
lose the background (and all data thereon) altogether.  I have looked
through the help and tutorials with little insight on how to accomplish
this.  

Is there a way to manipulate the background on one card and have it
automatically applied to the other cards without having to re-create the
other cards?

Any insights?

Nate

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