RE: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

2007-02-09 Thread Mark Powell
You might look at the Visual Communicator product from a company called
Serious Magic.

http://www.seriousmagic.com/ 

The company has been acquired by Adobe, so I don't know how they plan on
integrating it into their offerings.  It is very script-based ('script'
as in the playwright/Hollywood sense, not in the progammatic sense) and
like everything has its pro's and con's.

Mark



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Hiya,

Had a little think:

Keynote can export to QT movie format:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Keynote/3.0/en/key18.html
I'm assuming this can be scripted.

Script the audio (pre-recorded and tagged): Tag the QT mov to pull in
and play the audio - Save the QT mov with the audio.

Convert the QT mov to DVD format. I haven't done any QT mov conversions,
but I have used VisualHub (http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/) to
convert other file types to DVD. I recall there being an additional
download to do this from the Apple site (the mpeg2encoder methinks) for
VisualHub to do it, but I can't be sure right now.
It also exports for iPod, so you could offer that as an alternative to
the DVD...

Don't know if this helps.

Cheers,

Luis.


Sivakatirswami wrote:
> Luis wrote:
>> Hiya,
>>
>> Would you detail the setup a little more?
>> To mind is a HD cam, but I'm not sure I'm seeing what you require 
>> straight off.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Luis.
> 
> 1) Presentations are created in Keynote
> 
> 2) At the end of the KeyNote, you want to just hand out to the 
> audience the presentation on a DVDs.
> 
> 3) It obviously does not have the audio by the presentor.
> 
> 4) We have been recording the presentation "live" in studio a setting 
> while running the Keynote and capturing this with SnapzPro.
> It works fairly well. We were able to go up to nearly 30 minute and 
> the G 5 handled it pretty well.
> 
> Does that help?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Feb 2007, at 22:08, Sivakatirswami wrote:
>>
>>> We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle (once very two 
>>> years we do major "enterprise" hardware upgrade here.)
>>>
>>> And we are taking a hard look at "must have" equipment.
>>>
>>> Some background: (Apple only, OSX)
>>>
>>> We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from a 
>>> Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible "jump thru hoops"
>>> where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop 
>>> production station
> [snip]
> 
>>> Obviously the SnapzPro is "price is right" vs a $5M conversion box..

>>> but I would
>>> be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that 
>>> SnapzPro cannot...
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

2007-02-09 Thread Luis

Hiya,

Had a little think:

Keynote can export to QT movie format:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Keynote/3.0/en/key18.html
I'm assuming this can be scripted.

Script the audio (pre-recorded and tagged): Tag the QT mov to pull in 
and play the audio - Save the QT mov with the audio.


Convert the QT mov to DVD format. I haven't done any QT mov conversions, 
but I have used VisualHub (http://www.techspansion.com/visualhub/) to 
convert other file types to DVD. I recall there being an additional 
download to do this from the Apple site (the mpeg2encoder methinks) for 
VisualHub to do it, but I can't be sure right now.
It also exports for iPod, so you could offer that as an alternative to 
the DVD...


Don't know if this helps.

Cheers,

Luis.


Sivakatirswami wrote:

Luis wrote:

Hiya,

Would you detail the setup a little more?
To mind is a HD cam, but I'm not sure I'm seeing what you require 
straight off.


Cheers,

Luis.


1) Presentations are created in Keynote

2) At the end of the KeyNote, you want to just hand out to the audience
the presentation on a DVDs.

3) It obviously does not have the audio by the presentor.

4) We have been recording the presentation "live" in studio a
setting while running the Keynote and capturing this with SnapzPro.
It works fairly well. We were able to go up to nearly 30 minute and
the G 5 handled it pretty well.

Does that help?





On 8 Feb 2007, at 22:08, Sivakatirswami wrote:


We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle
(once very two years we do major "enterprise" hardware upgrade here.)

And we are taking a hard look at "must have" equipment.

Some background: (Apple only, OSX)

We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from
a Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible "jump thru hoops"
where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop
production station 

[snip]

Obviously the SnapzPro is "price is right" vs a $5M conversion box.. 
but I would

be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that SnapzPro
cannot...

Thanks!

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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

2007-02-08 Thread Chipp Walters

It appears their Mac only version is still in beta.

On 2/8/07, Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Camtasia is the industry standard on the PC side, and they've recently
announced a version for the Mac, though I'm not sure if it's ready.
They have really really nice editing software and can deliver in many
ways including QT, Flash and other formats.

HTH,
Chipp


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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

2007-02-08 Thread Chipp Walters

Camtasia is the industry standard on the PC side, and they've recently
announced a version for the Mac, though I'm not sure if it's ready.
They have really really nice editing software and can deliver in many
ways including QT, Flash and other formats.

HTH,
Chipp
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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

2007-02-08 Thread Sivakatirswami

Luis wrote:

Hiya,

Would you detail the setup a little more?
To mind is a HD cam, but I'm not sure I'm seeing what you require 
straight off.


Cheers,

Luis.


1) Presentations are created in Keynote

2) At the end of the KeyNote, you want to just hand out to the audience
the presentation on a DVDs.

3) It obviously does not have the audio by the presentor.

4) We have been recording the presentation "live" in studio a
setting while running the Keynote and capturing this with SnapzPro.
It works fairly well. We were able to go up to nearly 30 minute and
the G 5 handled it pretty well.

Does that help?





On 8 Feb 2007, at 22:08, Sivakatirswami wrote:


We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle
(once very two years we do major "enterprise" hardware upgrade here.)

And we are taking a hard look at "must have" equipment.

Some background: (Apple only, OSX)

We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from
a Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible "jump thru hoops"
where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop
production station 

[snip]

Obviously the SnapzPro is "price is right" vs a $5M conversion box.. 
but I would

be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that SnapzPro
cannot...

Thanks!

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Re: OT: The State of Video Capture Spring 2007

2007-02-08 Thread Luis

Hiya,

Would you detail the setup a little more?
To mind is a HD cam, but I'm not sure I'm seeing what you require  
straight off.


Cheers,

Luis.

On 8 Feb 2007, at 22:08, Sivakatirswami wrote:


We are in the midst of our hard ware upgrade cycle
(once very two years we do major "enterprise" hardware upgrade here.)

And we are taking a hard look at "must have" equipment.

Some background: (Apple only, OSX)

We are ramping up video production in a big way and getting from
a Keynote to a DVD is right now an incredible "jump thru hoops"
where, using SnapzPro on our biggest G5 dual processor desktop
production station (which we move into a "sound room") where
we run the Keynote with  a high end mic attached to the box
to get a humungous Apple Animation file which we can then
convert to full screen presentation quality for DVD etc.  It works.


We looked into converters before. Total Training production Manager
in New York (if you haven't seen Deke McClelens training videos
you are missing a treat!)  told me they  they used a $25,000
plus video converter for their work but that there were less expensive
models that would still do a good job in the $4,000-6,000 range.
Meanwhile another team member here was talking with Apple Education
dept who recommended a low end model $400.00 or something.
Well guess what, non-profit org bought the $400.00 model.. it was a  
disaster

we sent it back... Meanwhile we developed the SnapzPro work flow
and did a few productions with that.

So much for history:

SnapzPro recently announced an Intel version which should run on  
our new
intel machines when they arrive, but I wanted to query the list on  
hardware

options or software alternatives. We need to be able to dub over
during runtime play-recourd, voice input from an external mic.

All insights, past experience "wisdom" "best directions" etc welcome
email me off list unless you think everyone should hear what you  
have to

say.

Obviously the SnapzPro is "price is right" vs a $5M conversion  
box.. but I would
be interested to know what a hardware solution might offer that  
SnapzPro

cannot...

Thanks!


Sivakatirswami
www.himalayanacademy.com

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