Re: Phishy Paypal -- those guys pushing the envelope
Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i did forward a phishy message to PayPal and got an immediate response. me, too me, too! /me, too and got (almost) immediately 2 PayPal scams! seems that those ù$^)* are very active... -- Revolutionario ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal -- those guys pushing the envelope
Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i did forward a phishy message to PayPal and got an immediate response. me, too me, too! /me, too and got (almost) immediately 2 PayPal scams! seems that those ù$^)* are very active... -- Revolutionario ___ Is it possible a trojan on your computer is covertly sending copies of your email to a bad guy? As I understand it, the average Windows machine connected to the internet is infected with a couple of dozen malware items. Otherwise, it's likely a coincidence. I get two or three phishing spams a day. Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal -- those guys pushing the envelope
PayPal and eBay have a strong commercial incentive to discourage phishing. I'd guess they are working hard on the problem, as we speak. If you happen to notice a phishing message in mailbox shortly after it arrives, forward it immediately (including all headers) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] If users keep doing this, some of these creeps will eventually get caught, and get severely punished. If the phishing message is more than a few hours old, don't bother. Tim --- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PayPal phishing their own customers for info just doesn't make sense. those guys are always pushing the envelope refered to the bad guys in Romania or wherever. the range of responses was VERY informative. btw, spellcheck shows Gascony and Goatskin. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal -- those guys pushing the envelope
--- Timothy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you happen to notice a phishing message in mailbox shortly after it arrives, forward it immediately (including all headers) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] If users keep doing this, some of these creeps will eventually get caught, and get severely punished. If the phishing message is more than a few hours old, don't bother. i did forward a phishy message to PayPal and got an immediate response. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
i am getting bogus PayPal email asking for card info etc. so nfar just deleting is working but these guys are always pushing the envelope. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Phishy Paypal
I can't tell you how much they do! And they certainly dont take their customer's problems seriously either! X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Hansen Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:58 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Phishy Paypal i am getting bogus PayPal email asking for card info etc. so nfar just deleting is working but these guys are always pushing the envelope. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
On Oct 22, 2005, at 4:19 AM, MisterX wrote: I can't tell you how much they do! And they certainly don’t take their customer's problems seriously either! If you mean PayPal -- it's pretty clearly not PayPal sending out all that PayPal phishing spam. Charles Hartman X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Hansen Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:58 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Phishy Paypal i am getting bogus PayPal email asking for card info etc. so nfar just deleting is working but these guys are always pushing the envelope. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. I sent the email on to both and got a response very quickly. The emails stopped soon after. Tom McGrath On Oct 22, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Charles Hartman wrote: On Oct 22, 2005, at 4:19 AM, MisterX wrote: I can't tell you how much they do! And they certainly don’t take their customer's problems seriously either! If you mean PayPal -- it's pretty clearly not PayPal sending out all that PayPal phishing spam. Charles Hartman X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Hansen Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 9:58 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Phishy Paypal i am getting bogus PayPal email asking for card info etc. so nfar just deleting is working but these guys are always pushing the envelope. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
The Other T.M. wrote: Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. I sent the email on to both and got a response very quickly. The emails stopped soon after. This T.M.'s experience: Eerily similar. I've been testing my Instant Payment Notification cgi--having it email me when payments are completed, and lo and behold every time I tested it I got a piece of spam right next to my PayPal one. Could be on my side, though...h. tm ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
Thomas- Saturday, October 22, 2005, 5:28:50 AM, you wrote: Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. Well, eBay does own PayPal, so... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. I sent the email on to both and got a response very quickly. The emails stopped soon after. Tom McGrath The phishers do not necessarily have PayPal mailing lists. I have neither a PayPal nor eBay account, and I get plenty of phishing spams for both companies. So the phishers are just using regular spam lists and hoping to hit PayPal and eBay customers. Bruce Pokras Blazing Dawn Software www.blazingdawn.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
true. if you check carefully that kind of phishy emails, you'll notice that very often it sends data back to a server located in Romania... JB The phishers do not necessarily have PayPal mailing lists. I have neither a PayPal nor eBay account, and I get plenty of phishing spams for both companies. So the phishers are just using regular spam lists and hoping to hit PayPal and eBay customers. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Sounds reasonable. Why would PayPal phish its own customers? Weird idea -- or an ultimate perfection of capitalism? Charles Hartman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal emails and sites! Dennis On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:22 PM, Bruce A. Pokras wrote: Obviously it is not PayPal doing it BUT someone IS gaining access to either PayPal and/or eBay and their mailing lists 'when someone does a transaction'. This started for me right after an eBay sale and PayPal transaction. I sent the email on to both and got a response very quickly. The emails stopped soon after. Tom McGrath The phishers do not necessarily have PayPal mailing lists. I have neither a PayPal nor eBay account, and I get plenty of phishing spams for both companies. So the phishers are just using regular spam lists and hoping to hit PayPal and eBay customers. Bruce Pokras Blazing Dawn Software www.blazingdawn.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
Dennis Brown wrote: I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal emails and sites! There may or may not be a cause-and-effect relationship there. After all, phishing is an attempt to get account info from someone -- if you're already a PayPal customer and PayPal were doing the phishing, they'd just be working overtime to get info they already have. You could test this theory by using a complex semi-random email address that's not published anywhere else. But I suspect such a test will turn out negative. Not that I have enough experience with PayPal to vouch for them, but simply that PayPal phishing their own customers for info just doesn't make sense. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal -- those guys pushing the envelope
--- Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PayPal phishing their own customers for info just doesn't make sense. those guys are always pushing the envelope refered to the bad guys in Romania or wherever. the range of responses was VERY informative. btw, spellcheck shows Gascony and Goatskin. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
But one will never know whether it was coincidence or not unless one uses a special email address for Paypal transactions. I have never gotten a 'phishing' email from anyone using the special email address I created. This is highly recommended if you can have multiple addresses or aliases on your email account. I just used my Paypal for a transaction yesterday after a long period of not using it. Today I have been Phished twice by phony Paypal emails and sites! Dennis -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Phishy Paypal
--- Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But one will never know whether it was coincidence or not unless one uses a special email address for Paypal transactions. I have never gotten a 'phishing' email from anyone using the special email address I created. This is highly recommended if you can have multiple addresses or aliases on your email account. tanks for duh tip. i do have a special bank account that i only load prior to a purchase. i also keep a small amount in PayPal for convenience. Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution