Re: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Lynch,

Le 6 déc. 05 à 19:22, Lynch, Jonathan a écrit :


Ah yes...

One of those little minor things that actually makes it work!


Does not matter: you got the trick!
Bravo :-)

Best Regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

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RE: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Ah yes...

One of those little minor things that actually makes it work!


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Chatonet
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:18 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: custom password dialogue

Hi Lynch,

Would not you prefer:

On rawkeydown
   Send hideMyKeys to me in 0 seconds
   pass rawkeydown
End rawkeydown

on hideMyKeys
 lock messages
 lock screen
 repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
 if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
 set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
 end if
 end repeat
 unlock messages
 --pass keyUp
end hideMyKeys

Works perfectly.
Good trick :-)

Best Regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 6 déc. 05 à 18:52, Lynch, Jonathan a écrit :

> on hideMyKeys
> -- enable masking of password during entry
> lock messages
> lock screen
> repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
> if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
> set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
> end if
> end repeat
> unlock messages
> pass keyUp
> end hideMyKeys


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RE: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Don't know if you saw my other post - this is easy to fix, if you want
to do so:

On rawkeydown
  Send hideMyKeys to me in 0 seconds
End rawkeydown

on hideMyKeys
-- enable masking of password during entry
lock messages
lock screen
repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
end if
end repeat
unlock messages
end hideMyKeys

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
Marriott
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:13 PM
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: custom password dialogue

Yes a characteristic of this technique is that a letter typed appears
for 
the milliseconds between the keydown and the keyup event. Even on
Windows.

You can regard this as a serious security breach, or as an improvement
on 
usability (to ensure someone is typing what they think they are typing).

But it is very simple and I like how it looks/behaves.

"Eric Chatonet" wrote

> Would be a very elegant and "short coding" solution if I had not the
time 
> to read the letters that are typed (Mac OS)
> Then you have to use a rawKeyDown handler (or KeyDown + deleteKey)
and it 
> becomes another story...
> But the idea is very good: completely cross-platform :-)




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Re: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Lynch,

Would not you prefer:

On rawkeydown
  Send hideMyKeys to me in 0 seconds
  pass rawkeydown
End rawkeydown

on hideMyKeys
lock messages
lock screen
repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
end if
end repeat
unlock messages
--pass keyUp
end hideMyKeys

Works perfectly.
Good trick :-)

Best Regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 6 déc. 05 à 18:52, Lynch, Jonathan a écrit :


on hideMyKeys
-- enable masking of password during entry
lock messages
lock screen
repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
end if
end repeat
unlock messages
pass keyUp
end hideMyKeys



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Re: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Bill Marriott
Yes a characteristic of this technique is that a letter typed appears for 
the milliseconds between the keydown and the keyup event. Even on Windows.

You can regard this as a serious security breach, or as an improvement on 
usability (to ensure someone is typing what they think they are typing).

But it is very simple and I like how it looks/behaves.

"Eric Chatonet" wrote

> Would be a very elegant and "short coding" solution if I had not the  time 
> to read the letters that are typed (Mac OS)
> Then you have to use a rawKeyDown handler (or KeyDown + deleteKey)  and it 
> becomes another story...
> But the idea is very good: completely cross-platform :-)




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RE: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
This is an easy problem to work around...
The following method will activate just as soon as the character is placed, and 
before any keyup handler is executed.

Just do this:
On rawkeydown
  Send hideMyKeys to me in 0 seconds
End rawkeydown

on hideMyKeys
-- enable masking of password during entry
lock messages
lock screen
repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
end if
end repeat
unlock messages
pass keyUp
end hideMyKeys


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Chatonet
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:37 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: custom password dialogue

Hi Bill,

Would be a very elegant and "short coding" solution if I had not the  
time to read the letters that are typed (Mac OS)
Then you have to use a rawKeyDown handler (or KeyDown + deleteKey)  
and it becomes another story...
But the idea is very good: completely cross-platform :-)

Best Regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 6 déc. 05 à 18:13, Bill Marriott a écrit :

> You'll need to make your own window, as the dialog presented by "ask
> password" is not customizable beyond the prompt text. But, there is no
> built-in "Password" style for fields.
>
> Here is what I thought was a very simple solution to that:
>
> 1) Include a tiny image (such as a 10x10 pixel padlock) in your  
> stack. I
> named mine "tinyPadlock."
>
> 2) Attach this script to the field used for password entry:
>
> on keyUp
> -- enable masking of password during entry
> lock messages
> lock screen
> repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
> if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
> set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
> end if
> end repeat
> unlock messages
> pass keyUp
> end keyUp
>
> This handles whatever someone might do in the field, masks their  
> input, and
> still allows you to access the content of the field as if the password
> masking was not used.
>
> I put a small sample file up on Rev Online so you can see how it  
> works.
>
> User: MerryOtter
> Stack: Easy Passwords


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RE: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Very clever...

I did this with something much more complicated - storing the test in a
custom property as it is typed. Your way is better.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
Marriott
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:13 PM
To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: custom password dialogue

Eric,

You'll need to make your own window, as the dialog presented by "ask 
password" is not customizable beyond the prompt text. But, there is no 
built-in "Password" style for fields.

Here is what I thought was a very simple solution to that:

1) Include a tiny image (such as a 10x10 pixel padlock) in your stack. I

named mine "tinyPadlock."

2) Attach this script to the field used for password entry:

on keyUp
-- enable masking of password during entry
lock messages
lock screen
repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
end if
end repeat
unlock messages
pass keyUp
end keyUp

This handles whatever someone might do in the field, masks their input,
and 
still allows you to access the content of the field as if the password 
masking was not used.

I put a small sample file up on Rev Online so you can see how it works.

User: MerryOtter
Stack: Easy Passwords

Bill



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Re: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Bill,

Would be a very elegant and "short coding" solution if I had not the  
time to read the letters that are typed (Mac OS)
Then you have to use a rawKeyDown handler (or KeyDown + deleteKey)  
and it becomes another story...

But the idea is very good: completely cross-platform :-)

Best Regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 6 déc. 05 à 18:13, Bill Marriott a écrit :


You'll need to make your own window, as the dialog presented by "ask
password" is not customizable beyond the prompt text. But, there is no
built-in "Password" style for fields.

Here is what I thought was a very simple solution to that:

1) Include a tiny image (such as a 10x10 pixel padlock) in your  
stack. I

named mine "tinyPadlock."

2) Attach this script to the field used for password entry:

on keyUp
-- enable masking of password during entry
lock messages
lock screen
repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
end if
end repeat
unlock messages
pass keyUp
end keyUp

This handles whatever someone might do in the field, masks their  
input, and

still allows you to access the content of the field as if the password
masking was not used.

I put a small sample file up on Rev Online so you can see how it  
works.


User: MerryOtter
Stack: Easy Passwords



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Re: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Bill Marriott
Eric,

You'll need to make your own window, as the dialog presented by "ask 
password" is not customizable beyond the prompt text. But, there is no 
built-in "Password" style for fields.

Here is what I thought was a very simple solution to that:

1) Include a tiny image (such as a 10x10 pixel padlock) in your stack. I 
named mine "tinyPadlock."

2) Attach this script to the field used for password entry:

on keyUp
-- enable masking of password during entry
lock messages
lock screen
repeat with i = 1 to the number of characters in me
if the imagesource of char i of me is not "tinyPadlock" then
set the imagesource char i of me to "tinyPadlock"
end if
end repeat
unlock messages
pass keyUp
end keyUp

This handles whatever someone might do in the field, masks their input, and 
still allows you to access the content of the field as if the password 
masking was not used.

I put a small sample file up on Rev Online so you can see how it works.

User: MerryOtter
Stack: Easy Passwords

Bill



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Re: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Eric Chatonet

Hi Anthony,

My "How to Ask for a Password" tutorial might help you. You will  
access it thought "Tutorials Picker" a free plugin that interfaces  
with the So Smart Software website in order to display all available  
tutorials directly from the web.

You will find it by going to http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/.
It shows how to ask for a password in an ordinary field by displaying  
asterisks.

Usually, the job is done using 2 fields, one of which is hidden.
Here a custom property stored in the single field is used as a  
substitute for the usual 2nd hidden field.


Best Regards from Paris,

Eric Chatonet.

Le 2 déc. 05 à 19:45, Anthony Weinfield a écrit :

Is there someway to build a password dialogue box that contains  
more than

the password field. For example, I would like a dialogue to display or
capture the userid and the password. The "ask password" function only
captures the password.



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Re: custom password dialogue

2005-12-06 Thread Andre Garzia


On Dec 2, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Anthony Weinfield wrote:

Is there someway to build a password dialogue box that contains  
more than

the password field. For example, I would like a dialogue to display or
capture the userid and the password. The "ask password" function only
captures the password.



use a substack, code your fields and use or the modal command or if  
you're on a mac os x machine use ask as sheet. :-)


just code your field to display * but trap the keys.

cheers
andre



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