Re: [ANN] A Primer on Message Mechanics--you know, 'send'

2003-08-21 Thread Alex Rice
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 07:30  PM, Dar Scott wrote:
You can find "A Primer on Message Mechanics" here:

   
Thanks Dar this is really a good resource. Folks, it has not only 
bouncing-ball animations of the message path, but also message 
mechanics limericks! :-)

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Re: [ANN] A Primer on Message Mechanics--you know, 'send'

2003-08-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dar Scott wrote:

>> what does [ANN] mean (and it please you)?
> 
> I'm not sure.  I think Ann collects some of these things.

She does indeed.  On some lists I subscribe to the ANN to non-ANN ratio is
quite staggering.  Some users have a mail filter to move those to a special
folder.

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Re: [ANN] A Primer on Message Mechanics--you know, 'send'

2003-08-19 Thread Alex Rice
On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 04:01  PM, Dar Scott wrote:
I included it because I wanted to be in the "in" crowd and use all the 
cool subject labels that those in the "in" crowd use.
I think it's good list etiquette, kind of like using [OT] for off-topic 
posts. Also it's interesting to search the list archives for [ANN] to 
see what kind of things people are releasing built with Revolution.

I suppose one could use [EGO], [VAN] or in some cases [$] instead :-)

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Re: [ANN] A Primer on Message Mechanics--you know, 'send'

2003-08-19 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 03:42 PM, erik hansen wrote:

what does [ANN] mean (and it please you)?
I'm not sure.  I think Ann collects some of these things.

I think it means announcement and is intended as a warning that the 
material is not really a question but might even be somewhat 
self-serving, vain or commercial.

I included it because I wanted to be in the "in" crowd and use all the 
cool subject labels that those in the "in" crowd use.

Maybe next time I'll try [NEW] or [XYZZY] and see what happens.

Dar Scott


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Re: [ANN] A Primer on Message Mechanics--you know, 'send'

2003-08-19 Thread Dar Scott
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 08:33 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:

I look forward to studying the message primer in detail- since I 
generally write scripts using the path-of-least-resistance (easiest to 
fathom but often inefficient).
My attempt is to introduce a style that will give you both.

However, I have learned that what I consider "simple" others do not.  
For example, less lines of code is not always simpler to me.  I like to 
break things down into pieces that I can mentally put aside as done, 
even into handlers or other objects, and then only consider their 
interface in building bigger things.  If one is into that kind of 
thinking, the primer will be a good place to get into "messages".  I 
deviated a little for pedagogical reasons, but that theme should be 
there.

Thank you, Dar!
You are quite welcome.

Dar Scott

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Re: [ANN] A Primer on Message Mechanics--you know, 'send'

2003-08-19 Thread Dar Scott
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 08:07 PM, Andre Garzia wrote:

Thank you, thank you very much for your primer it's very fun and i 
learned much!
Thanks!  I had fun making it.  (And I can find my own script examples 
faster now.)

Fun and learned much.  Those are just the right words for me to hear.

I'll also download the primer primer so that i can make primers myself.
The current "A Simple Primer Primer" does not adjust font properties 
for platforms and uses design-time script-callout adjustments instead 
of runtime adjustments.

.. we could really help the community with approaches like this
Though this was fun, it did take a while, and I wouldn't want making 
primers to become a burden for folks.  People can take their time or 
use a different style.

You might have noticed that the last third is a little weak and I 
completely ignored the interaction with 'wait'.  Maybe that is right 
for a primer, but it is mostly because I wanted to get it out the door.

Dar Scott



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Re: [ANN] A Primer on Message Mechanics--you know, 'send'

2003-08-18 Thread Andre Garzia
Hi Dar,

Thank you, thank you very much for your primer it's very fun and i 
learned much! I'll also download the primer primer so that i can 
make primers myself... we could really help the community with 
approaches like this

Thanks you again for the very good job
Andre
On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 10:30  PM, Dar Scott wrote:

I very much appreciate advice from folks on the list.  Here is a 
partial attempt to return the favor.

I am making available to all a stack I call "A Primer on Message 
Mechanics".  It is an introduction to the use of send, cancel and 
pendingMessages.

It is a little long, but it does start at basics and builds up from 
those.  It provides a peek into my style, but I think it is general 
enough that you can develop your own style.  Thumb through it a few 
coffee breaks and download breaks and you should get a feel for how to 
use send.  It does not walk you through building any examples, but it 
does have lots of examples, each building on concepts from previous 
pages and previous examples.

It is essentially an 88 page booklet with live examples and demos.

I created this on OS X and checked it out on Windows XP and Mac OS 9.  
It is designed to be used in the Revolution environment, but I see no 
reason why a standalone cannot be built from it--I just haven't tried 
it yet.  I have heard that it crashes on Windows ME, but it seems to 
work on two other versions of Windows--watch out.  I have no idea how 
useful this will be to MC folks.

Many of the examples are flashing indicators and some of those use 
red.  If this might be a health problem for you, send me a note before 
getting the stack.

If you are new to send and get bogged down, I would appreciate it if 
you would try to articulate where I lost you--if you have time and 
feel so inclined.  Sometimes I get to thinking something is obvious 
and forget all I had to go through to learn it.

If you are an expert in send, please let me know where I have lied.

All, I welcome comment on my style and especially where I have failed 
to treat the user with respect.  I think there are still many spelling 
errors and I welcome comments on those.  I welcome comment on any > goof.

I apologize for saying publicly, "It is coming!" and then taking so 
long to get it out.  I risked it being a little belabored to try to 
cover all those little preliminary concepts as well as a few advanced 
'gotchas'.

You can find "A Primer on Message Mechanics" here:

   

Enjoy!

Dar Scott

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