Re: [ANN] I have a confession...
Actually, hibernation mode is a part of operating systems power management feature. Windows has had it for a while, and it looks like Linux does too, but only within the last year has it become reliable. :-) Regards, Todd On Mar 19, 2009, at 2:52 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jim Sims wrote: This tip is very helpful! Some nice applescript on that web page. It looks like Todd has provided the most brilliant solution; well for recent equipment anyway running OS X. The beauty is that pmset has options for Desktops as well. The link Todd gave infers that there may be a Windows solution but it is just more complex. The fact that pmset only dates back to 2006 and is Darwin specific suggest the Linux boys are out of luck here too. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Jim Sims wrote: > > This tip is very helpful! Some nice applescript on that web page. > It looks like Todd has provided the most brilliant solution; well for recent equipment anyway running OS X. The beauty is that pmset has options for Desktops as well. The link Todd gave infers that there may be a Windows solution but it is just more complex. The fact that pmset only dates back to 2006 and is Darwin specific suggest the Linux boys are out of luck here too. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Mar 19, 2009, at 1:12 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: http://macscripter.net/viewtopic.php?id=17554 My initial thoughts would be to work with the listed Documents, not Applications. Have the user set the Recent Document to a reasonable number. By sorting chronologically you should be able to remove any files that were opened the day previously, unfortunately if it's set to 20 and he opens 20 files and closes 10 of them on the same day, when he starts again it's going to open all 20 :-( This tip is very helpful! Some nice applescript on that web page. By getting the list open apps and then running the following script (substituting app names from my list of open apps) I can get currently open file names (no paths). I can run the list of current files with one of the scripts on that web page you refer to and also get the pathways to those files. tell application "System Events" get name of every window of application process "Preview" end tell This works great for Recent Items but falls down when trying to get some apps & files, such as Microsoft Word docs. They use a different system. Thanks! sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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The simplest solution to this problem would be just make the machine hibernate instead of sleep. Here is the command: sudo pmset -b hibernatemode 1 When on battery power and the sleep command is issued, the laptop will write the memory to disk and then powerdown the machine. I tested it on my 1st gen. Macbook Pro, and it worked as advertised. man pmset in the Terminal will give you the nitty gritty details about the command, but I found an article online that explains it nicely: http://www.pengekcs.com/2007/09/08/mac-os-x-hibernate-sleep-mode/ Regards, Todd On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Todd Higgins wrote: Does you friend have a newer Mac (Powerbook G4 SD and newer)? If so, I would tell him to just put it to sleep. By default the contents of RAM is written to a disk image. Details on Safe Sleep can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1757 Yeah, this is a way cool feature. Sleep your MacBook, pull the battery out (unlucky for the new MBP 17" owners) for a second or two and then pop it back in. Next time you power up your MB it's right back where you left it. Probably not a long term recommended solution, but I've appreciated this feature way too many times than I should have. Towards a less brutal solution, on OS X, you might think about looking into ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.recentitems.plist Unfortunately whilst this gives the name of the file in plain English, the path is given in some kind of code which fortunately can be decoded using AppleScript. Look here for some hints how to sort the list chronologically: http://macscripter.net/viewtopic.php?id=17554 My initial thoughts would be to work with the listed Documents, not Applications. Have the user set the Recent Document to a reasonable number. By sorting chronologically you should be able to remove any files that were opened the day previously, unfortunately if it's set to 20 and he opens 20 files and closes 10 of them on the same day, when he starts again it's going to open all 20 :-( HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:45 AM, Todd Higgins wrote: > Does you friend have a newer Mac (Powerbook G4 SD and newer)? If so, I > would tell him to just put it to sleep. By default the contents of RAM is > written to a disk image. Details on Safe Sleep can be found here: > > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1757 > Yeah, this is a way cool feature. Sleep your MacBook, pull the battery out (unlucky for the new MBP 17" owners) for a second or two and then pop it back in. Next time you power up your MB it's right back where you left it. Probably not a long term recommended solution, but I've appreciated this feature way too many times than I should have. Towards a less brutal solution, on OS X, you might think about looking into ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.recentitems.plist Unfortunately whilst this gives the name of the file in plain English, the path is given in some kind of code which fortunately can be decoded using AppleScript. Look here for some hints how to sort the list chronologically: http://macscripter.net/viewtopic.php?id=17554 My initial thoughts would be to work with the listed Documents, not Applications. Have the user set the Recent Document to a reasonable number. By sorting chronologically you should be able to remove any files that were opened the day previously, unfortunately if it's set to 20 and he opens 20 files and closes 10 of them on the same day, when he starts again it's going to open all 20 :-( HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Does you friend have a newer Mac (Powerbook G4 SD and newer)? If so, I would tell him to just put it to sleep. By default the contents of RAM is written to a disk image. Details on Safe Sleep can be found here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1757 You can even enable it on slighter older machines. Here is a write up: http://www.mariospina.com/braindump/archives/2005/11/13/how_to_safe_sleep_hibernate_your_mac.php If he still insists, maybe you can force the hibernate function to occur at Shutdown as well. Regards, Todd On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Jim Sims wrote: On Mar 18, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: then again I doubt that my kind of behaviour is normal. Sounds familiar :-) People been saying that about me for years now ;-) sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Bernard Devlin wrote: then again I doubt that my kind of behaviour is normal. Sounds familiar :-) People been saying that about me for years now ;-) sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I don't know how commercially viable such an application is, but circa 1992 OS/2 had this feature built into the GUI, and perhaps in a slightly different (more sophisticated?) way. One just selected a property on a folder to make the folder a "work-area folder". From then on whenever that folder was opened all the documents in the folder were opened in their respective (associated applications). When one closed the folder, all the documents and (if those documents were the only ones that opened the application) then the application quit too. I guess one could script that in OS X using automator. Like some of the others that responded I haven't felt a need for the app you're describing as I don't restart laptops for days (or even weeks) on end. I particularly like the hibernation feature in Windows. I often don't install any updates until I've decided I want the laptop to reboot. But then again I doubt that my kind of behaviour is normal. Bernard On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jim Sims wrote: > I have a confession to make. > > My question "I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list > usually have loaded during their work day?" was really market research. I > wanted to find out how many apps and files people had opened as they work. > > About three weeks ago a busy photographer friend (76 books launched and 5 > in the pipeline) complained to me that OS X didn't have any way to reload > apps & files that are open when he quits. He said he wanted something like > 'Time Machine' but in an application that would load that one set of files > and applications. > > > I suggested he use Sleep but as he travels a lot he wants to shut the Mac > off completely. So, three weeks later of spare time fiddling I have a beta > at: > > http://www.ezpzapps.com/AppBoot/ > > Rev enables some fast development but this List is like having your own Rev > Genius Bar. Thanks! > > sims > > s...@ezpzapps.com > Skype: sims.jim > iChat: techietours > __ > Opportunity by Design > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Jim, "The customer is always right." ;-) Best wishes. Paul Looney On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Jim Sims wrote: On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Paul Looney wrote: I agree Colin, Some years ago I was working on a document in Nashville, Tennessee. I closed the lid on the PowerBook, drove 2,000 miles west (visiting customers on the way), did not open the PowerBook for almost a week. When I opened the lid in Los Angeles, the cursor was flashing where I'd left it in Nashville. With a modestly charged battery, sleep should be all one needs. Paul Looney That was also my response to the guy that requested I make such an app for him. He won't do Sleep mode if he is out of the house. Sophisticated guy, has 76 books launched (photos and Indesign work) but was insistent. If I were to make this commercially available I wouldn't need too many of guys like him though. We'll see what happens. sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Paul Looney wrote: I agree Colin, Some years ago I was working on a document in Nashville, Tennessee. I closed the lid on the PowerBook, drove 2,000 miles west (visiting customers on the way), did not open the PowerBook for almost a week. When I opened the lid in Los Angeles, the cursor was flashing where I'd left it in Nashville. With a modestly charged battery, sleep should be all one needs. Paul Looney That was also my response to the guy that requested I make such an app for him. He won't do Sleep mode if he is out of the house. Sophisticated guy, has 76 books launched (photos and Indesign work) but was insistent. If I were to make this commercially available I wouldn't need too many of guys like him though. We'll see what happens. sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I agree Colin, Some years ago I was working on a document in Nashville, Tennessee. I closed the lid on the PowerBook, drove 2,000 miles west (visiting customers on the way), did not open the PowerBook for almost a week. When I opened the lid in Los Angeles, the cursor was flashing where I'd left it in Nashville. With a modestly charged battery, sleep should be all one needs. Paul Looney On Mar 18, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Jim Ault wrote: but no other levels of automatic restore that I can think of. My first thought would be a set of AppleScripts using Automator (built in to OSX), then have a MyScripts menu to trigger 'save configuration' or just trap events and ask for user input where necessary. I'm skeptical that anyone would need to shut down the computer and reopen it with all the same apps and documents open. Using Sleep does that well enough for commuting (even for transatlantic flights), so most times you would like to carry on exactly where you left off you can do that. More often that not though I will soon open Safari, Mail, and iChat, so I do use an Automator app to do that for me. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Jim Ault wrote: but no other levels of automatic restore that I can think of. My first thought would be a set of AppleScripts using Automator (built in to OSX), then have a MyScripts menu to trigger 'save configuration' or just trap events and ask for user input where necessary. I'm skeptical that anyone would need to shut down the computer and reopen it with all the same apps and documents open. Using Sleep does that well enough for commuting (even for transatlantic flights), so most times you would like to carry on exactly where you left off you can do that. More often that not though I will soon open Safari, Mail, and iChat, so I do use an Automator app to do that for me. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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If using ... Firefox, get the add in "Session Manager" - indispensable BBEdit, setup project windows, and it remembers all the open docs/ windows, and their positions across 3 monitors. Photoshop, I use an Applescript to record open images, then reopen the list with a double click on an app. Excel, I just use the Recent menu but no other levels of automatic restore that I can think of. My first thought would be a set of AppleScripts using Automator (built in to OSX), then have a MyScripts menu to trigger 'save configuration' or just trap events and ask for user input where necessary. Adding the use of System Events probably means you could control most any app that runs on the Mac. Further, you could store configuration files that would mean 'close all apps', 'launch config ImageWork', 'close all apps', 'relaunch config EmailOnly', 'relaunch config WebResearchExcel'. Thus you would have a routine that would allow the user to 'update' any of the config files. This would also allow 'project' configuration files to be managed. My own needs tend to evolve and be rather eclectic, so this style does not really work for me, but there are many times I have been tempted to write some of this. Using a Rev interface, you could call the various AppleScripts (VB in Windows) to save.restore.delete.reset configuration files. Windows product for $80 http://download.cnet.com/Action-Process-Automator/3000-2248_4-10030475.html OSX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automator_(software) http://automator.us/leopard/index.html Jim Ault Las Vegas On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Jim Sims wrote: I have a confession to make. My question "I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list usually have loaded during their work day?" was really market research. I wanted to find out how many apps and files people had opened as they work. About three weeks ago a busy photographer friend (76 books launched and 5 in the pipeline) complained to me that OS X didn't have any way to reload apps & files that are open when he quits. He said he wanted something like 'Time Machine' but in an application that would load that one set of files and applications. I suggested he use Sleep but as he travels a lot he wants to shut the Mac off completely. So, three weeks later of spare time fiddling I have a beta at: http://www.ezpzapps.com/AppBoot/ Rev enables some fast development but this List is like having your own Rev Genius Bar. Thanks! sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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SIMS, You mean, sorta, kinda, like the Safari version of History -> Reopen All Windows From Last Session? I SO love that feature! My MP keeps "losing" its airport card when I have, like, nearly a dozen open search windows going... Judy http://revined.blogspot.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Jim Sims wrote: > I have a confession to make. > > My question "I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list > usually have loaded during their work day?" was really market research. I > wanted to find out how many apps and files people had opened as they work. > > About three weeks ago a busy photographer friend (76 books launched and 5 > in the pipeline) complained to me that OS X didn't have any way to reload > apps & files that are open when he quits. He said he wanted something like > 'Time Machine' but in an application that would load that one set of files > and applications. > > > I suggested he use Sleep but as he travels a lot he wants to shut the Mac > off completely. So, three weeks later of spare time fiddling I have a beta > at: > > http://www.ezpzapps.com/AppBoot/ > > Rev enables some fast development but this List is like having your own Rev > Genius Bar. Thanks! > > sims > > s...@ezpzapps.com > Skype: sims.jim > iChat: techietours > __ > Opportunity by Design > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Jim - nice idea! I had a look but couldn't get any open files to show up in the file list (is this supposed to be an editable field?). How does this bit work? Terry... On 18/03/09 7:51 PM, "Jim Sims" wrote: > I have a confession to make. > > My question "I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list > usually have loaded during their work day?" was really market > research. I wanted to find out how many apps and files people had > opened as they work. > > About three weeks ago a busy photographer friend (76 books launched > and 5 in the pipeline) complained to me that OS X didn't have any way > to reload apps & files that are open when he quits. He said he wanted > something like 'Time Machine' but in an application that would load > that one set of files and applications. > > > I suggested he use Sleep but as he travels a lot he wants to shut > the Mac off completely. So, three weeks later of spare time fiddling I > have a beta at: > > http://www.ezpzapps.com/AppBoot/ > > Rev enables some fast development but this List is like having your > own Rev Genius Bar. Thanks! > > sims > > s...@ezpzapps.com > Skype: sims.jim > iChat: techietours > __ > Opportunity by Design > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Miles away... Although I would assume that even if you 'came clean' in the first instance you'd also get replies, probably even more so. Cheers, Luis. On 18 Mar 2009, at 08:51, Jim Sims wrote: I have a confession to make. My question "I'm curious about how many apps the people on this list usually have loaded during their work day?" was really market research. I wanted to find out how many apps and files people had opened as they work. About three weeks ago a busy photographer friend (76 books launched and 5 in the pipeline) complained to me that OS X didn't have any way to reload apps & files that are open when he quits. He said he wanted something like 'Time Machine' but in an application that would load that one set of files and applications. I suggested he use Sleep but as he travels a lot he wants to shut the Mac off completely. So, three weeks later of spare time fiddling I have a beta at: http://www.ezpzapps.com/AppBoot/ Rev enables some fast development but this List is like having your own Rev Genius Bar. Thanks! sims s...@ezpzapps.com Skype: sims.jim iChat: techietours __ Opportunity by Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
