Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread René Micout
Thank you Sarah !
René

Le 9 janv. 2010 à 01:04, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :

> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson
>  wrote:
>> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks like
>> a dog's dinner . . .
>> 
>> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:
>> 
>> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]
>> 
>> with this:
>> 
>> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html
> 
> 
> I guess my main problem with the original is that there is no overall
> theme. Links are images of very different sizes and transparencies, so
> it isn't obvious which are links.
> The new one looks more consistent, which will make it easier to navigate.
> 
> But for people like me who are not into design, it is often easier to
> start with a CSS template and adapt that to your needs.
> http://www.freecsstemplates.org/ is one good source of such things and
> it allows you to build a polished site with remarkably little effort.
> Using CSS also makes it much easier to make sure all the pages on the
> site have the same formatting, and changes are site-wide for even
> easier editing.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sarah
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson
 wrote:
> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks
like
> a dog's dinner . . .
>
> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:
>
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]
>
> with this:
>
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html

Like Sarah said:
> But for people like me who are not into design, it is often easier to
> start with a CSS template and adapt that to your needs.

Templates are wonderful!  I have recently started a site for my robotics
hobby using a FREE hosting service. I know Richmond likes freebies and I do
too. Take a look at my first go at a website using the online site builder
(also free).  http://www.ellerrobotics.webege.com/

~Roger Eller  


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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson
 wrote:
> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks like
> a dog's dinner . . .
>
> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:
>
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]
>
> with this:
>
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html


I guess my main problem with the original is that there is no overall
theme. Links are images of very different sizes and transparencies, so
it isn't obvious which are links.
The new one looks more consistent, which will make it easier to navigate.

But for people like me who are not into design, it is often easier to
start with a CSS template and adapt that to your needs.
http://www.freecsstemplates.org/ is one good source of such things and
it allows you to build a polished site with remarkably little effort.
Using CSS also makes it much easier to make sure all the pages on the
site have the same formatting, and changes are site-wide for even
easier editing.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Richmond,

You are Scott, so i expected to find your familiar plaid
design in your website. ;-)

http://www.tartanregister.gov.uk/qResults.aspx?searchString=Mathewson

When time permits, i will create a stack to create
tartan designs. These designs show how you could create
nice looking patterns using simple elements... a great example
of economy of means:

http://www.bustler.net/index.php/event/economy_of_means_a_brief_history_of_doing_more_with_less/

Scottis were (Still are?) famous for their acute sense of economy... :-)

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4850359,00.html

So, Richmond... Keep your design simple, but elegant.

Have a great good 2010!

alejandro
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Michael Kann
For all the comparative linguists out there: in our part of the world we would 
call the first website "a dog's breakfast." 

Besides the animated flags, everything looks fine and dandy. Those flags have 
to go.

 

--- On Fri, 1/8/10, Klaus on-rev  wrote:

> From: Klaus on-rev 
> Subject: Re: [OT] Crappy website
> To: "How to use Revolution" 
> Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:27 PM
> Hi Luis,
> 
> Am 08.01.2010 um 18:21 schrieb Luis:
> 
> > My eyes! My eyes!
> 
> :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
> 
> > On 8 Jan 2010, at 15:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> >> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me
> that my website looks like
> >> a dog's dinner . . .
> >> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing
> this:
> >> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html 
> [dog's dinner]
> >> ...
> >> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
> 
> Best
> 
> Klaus
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Klaus on-rev
Hi Luis,

Am 08.01.2010 um 18:21 schrieb Luis:

> My eyes! My eyes!

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

> On 8 Jan 2010, at 15:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks like
>> a dog's dinner . . .
>> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:
>> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]
>> ...
>> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson

Best

Klaus

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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Jacques Hausser
Hi Richmond,

The old website is maybe a dog's dinner, but a rather appetizing one. The new 
one is terribly calvinist and my cat was not specially appealed...
I would at least soften it, these grey borders look like prison's walls seen 
from above.
And to milden it, put somewhere an illustrated and well visible logo 
symbolizing your interests - the problem is probably that you have too many of 
them ;).
I agree with René: why not Ganesh-with-a-laptop ? Good introduction to 
DevaWriter !

Sicerely

Jacques

Le 8 janv. 2010 à 16:40, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks like
> a dog's dinner . . .
> 
> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]
> 
> with this:
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html
> 
> [dummy, half-cooked, cat's lunch]
> 
> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Luis

My eyes! My eyes!

On 8 Jan 2010, at 15:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website  
looks like

a dog's dinner . . .

Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]

with this:

http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html

[dummy, half-cooked, cat's lunch]

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Robert Man

I disagree! Find the first, naive... much more alive than the 2nd polished.

IN the end, i'd really say... 
a) is it a site to SEDUCE people? commercial.. 
b) or is it a site to EXPRESS yourself, and just GIVE ACCESS to your
pupils.. 

if a then, sure.. neither sites will do the job.. 
but, as I suspect it is b) then.. just don't bother tand do whatever PLEASES
YOU
(and let your sister do her site as she wishes i'd say!!! )

Have fun.. 

p.s; if you want a basic CMS site, i've developped one from andre garzia
basic cms sample on on-rev in april, and this I found was a very good base.


Rick Harrison wrote:
> 
> Hi Richmond,
> 
> I hate to have to say it, but your sister is probably correct.
> 
> 

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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi Richmond,

I hate to have to say it, but your sister is probably correct.

I think the rather raw naked brain at the very bottom almost
made me loose my breakfast, which is then something a
dog might consider for dinner.  Blah!

The second example is a much cleaner, and organized start.

Unfortunately in our age of the web now, everything has to have
that graphic artist professional polished brush look or no one takes
one's website seriously.  I wish this was not the case myself as it
has raised the cost of website development astronomically for
everyone.

Good luck with your revisions, and remember that you can't
please all of the people all of the time.  There will always be
some critics out there who will say they don't like your site no
matter how well polished it is.

Cheers,

Rick

On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks like
> a dog's dinner . . .
> 
> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]
> 
> with this:
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html
> 
> [dummy, half-cooked, cat's lunch]
> 
> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
> ---
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/dwriter.html
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread Colin Holgate
Both sites are somewhat plain. Have you thought about using a tool that comes 
with nice design templates, like iWeb for 
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Re: [OT] Crappy website

2010-01-08 Thread René Micout
Hello Richmond !
For me the second one is better (the principle) but with Ganesh !! :-)
Bons souvenirs de Paris
René

Le 8 janv. 2010 à 16:40, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

> My sister (who knows about these things) tells me that my website looks like
> a dog's dinner . . .
> 
> Would be very grateful for any feedback comparing this:
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/default.html  [dog's dinner]
> 
> with this:
> 
> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/home.html
> 
> [dummy, half-cooked, cat's lunch]
> 
> sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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> http://andregarzia.on-rev.com/richmond/dwriter.html
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