Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Gotta love reframes! Cheers, Luis. On 2 Feb 2009, at 01:03, Randall Reetz wrote: Sorry. I love this stuff. Do you remember the indiana jones scene where the ninja guy is comming at him with swinging knives... And he just pulls out a gun and shoots him? That is what great ideas do. -Original Message- From: Luis l...@anachreon.co.uk To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter No wonder I wake up with a headache. Cheers, Luis. Randall Reetz wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Randall- Monday, February 2, 2009, 10:00:44 AM, you wrote: This is the AI stuff from the Palm guy... correct? I have looked at this. And yes, Jff Hawkins (co-author of On Intelligence) gets it! A lot of cognitive science at work here. And Bill Atkinson is on board as well. He bent my ear about Numenta for half an hour straight a while back. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
This is the AI stuff from the Palm guy... correct? I have looked at this. And yes, Jff Hawkins (co-author of On Intelligence) gets it! Compression in this context means the reduction towards general or prototypical forms that are then stored with modifiers that enumerate the delta between a specific incarnation and that prototype. Randall On Feb 1, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Randall- Sunday, February 1, 2009, 12:40:58 PM, you wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. Sounds like you may be interested in what Numenta's up to... www.numenta.com -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...). Fractalius plugin for photoshop extracts hidden fractal texture of an image. The effect is really cl! http://www.redfieldplugins.com/filterFractalius.htm Now I wonder what is the algorithm behind this... Any ideas ;-)? Best wishes Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
On Feb 1, 2009, at 2:42 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? Yes, it's in their FAQ page, there are no plans to make Mac versions. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [ot] fractal graphic filter
The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Randall- Sunday, February 1, 2009, 12:40:58 PM, you wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. Sounds like you may be interested in what Numenta's up to... www.numenta.com -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter
No wonder I wake up with a headache. Cheers, Luis. Randall Reetz wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [ot] fractal graphic filter
Sorry. I love this stuff. Do you remember the indiana jones scene where the ninja guy is comming at him with swinging knives... And he just pulls out a gun and shoots him? That is what great ideas do. -Original Message- From: Luis l...@anachreon.co.uk To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter No wonder I wake up with a headache. Cheers, Luis. Randall Reetz wrote: The problem with fractal compression is that it like all compression schemes is usually applied indiscriminately to a whole file. A scheme that works best for some data doesnt always work best for others. The real breakthrough will involve an entropy metric that can be used to self optimize a scheme to regions and others other other regions... Setting up a topograhic mapping of compressions as directed by the morphology of that data. Do that and you can selectively and accurately reduce an image (or any other data set) to more general terms. For instance, if a filter were able to extract obects (humans, plants, buildings, furnature, infrastructure, land use, animals, equipment) into semantic primitives, it sould describe and store reality the way our brains do while we sleep. Achieving million-to-one compression ratios. -Original Message- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: 2/1/2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [ot] fractal graphic filter I wonder if they're cross platform. If they didn't say, probably not. PC only? 2009/2/1 viktoras d. vikto...@ekoinf.net received this link from yet another list (chaos theory, fractals, etc...)___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
