Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
3. There is an issue in the AB where one cannot change the relative layers of controls in a group except when editing the group; however I can change the relative layers of a group and a non-grouped control at will. I was in whole-group selection mode. One newly created group overlapped the hidden field that is supposed to be topmost field. When I selected the field to send it on top, the send to top button never hilited! I did it manualy These kind of things shouldn't happen... No argument from me on that, Xavier. It seems to me the AB has problems dealing with newly-created controls immediately after a control is created. Often I can't see the new control in the AB's list of card controls until I select a different card and reselect the original card. Other times I can see an existing control in the list; but selecting it will not open its properties palette. But changing the selected card/stack and reselecting the original make those problems go away, and I have no problems with relayering existing controls groups so long as I edit a group before trying to change the layering of controls in the group. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The resizeStack message is a powerful thing, well worth working with directly. It gives you total control over layout with no ambiguity and less overhead. Agreed. Originating from MC, I took the habit to script resizing controls a la mano;-) -- Vous parlez français ? faites un tour sur le groupe francophone ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jetez un oeil sur RevoBlog http://revoblog.free.fr ! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
Maybe they were not lost. Read this post http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-Decembe r/026820.html Which, BTW, I don't think runrev ever responded to. Ken, do you know if this that particular bugzilla problem is fixed in the current setup? No, it is the same, Alex. My Bugs only returns NEW, ASSIGNED or REOPENED bugs. This is something we ought to do for the next update of Bugzilla, though, and something I can easily add to RevZilla (which I need to update to accommodate the new status and resolutions). Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
- It does take more time per bug. - Last time I spend 2 hours entering a nice description for just 3 bugs and all got lost. I spend that much time posting to this list every week. I'm sorry you lost 2 hours, but you did it as part of the process of getting your individual bug reports submitted. Not such a bad deal. NEVER AGAIN. Im doing this on my personal time and money investment and it's not worth my time or ROI. I know this is not the right thing to do but Im wasting enough time working around bugs that shouldn't be there. When these get solved, and the IDE is smooth I'll consider it... Then you should have evaluated the latest version of Rev before choosing it for a valuable project. It is not always wise to use the latest version of everything if your money is on the line. If you are so certain that the old Metacard IDE is better, use it. I sympathize with wasting time on your own penny. But in a community where many people spend hours every week contributing and helping and bug hunting, to sound off about your 2 hours in BugZilla and your 1 day slippage in releasing a stack, it rings very hollow with me. I'm sure in your Supercard and HC days, you lost a day somewhere when your stacks got corrupted, for example. Rev ain't perfect, but you can't shake a stick at it's productivity just because you found some geometry bugs. As for our enterprise license, I dare not put RR in our production network! It's that bad! Because the IDE has bugs? The engine is identical to MetaCard's. If geometry manager is your headache, maybe it's not ready for your needs. And maybe there are more workarounds. And maybe the bugs would be fixed by now if you hadn't been too stubborn to re-enter them in BugZilla a long time ago. There would be twice as many issues which I dont have in MC. It's been running so smoothly for the past 2 years that Scott has heard from me once (partly thanks to my own script editor)! ;) Then why don't you either stick with what was working, or actually help make Rev better in a constructive fashion? I feel like everyday is a battle to get things working in RR... I like the features but I dont appreciate it's quality. Then join the process of helping improve it. That's a pretty unique empowerment that you won't find with many major tools. If you don't have time to contribute to the community, why should it jump to support you above and beyond others? - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are all my fields and group resized correctly? NOT. I going to have to resize and reset all geometry again... If the GM annoys, choosing never to be annoyed again is an option that takes only one line per resized control. The resizeStack message is a powerful thing, well worth working with directly. It gives you total control over layout with no ambiguity and less overhead. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There would be twice as many issues which I dont have in MC. It's been running so smoothly for the past 2 years that Scott has heard from me once (partly thanks to my own script editor)! ;) I don't use much of either IDE. MC was unattractive and limited, so like you I wrote a lot of my own tools. When Rev came along it had more going on between the VM and me than I prefer, so I just kept using my stuff. So that's the part I don't get: the VM is powerful enough to support three IDEs and an unknown number of additional tools folks have crafted for themselves. We can pick and choose the combinations we prefer, so why do you choose combinations you do not prefer? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
On 12/02/2004 09:24:39 AM use-revolution-bounces wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are all my fields and group resized correctly? NOT. I going to have to resize and reset all geometry again... If the GM annoys, choosing never to be annoyed again is an option that takes only one line per resized control. The resizeStack message is a powerful thing, well worth working with directly. It gives you total control over layout with no ambiguity and less overhead. True, but it's a nice feature that I would have hoped was really solid. You know how much time it takes to write those resizestack routines and how much time each new object takes to add... GM is nice. Just dont hit the zoom box button... BTW duplicating objects also creates problems of its own... Using the Align Objects palette will really screw things up... Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
Brian, Then you should have evaluated the latest version of Rev before choosing it for a valuable project. It is not always wise to use the latest version of everything if your money is on the line. If you are so certain that the old Metacard IDE is better, use it. I did that. That why I decided not to upgrade to RR at work. This is not a valuable project, it's just a plain simple vanila browser. Naturally, since I needed a home license the only choice I had was RR Studio. I sympathize with wasting time on your own penny. But in a community where many people spend hours every week contributing and helping and bug hunting, to sound off about your 2 hours in BugZilla and your 1 day slippage in releasing a stack, it rings very hollow with me. I'm sure in your Supercard and HC days, you lost a day somewhere when your stacks got corrupted, for example. Rev ain't perfect, but you can't shake a stick at it's productivity just because you found some geometry bugs. If I had this geometry bug hit my Migration tool, it would take at least one whole week to resize everything... But I have backups, I have mirrors, I have RDFs, I have every fool proof feature built-in in production at work. MC is for work, RR is for fun IMOHO. Dont take me wrong. RR is capable but with the GUI bugs, I'd rather not try. I've seen how RR changes scripts without asking, the debugger doesn't update variable watcher values, and that's way too much already... As for our enterprise license, I dare not put RR in our production network! It's that bad! Because the IDE has bugs? The engine is identical to MetaCard's. If geometry manager is your headache, maybe it's not ready for your needs. And maybe there are more workarounds. And maybe the bugs would be fixed by now if you hadn't been too stubborn to re-enter them in BugZilla a long time ago. You can't negate that the IDE doesn't have bugs! ;) But I dont see bugs in MC2.51, I just see them in RR... Im mean the IDE's GUI though. Im not stubborn regarding bug entry. Im squeezed for my personal time and research. If this was for work, I wouldn't mind taking my sweet time to entry those bugs in a clear description for all it's worth. Scott knows this. There would be twice as many issues which I dont have in MC. It's been running so smoothly for the past 2 years that Scott has heard from me once (partly thanks to my own script editor)! ;) Then why don't you either stick with what was working, or actually help make Rev better in a constructive fashion? replacetext was working in MC, it doesn't in RR... It does in the msg not in the scripts! Resizing a group in MC works, not in RR... Is this for real? And the geometry mgr is also acting up on this group with the zoom feature... I'd like to help, seriously, but it's not on my private time for a stupid stack that it's gonna happen. I feel like everyday is a battle to get things working in RR... I like the features but I dont appreciate it's quality. Then join the process of helping improve it. That's a pretty unique empowerment that you won't find with many major tools. If you don't have time to contribute to the community, why should it jump to support you above and beyond others? Like I said, I bought the studio for fun and personal development. I do want to improve it (like for a super script editor and adding XOS objects to the environment (save another 90% time development) but there is little motivation or need for this right now. So be it... - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
I could rewrite the geometry manager if I had time to waste... I paid for an IDE, it would be stupid to rewrite the wheel... I did that for the MC Script editor and other than my personal use, I never got much demand. Im actually considering getting out of computers but cars have the same problems and so do sponsors ;) I'm not refuting and problems, but I went back to your original lists and counted the responses you've gotten so far. By my count, you had 7 geometry-related bugs. I offered 3 workarounds, each of which is only a little nuisance, and none of which leave you with a runtime problem. Chipp seemed to offer a solution to remedy your window zooming problems. The remaining two or three look I couldn't reproduce and/or seemed to have possible workarounds that I couldn't test without first simulating the problem. It's only been 3 hours since your post, and it seems we might get through all of the geometry problems with little lasting effects and a bunch of recipes to get them fixed. Let's keep truckin' and not just resign ourselves to completely scrapping it and never getting it fixed! If we can get a recipe and a probable solution to all 7, I'd be happy to do the BugZilla piece myself. - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time! in brief....
Hello everyone I've cooled down from my morning meltdown and am mindmelting my zen modules into my logic/temper fuse box to avoid this hassle and go forward. I would like to apoligize for my temper and would also like to thank everyone for defusing me... All your suggestions are not unimportant. They are part of the IDE's and its GUI's work in progress. It's true there's always a workaround. And as Intel's CEO Andy Grove said, complacency is the enemy of progress (not his exact words). But it shows how much depending on any feature can put you in a very hard and narrow box. RR is considerably more complex than MC and surely any of us still using MC have made it equaly as complex in our own environments. Bottom line is that any feature can break another! One thing that is true though is that many of the pesky bugs could be fixed in minutes. Yes independently of the IDE hard-code engine. One proposal would be for RR to deliver smaller-releases with bug fixes... The problem is that many of these bugs concern a substack here or there... That's why I was really happy with MC and making incremental builds for the Script Editor. Could this be a solution? Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
Thanks Chipp! shouldn't set the windowBoundingRect to the screenRect be a default? I'll check the altPlugin - sounds sweet... Im still working on the script editor for RR but Im really strained for time... And XOS is still in the works with some awesome features to come... If the day had 48 hours, I'd be happy... ;) -=- Xavier Bury Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/04 10:03 AM Please respond to How to use Revolution To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time! . Xavier, I, too, am sorry you're having so many problems. Couple points to note: The Geometry Manager, while slick, has some 'getting used to' in using it. I, like Richard, just use the resizeStack command. I feel the same about the Animation palette. The reason why when you expand a window it doesn't go full-screen is because RR resets the windowBoudingRect to an area inside the IDE. You can of course overide it by entering into the msg: set the windowBoundingRect to the screenRect The scrolling breakpoint dot is a known problem. Hopefully, the script editor/debugger will be rewritten soon. There's talk about making it separate windows again, though don't know what will be. Here may be a great place you can contribute as you've spent quite some time in the script editor yourself! Check out: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginCover/about.htm for my altPlugins. It's a resizable toolbar which is easily added to. You can add your own stacks and plugins to do lots of stuff the IDE doesn't do. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
Xavier, et al: 1, So far as I could tell, your 10 bugs are all related to the Rev Dev environment and Rev add-ons (eg: Geometry Manager) to the basic MetaCard framework. 2. I write my own resize stack handler, and I have no problems with geometry at runtime. 3. There is an issue in the AB where one cannot change the relative layers of controls in a group except when editing the group; however I can change the relative layers of a group and a non-grouped control at will. The fault, Dear X-Man, is not in our MetaCard stars but in the Revolutionist wrapper. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
Yeah! I want my bugs fixed first :-) Tom On Feb 12, 2004, at 3:14 AM, Brian Yennie wrote: Then join the process of helping improve it. That's a pretty unique empowerment that you won't find with many major tools. If you don't have time to contribute to the community, why should it jump to support you above and beyond others? - Brian Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
Richard, Is there a way to 'see' the scripts generated by the GM?? I would like to learn some of it's tricks to hand script some objects. Thanks Tom On Feb 12, 2004, at 3:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: If the GM annoys, choosing never to be annoyed again is an option that takes only one line per resized control. The resizeStack message is a powerful thing, well worth working with directly. It gives you total control over layout with no ambiguity and less overhead. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
At 10:46 AM -0500 2/12/04, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Is there a way to 'see' the scripts generated by the GM?? I would like to learn some of it's tricks to hand script some objects. The Geometry Manager doesn't exactly generate scripts. Instead, it sets custom properties on objects that have geometry, then uses a resizeStack handler in a backscript to change object sizes and placement based on the GM custom properties. As Richard says, you can take a look at the backscript for ideas: click the Backscripts button in the message box (second button from the right), and make sure the Show Revolution UI checkbox at the bottom is checked. If you double-click revGeometryBack you'll see that backscript. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
On 12/02/2004 03:08:55 PM use-revolution-bounces wrote: Xavier, et al: 1, So far as I could tell, your 10 bugs are all related to the Rev Dev environment and Rev add-ons (eg: Geometry Manager) to the basic MetaCard framework. My mistake in considering the IDE to be the RR GUI/Framework... The MC IDE remains flawless ;) 2. I write my own resize stack handler, and I have no problems with geometry at runtime. So do I in the MC IDE but in RR, I thought I'd take advantage of it. Unfortunately (and again this morning) it seems like it's not quite solid once you push too many buttons... 3. There is an issue in the AB where one cannot change the relative layers of controls in a group except when editing the group; however I can change the relative layers of a group and a non-grouped control at will. I was in whole-group selection mode. One newly created group overlapped the hidden field that is supposed to be topmost field. When I selected the field to send it on top, the send to top button never hilited! I did it manualy These kind of things shouldn't happen... The fault, Dear X-Man, is not in our MetaCard stars but in the Revolutionist wrapper. Well, it can only get better ;) Thanks Rob! Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
On Feb 11, 2004, at 11:32 PM, MisterX wrote: I never had this many bugs in MC or HC or any other IDE in 20 years development experience... I dont think it's just me... No, it's not just you. Patience is all. Honestly entering 10 bugs into bugzilla would take not significantly longer then it took you to compose the complaint to this list. Not sure what you mean about bugzilla who will surely not record my bugs again. Bugzilla itself has some bugs and quirks, but many of us are using it on a regular basis. Post what problems you are seeing with bugzilla then maybe we can get you back on track. -- Alex Rice | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Alex Rice wrote: Bugzilla itself has some bugs and quirks, but many of us are using it on a regular basis. Post what problems you are seeing with bugzilla then maybe we can get you back on track. Or chat about problems here. Perhaps those are not really bugs, but features you will come to cherish. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
- It does take more time per bug. - Last time I spend 2 hours entering a nice description for just 3 bugs and all got lost. NEVER AGAIN. Im doing this on my personal time and money investment and it's not worth my time or ROI. I know this is not the right thing to do but Im wasting enough time working around bugs that shouldn't be there. When these get solved, and the IDE is smooth I'll consider it... As for our enterprise license, I dare not put RR in our production network! It's that bad! There would be twice as many issues which I dont have in MC. It's been running so smoothly for the past 2 years that Scott has heard from me once (partly thanks to my own script editor)! ;) I feel like everyday is a battle to get things working in RR... I like the features but I dont appreciate it's quality. On 12/02/2004 08:19:05 AM use-revolution-bounces wrote: On Feb 11, 2004, at 11:32 PM, MisterX wrote: I never had this many bugs in MC or HC or any other IDE in 20 years development experience... I dont think it's just me... No, it's not just you. Patience is all. Honestly entering 10 bugs into bugzilla would take not significantly longer then it took you to compose the complaint to this list. Not sure what you mean about bugzilla who will surely not record my bugs again. Bugzilla itself has some bugs and quirks, but many of us are using it on a regular basis. Post what problems you are seeing with bugzilla then maybe we can get you back on track. Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
On Feb 12, 2004, at 12:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - It does take more time per bug. - Last time I spend 2 hours entering a nice description for just 3 bugs and all got lost. Maybe they were not lost. Read this post http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-December/ 026820.html Which, BTW, I don't think runrev ever responded to. Ken, do you know if this that particular bugzilla problem is fixed in the current setup? -- Alex Rice | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!
On 12/02/2004 08:34:52 AM use-revolution-bounces wrote: On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Alex Rice wrote: Bugzilla itself has some bugs and quirks, but many of us are using it on a regular basis. Post what problems you are seeing with bugzilla then maybe we can get you back on track. Or chat about problems here. Perhaps those are not really bugs, but features you will come to cherish. I believe im advanced enough to know what is a bug and what is a feature. But just this geometry manager bug that resized EVERYTHING out of bounds when I zoomed my stack is enough to make me want to delete RR and use MC. I dont need these setbacks at the moment. Cherish something that changes the sizes of your groups to dimentions that are not even those of the zoomed stack? I have a 1260 X 1024 screen, the stack max height and max width are 2^16 I click on the zoom box and my stack is now 87,167,1146,830! W2K or NT4. Are all my fields and group resized correctly? NOT. I going to have to resize and reset all geometry again... Just not cherishable... So if you've also wasted time with bugzilla to see nothing saved, you understand why im not happy... Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolutionI Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
