Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On May 5, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I will have my fingers crossed hoping the team will see something or figure out what it might be... Tell Hans we are fully behind him Have fun ;-( Thanks. I will let you know how it goes. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I have left the frozen Mac sitting all night on two occasions and it did not un-freeze for me. I wish I was going to RRLive but I can not attend. On May 5, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Jim Lambert wrote: On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone who is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the developers. I won't be going either :( But am also experiencing these random 2.9 freezes on a macBook Pro. I've found that if you wait and wait and wait the machine often un- freezes. 1 - 2 minutes. Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Thanks for the postings. My Macbookpro (MacBookPro3,1) running 10.5.2 does the random freeze on saving rev files. All I've been able to do is a hard reboot (hold the on button till the mac turns off). Then press the on button to restart. Burt Woodruff RippleSoft Software www.bgwoodruff.com Message: 15 Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 09:10:08 -0400 From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I have left the frozen Mac sitting all night on two occasions and it did not un-freeze for me. I wish I was going to RRLive but I can not attend. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I am experiencing the freezing and will be at RunRev Live. Bill Vlahos On Saturday, May 03, 2008, at 03:22PM, M Koob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone who is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the developers. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On May 5, 2008, at 6:10 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I have left the frozen Mac sitting all night on two occasions and it did not un-freeze for me. I wish I was going to RRLive but I can not attend. On May 5, 2008, at 12:41 AM, Jim Lambert wrote: On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone who is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the developers. I won't be going either :( But am also experiencing these random 2.9 freezes on a macBook Pro. I've found that if you wait and wait and wait the machine often un- freezes. 1 - 2 minutes. My co-worker Hans and I will be attending. He pledges to do his best to demonstrate the issue to all that will listen. :) Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I will have my fingers crossed hoping the team will see something or figure out what it might be... Tell Hans we are fully behind him Have fun ;-( Tom McGrath On May 5, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: My co-worker Hans and I will be attending. He pledges to do his best to demonstrate the issue to all that will listen. :) Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On May 4, 2008, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone who is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the developers. I won't be going either :( But am also experiencing these random 2.9 freezes on a macBook Pro. I've found that if you wait and wait and wait the machine often un- freezes. 1 - 2 minutes. Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I have had this issue with saving stacks and I agree it seems to be random. I am using a 15 MacBook Pro (Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 GHz). I have read over the posts in this thread to see if there are any clues. Some of the possible causes that have been suggested don't apply to my situation. I have tried to eliminate any of the issues that have been raised as possible factors and I still get a crash randomly. I don't think Login items are an issue -In my regular user account I have only two login items -Snapz Pro -itunes Helper I don't have any of the software installed that others have mentioned namely -EyeTV plugin -USBOverdrive -xKeys iKey -iStat and yet I still get crashes so I don't think any of these is the real culprit. After reading the posts about corrupt preference files and permissions, I created a brand new user account to ensure new preferences files were created. I also ran disk utility to repair permissions. I doubt it would be permissions anyway since most of the time the files will save without a freeze. The freeze is random. Also as a basic form of versioning I continually make duplicates of of my revolution stacks in the Finder and rename them with a higher version number and then open these and work on the new file. These files should have their permissions set correctly as the user that created them in the Finder is also the one opening and saving them in Revolution Studio. I also ensured that there were no login items in this new user account. After working must of the day ii this configuration I got another freeze. One interesting thing is that the freeze is not a total system freeze. It is just the video that is frozen and Revolution is hung, and the keyboard is not responsive ie. can't force quit with key combo. Other processes and apps continue to run in the background. I can login to the frozen Mac Book Pro remotely with terminal running on another Mac that is on the local network and run commands line commands to look at running processes ie. top and ps. I can also 'kill' Revolution remotely from the command line but that does not allow me to use the Mac again, the screen is still frozen. I can also issue a command to shutdown remotely and the Mac shuts down. I have used Revoultion studio 2.8.1 prior to this to work on my application and never had any freezes. This only started happening with 2.9. The stack that I have been working on has 3 Players that play quicktime movies, One of those players is in a substack that is opened as a palette periodically. I wonder, since it seems that it is the video that freezes, if it is something to do with the quicktime movies. Another possible issue is that the stack is larger than the Mac Book Pro's display. The application is targeted for a 20 iMac but I develop on the 15 Mac Book Pro so portions of the stack windows are off screen. Again this was the case when I was working on the application with 2.8.1 so it is a new issue with 2.9. I won't be going to Runrev live this month but I hope that someone who is experiencing the freezes is going and can demonstate it to the developers. I am using the workarounds suggested (such as saving by script instead of with the menu or key combination) to avoid the crashes but it creates extra work and sometimes you slip up. Hopefully there will be a fix for this soon. Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Mark, While this problem still has no 'recipe', I have had the stack that was saving go corrupt so I not only have to save in alternate ways but also I have to do a compress file in the finder to ensure a recent backup. I also archive the stack and of course use Time Machine. What is the method for saving in GLX2? You see, I have just gone back to 2.8 instead of continuing to freeze my machine but would love to play with the new additions to drag and drop and of course the wonderful bug fixes in 2.9. Thanks Tom McGrath On Apr 11, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 10, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? I have not seen the problem on my computer. But, my cohort Hans has the problem every day he works in Rev. We have found that saving his work in GLX 2 is the most reliable form of saving. The problem only happens when he does command - S which uses Rev's saving routines. In most cases, it brings his entire system down forcing him to force shutdown his computer. Not a happy moment when this happens after a long coding session. Luckily he has not lost much work due to diligent saving in GLX 2. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Jim, Thanks for the advice and of course what appears to be a simple thing turns out to be a major complication for me. I created the account then had to reenter serial numbers in RR that would not accept them. Finally, entering old ones and getting a new error then reentering new ones got RR to accept them. This required logging out each time. So I turned on user switching. So much for a clean account now. Logout Login Copy serial numbers Logout Login Paste/ not work Logout Login recopy logout login repaste logout login find old serial nums logout login etc. Set User Switching Switching users another few times and then: Then need to copy RR project to shared folder. Switch Then need to copy resources to shared folder. Switch Not enough resources (song files etc.) Switch Since the stack works with songs, launch itunes, no songs, Switch copy songs to shared folder Switch Now library is working and iTunes is working and RR is working Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. A bit frustrated and feeling lost again Tom McGrath On Apr 10, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Jimmieson, Phil wrote: Hi Tom, have you tried setting up a new user account under OSX, and trying your stacks using that? It may be that the crash is something to do with a preference or setting related to your usual user account. If crashes continue under that then its probably a system thing causing the Rev problem. Phil Jimmieson The University of Liverpool, Computer Science Dept, Ashton Bldg, Ashton Street, Liverpool L69 3BX 0151 795 4236 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Jac, That did it. Thanks for the explanation. Apparently the shared folder was the problem. And of course, the stack saved WITHOUT any problems so now the Freeze is locally suspect. Something changed between 2.8 and the way 2.9 saves that is now in conflict with one of my local settings. This feels like the old OS9 days using the Extensions Manager. Oh well, now to find where the conflict lives. Thank you, Tom McGrath On Apr 16, 2008, at 11:36 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. When Rev saves a stack, it first renames the original by adding a tilde at the end of the file name. Then it tries to copy the stack into a new file. If for some reason the duplication doesn't succeed, you get that error. The backup it is refering to is the original copy, now renamed, which you should be able to find in its original enclosing folder. You can restore the original by removing the tilde from the file name. It won't have your new changes in it, of course, but you'll have the orginal copy to work with again. The error when saving is almost always due to an inability to write to the hard drive. That can be a permissions error, a hard drive error, a disk full error, or anything else that prevents the duplicate stack from being created. I would check the permissions on the stack file itself, on its enclosing folder (you copied it from the shared directory, right? Does it still belong to the original owner?), the permissions on the Rev app itself as well as Rev's enclosing folder. Rev needs to be able to read and write. As an experiment, give everyone all permissions for all the folders and files -- the owner, the group, and everyone -- just to see if that's the problem. Basically you want anyone to be able to copy and write to that user's account. You can change the permissions back later, but see if that fixes it for now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Thomas McGrath III wrote: Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. When Rev saves a stack, it first renames the original by adding a tilde at the end of the file name. Then it tries to copy the stack into a new file. If for some reason the duplication doesn't succeed, you get that error. The backup it is refering to is the original copy, now renamed, which you should be able to find in its original enclosing folder. You can restore the original by removing the tilde from the file name. It won't have your new changes in it, of course, but you'll have the orginal copy to work with again. The error when saving is almost always due to an inability to write to the hard drive. That can be a permissions error, a hard drive error, a disk full error, or anything else that prevents the duplicate stack from being created. I would check the permissions on the stack file itself, on its enclosing folder (you copied it from the shared directory, right? Does it still belong to the original owner?), the permissions on the Rev app itself as well as Rev's enclosing folder. Rev needs to be able to read and write. As an experiment, give everyone all permissions for all the folders and files -- the owner, the group, and everyone -- just to see if that's the problem. Basically you want anyone to be able to copy and write to that user's account. You can change the permissions back later, but see if that fixes it for now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Guess who's computer is no longer FREEZING when saving on OSX in Revolution? ME.. I deleted a series of LOGIN items from my Accounts/Login Items in System Settings. I had previously uninstalled a series of applications that added menu items etc. to my system but that did not help. Then I noticed that a new user account has no login items at all. So I went and deleted the relevant items that were still in the Login Items tab. I had deleted the preference panes and applications but there were still items in the login items tab for those apps. I am sorry that I don't know which ones were creating problems for me since I deleted a bunch. I can try and use Time machine to go back but I don't want to on my whole system. Does anyone know where these Login Items are/were stored? A very happy Revolution user Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Thomas, GLX2 has auto-save (save every n times you compile) and auto- archive. These are preferences on the Prefs Palette. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2 On Apr 16, 2008, at 7:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: What is the method for saving in GLX2? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys This is still installed: Flip4Mac WMV SO the only ones that I am questioning are the EyeTV plugin, the USBOverdrive, and xKeys, and iStat Tom On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Guess who's computer is no longer FREEZING when saving on OSX in Revolution? I am sorry that I don't know which ones were creating problems for me since I deleted a bunch. A very happy Revolution user Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I see this problem on newly created stacks and I don't think it is a permissions issue. It seems to be random when it crashes. It will work fine several times and then crash. Nothing apparently different on my end. I never had this problem with any previous version of Rev or any other program I've ever seen. Bill On Wednesday, April 16, 2008, at 09:13AM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas McGrath III wrote: Error on trying to save: Can't save stack libITS due to an error: can't open stack backup file Check the file path, and make sure you have sufficient permissions. I am not even using GLX2 in RR in this new user account, which is what normally is set to back up my stacks. So I look for an RR backup setting and find none. What is causing this backup file to happen and what path is it referring to? If I can find that maybe I can deal with the Permissions. When Rev saves a stack, it first renames the original by adding a tilde at the end of the file name. Then it tries to copy the stack into a new file. If for some reason the duplication doesn't succeed, you get that error. The backup it is refering to is the original copy, now renamed, which you should be able to find in its original enclosing folder. You can restore the original by removing the tilde from the file name. It won't have your new changes in it, of course, but you'll have the orginal copy to work with again. The error when saving is almost always due to an inability to write to the hard drive. That can be a permissions error, a hard drive error, a disk full error, or anything else that prevents the duplicate stack from being created. I would check the permissions on the stack file itself, on its enclosing folder (you copied it from the shared directory, right? Does it still belong to the original owner?), the permissions on the Rev app itself as well as Rev's enclosing folder. Rev needs to be able to read and write. As an experiment, give everyone all permissions for all the folders and files -- the owner, the group, and everyone -- just to see if that's the problem. Basically you want anyone to be able to copy and write to that user's account. You can change the permissions back later, but see if that fixes it for now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:42 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Mark, While this problem still has no 'recipe', I have had the stack that was saving go corrupt so I not only have to save in alternate ways but also I have to do a compress file in the finder to ensure a recent backup. I also archive the stack and of course use Time Machine. What is the method for saving in GLX2? You see, I have just gone back to 2.8 instead of continuing to freeze my machine but would love to play with the new additions to drag and drop and of course the wonderful bug fixes in 2.9. Thanks Tom McGrath Hi Tom, Hans tells me that he will not allow himself to use the Rev IDE for saving. In other words, no command - S unless he has a script visible in GLX2. When GLX2 is open and a script is visible from the stack he is working on, then the G scripts are in use. For some reason, this works quite well. We have come to believe that the issue is with the saving dialog from Rev. The dialog is the last thing he sees. I use save in my projects all the time (in scripts) and have never had any issue. Thus, I think it is really the IDE that is causing all this grief. Maybe Rev could just do a diff on the 2.8.1 and 2.9 saving routines and see what has changed and get us back in shape. Because of all of this, we are very paranoid when saving around here. We both use Chronosync as our backup system. It backs up our work every 15 minutes to multiple locations. Because one can develop in Rev so quickly, 15 minutes could be a lot of work lost. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Well, in trying to track down this freeze I started to reinstall some of my applications. EyeTV seems to have no effect on RR Saving. Flip4Mac WMV has no effect. --- iKey brings back the Freeze. iKey is a software and USB hardware keyboard (iKeys) combination. I use Revolution to use the iKeys keyboard to control my Robots and my TV etc. I also use a plugin called irTrans and another software called iRed which uses a device called iRTrans (infrared send and receiver). This allows me to use Revolution to respond to keypresses on the the iKeys and send IR commands via USB to the iRTrans device that then sends the IR command to the Robot, TV, etc. I have loved having total control over a Robot from a RR interface. I further uninstalled each of these in turn and they all work by themselves and won't cause RR to freeze, except one situation where iKeys is set to open at startup in it's preferences window then RR freezes. As far as I can tell the application iKey.app is the actual start up file in the login items tab in Accounts in System Preferences. If I delete this in Login Items but still use the same application (but not at startup) then I have no Freeze. The program iKeys works fine and RR saves just fine, it is only when this item is in the Login Items that I am experiencing the Freeze. Yet it seems that the login just launches the same exact program (reveal in finder in the Login Items preferences pane points to the same app I launch). The iKeys app has software and an engine that also has a main menu bar menu. iRed has a plugin irTrans and a software iRed to edit and send the ir commands. --- Here is the info from iKeys: iKey - Easy, Powerful Automation for Mac OS X Programming by Philippe HUPÉ Design by Philippe HUPÉ and Julian MILLER Manual by Adam ENGST iKey is guaranteed to serve and protect mankind. Mac users anyway! Web Site: http://www.scriptsoftware.com/ikey/ Tech Support Forum: http://www.scriptsoftware.com/forum/ Contacts: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys This is still installed: Flip4Mac WMV SO the only ones that I am questioning are the EyeTV plugin, the USBOverdrive, and xKeys, and iStat Tom On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Guess who's computer is no longer FREEZING when saving on OSX in Revolution? I am sorry that I don't know which ones were creating problems for me since I deleted a bunch. A very happy Revolution user Tom McGrath ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Mark, I also suspected USBOverdrive and now I have narrowed down the iKey and Xkeys as contributing factors. Since both of these are used for I/ O - USB - Serial connections that might be a factor since the save checks I/O devices and since some devices are connected over USB. I don't know but right now with both USBOverdrive and iKeys uninstalled and removed from my Login Items I have not had a crash for the first time since 2.9 came out. I will keep testing over the next few days to see if this is indeed where the problem lies. Thanks for hanging in there and your feedback. Tom McGrath P.S. Tell Hans he is not alone. :-) On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:01 PM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: I will keep testing over the next few days to see if this is indeed where the problem lies. Thanks for hanging in there and your feedback. Tom McGrath P.S. Tell Hans he is not alone. :-) Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Mark Talluto wrote: Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Mark W. is going to be delighted with this discovery. :) I use SteerMouse and haven't had any problem at all saving. Might be worth a look if you only use USBOverdrive for mouse control. http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/ -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Perhaps happenstance that both crash related items (USB overdrive, and iKeys or X-keys) have to do with USB devices? -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Are all these OS X freezes happening on recent 10.5 installs? Cheers, Luis. Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Normally OS X will prevent 'badly behaved' drivers (have noted USB drivers specifically) from loading into the system, especially so on OS X 10.5. Having them then 'forced into being' as startup items is asking them to load up again. Note that some apps have to make specific changes to be OS X 10.5 friendly (I have seen this with TechTool) and not just drivers, so check for updates. Cheers, Luis. Thomas McGrath III wrote: Mark, I also suspected USBOverdrive and now I have narrowed down the iKey and Xkeys as contributing factors. Since both of these are used for I/O - USB - Serial connections that might be a factor since the save checks I/O devices and since some devices are connected over USB. I don't know but right now with both USBOverdrive and iKeys uninstalled and removed from my Login Items I have not had a crash for the first time since 2.9 came out. I will keep testing over the next few days to see if this is indeed where the problem lies. Thanks for hanging in there and your feedback. Tom McGrath P.S. Tell Hans he is not alone. :-) On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:10 PM, Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Luis wrote: Are all these OS X freezes happening on recent 10.5 installs? Hans has a fresh install of OS 10.5.2. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 16, 2008, at 2:36 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mark Talluto wrote: Ok. Here is the latest over here. Hans put USBOverdrive back into the mix and got rev to crash within 4 saves using the rev ide. He misses USBOverdrive and has gone back to using GLX2 to save all his work. We have a working solution over here until this gets ironed out. Mark W. is going to be delighted with this discovery. :) I use SteerMouse and haven't had any problem at all saving. Might be worth a look if you only use USBOverdrive for mouse control. http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/ Thanks Jaque, I'll let you know how it goes. -Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
10.5.2 here. And once I put xKeys iKey back in I got the crash the second save. I am going to consider Hans solution for now. I keep USBOverdrive for some software but I can live without it for now. Tom On Apr 16, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Luis wrote: Are all these OS X freezes happening on recent 10.5 installs? Cheers, Luis. Mark Talluto wrote: On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:39 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: From Memory I can remember these were in the Login folder: iStat (some plugin - although I had deleted the preference pane for this) USBOverdrive EyeTV (some plugin - deleted the app before) xKeys (some plugin - deleted the app before) These apps were installed previously and I un-installed them: Google Desktop DivX iStat Menus Version Cue CS3 Wacom Tablet XKeys Very interesting list Thomas. Hans took out USBOverdrive from his login items. He has been saving a lot since to test it out. No crashes yet! He will run like this for another few days and see how it goes. I do not have USBOverdrive in my login items and have never seen this before. This may be it. Will post again later. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10.5.2 here. And once I put xKeys iKey back in I got the crash the second save. I am going to consider Hans solution for now. I keep USBOverdrive for some software but I can live without it for now. I use USBOverdrive Tom, and while I mostly save using GLX2, I sometimes do a standard save, and I haven't had any problems. One other thing to check is that you have Leopard-compatible versions of all these utilities. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I did/do not experience this, but I remember Bill in one of his messages to beta testers asking to help create a reproducible recipe of the freeze on OSX. It was reported to the QC (#6256) but could not be reproduced by the developers and therefore could not be fixed. Its status is still pending, which may mean there still is no recipe to reproduce the bug... 2 cents from Viktoras Steve Flavel wrote: Tom, I have had 4 freezes in the last 3 days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Thomas McGrath III Sent: Thu 10-Apr-08 4:19 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Steve Flavel Macbook Pro 2.2 OS 10.5.2 2.9.0 build 610 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Have you had a look at the Console output? Check around the time this happens and see what the system reported. Cheers, Luis. On 15 Apr 2008, at 07:33, viktoras didziulis wrote: I did/do not experience this, but I remember Bill in one of his messages to beta testers asking to help create a reproducible recipe of the freeze on OSX. It was reported to the QC (#6256) but could not be reproduced by the developers and therefore could not be fixed. Its status is still pending, which may mean there still is no recipe to reproduce the bug... 2 cents from Viktoras Steve Flavel wrote: Tom, I have had 4 freezes in the last 3 days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Thomas McGrath III Sent: Thu 10-Apr-08 4:19 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Steve Flavel Macbook Pro 2.2 OS 10.5.2 2.9.0 build 610 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Hi Tom, have you tried setting up a new user account under OSX, and trying your stacks using that? It may be that the crash is something to do with a preference or setting related to your usual user account. If crashes continue under that then its probably a system thing causing the Rev problem. Phil Jimmieson The University of Liverpool, Computer Science Dept, Ashton Bldg, Ashton Street, Liverpool L69 3BX 0151 795 4236 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Thomas McGrath III Sent: Thu 10-Apr-08 4:19 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Tom, I have had 4 freezes in the last 3 days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Thomas McGrath III Sent: Thu 10-Apr-08 4:19 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: 2.9 Freeze on OSX Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Steve Flavel Macbook Pro 2.2 OS 10.5.2 2.9.0 build 610 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:19, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? I am using 2.9 daily ; I am experiencing this freeze when saving but not systematically, only from time to time (something like one or two times a day). Best regards from Grenoble André___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On Apr 10, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? I have not seen the problem on my computer. But, my cohort Hans has the problem every day he works in Rev. We have found that saving his work in GLX 2 is the most reliable form of saving. The problem only happens when he does command - S which uses Rev's saving routines. In most cases, it brings his entire system down forcing him to force shutdown his computer. Not a happy moment when this happens after a long coding session. Luckily he has not lost much work due to diligent saving in GLX 2. Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Tom, No freeze there in using 2.9 GM1 (MacBookPro 15 Dual Core 2 Ghz 2 Go RAM OS 10.5.2). Best, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 10 avr. 08 à 17:19, Thomas McGrath III a écrit : Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I am experiencing Rev 2.9 freezups (requiring that I force quit to get out, sometimes necessitating a reboot), but I'm thinking they occur when I try to quit Rev rather than when I try to save changes. Haven't worked the details out yet (sorry!) and haven't had enough problem to stop in the middle of working on my current project to figure things out. M On Apr 10, 2008, at 10:19 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Hi Tom, I'm using 2.9 all day now without any of such freezes. Do you also see a spinning beachball of death, or do you still see an arrow cursor when you move the mouse cursor over Rev windows? Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 10-apr-2008, om 17:19 heeft Thomas McGrath III het volgende geschreven: Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
On 10 Apr 2008, at 16:19, Thomas McGrath III wrote: How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Nope, the only freeze I had was when running an AppleScript that wasn't completing, but Rev eventually became responsive again once it timed out. Rev 2.9.0 gm1, OS X 10.5.2 on a rev A MBP. Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Mark, I am seeing the beach ball when over any Rev windows. Sometimes it takes a minute to change to the beach ball though. Tom On Apr 10, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Tom, I'm using 2.9 all day now without any of such freezes. Do you also see a spinning beachball of death, or do you still see an arrow cursor when you move the mouse cursor over Rev windows? Best, Mark -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
I am. There already is a bugzilla ticket (5256) for this and Rev is trying to get a handle on it. Obviously it only affects a subset of users but it is bad. Bill Vlahos On Apr 10, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: 2.9 Freeze on OSX
Neither of the projects I'm working with have frozen on Saving, though when painting, one of them saves somewhat inconsistently. I still haven't been able to create a Classic standalone with either one of them that will open up under 9.2.2 on a G4. Joe Wilkins On Apr 10, 2008, at 8:38 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I am. There already is a bugzilla ticket (5256) for this and Rev is trying to get a handle on it. Obviously it only affects a subset of users but it is bad. Bill Vlahos On Apr 10, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: Ok, now that the 2.9 version has been out for a little while I need to know how many people are experiencing the Freeze while performing a Save problem (computer lock up with force restart the only way out). I can not use 2.9 at all since it now happens every time I go to save after writing some code. I have installed RR from scratch and repaired permissions on my HD and removed most extra preference panes etc. from my system and still have the instant freezes when saving with 2.9. This does NOT happen with 2.8 which I am using everyday. The same stacks will freeze in 2.9 but not in 2.8. How many people are experiencing this Freeze on Save??? Thanks Tom ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
