Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Stephen, Your tRev license to get updates is good until July. You will see a notice at bottom left of tRev window telling you when your renewal date gets 60 days or less. You'll also get a link to initiate the renewal process. Best, Jerry Daniels The latest Rev Editor Video: http://reveditor.com/background-tabs-open-a-tab-without-going-ther On Mar 15, 2010, at 2:24 PM, stephen barncard wrote: I just tested the same exact situation and it seems work fine in tRev... thanks again for your quick work. By the way, don't I owe you money for a renewal pretty soon??? What should I do? thanks sqb On 15 March 2010 14:00, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Stephen, The unique card situation has I BELIEVE been fixed in the latest tRev build. Tricky stuff. JD On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. click on stack2 use the inspector to see the first card. but it's the name that I called the first card in the first stack, I never can reveal card id 1002 of stack2 It's like the that function (the popup under lock) is looking at card IDs and not names for reference. I just tried navigation via the Application Browser, I now can see the names in the application browser and actually do the navigation there. And I have had this problem lately in tRev. But the navigation seems to be broken in the popup in the Inspector with regards to recognizing cards with the same ID. Should this be posted as a bug? - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Bonjour Stephen, Le 15 mars 10 à 06:49, stephen barncard a écrit : Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. I followed your recipe here on Mac OSX 10.5.8, Rev 4.0 All is working well. With name of card 1 of stack1 = stack1Card and name of card 1 of stack2 = stack2Card: Clicking alternatively on the two stacks and using the triangle below the lock, with the menuItem Card, I get the right name for the two cards 1 (stack1Card or stack2Card) as expected. Best regards from Grenoble André click on stack2 use the inspector to see the first card. but it's the name that I called the first card in the first stack, I never can reveal card id 1002 of stack2 It's like the that function (the popup under lock) is looking at card IDs and not names for reference. I just tried navigation via the Application Browser, I now can see the names in the application browser and actually do the navigation there. And I have had this problem lately in tRev. But the navigation seems to be broken in the popup in the Inspector with regards to recognizing cards with the same ID. Should this be posted as a bug? - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
But you didn't follow my recipe!! You renamed the cards in the application browser before looking. Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. once again start with a clean IDE create new stack create substack *using only the inspector panel*, try to navigate and rename both first cards of the mainstack and substack respectively. you will find it is not possible. could someone please confirm this so I can report it. sqb On 15 March 2010 02:30, Andre.Bisseret andre.bisse...@inria.fr wrote: Bonjour Stephen, Le 15 mars 10 à 06:49, stephen barncard a écrit : Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. I followed your recipe here on Mac OSX 10.5.8, Rev 4.0 All is working well. With name of card 1 of stack1 = stack1Card and name of card 1 of stack2 = stack2Card: Clicking alternatively on the two stacks and using the triangle below the lock, with the menuItem Card, I get the right name for the two cards 1 (stack1Card or stack2Card) as expected. Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Hi, Well, the inspector shows the cards for the open stack, so you won't be able to see the cards from both stacks, you have to navigate to the other stack so you can see its cards on Inspector. Marcio Alexandroni www.cialogica.com.br ( (11) 9989-8316 marcioalexandroni -- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:01:21 -0500 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE But you didn't follow my recipe!! You renamed the cards in the application browser before looking. Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. once again start with a clean IDE create new stack create substack *using only the inspector panel*, try to navigate and rename both first cards of the mainstack and substack respectively. you will find it is not possible. could someone please confirm this so I can report it. sqb On 15 March 2010 02:30, Andre.Bisseret andre.bisse...@inria.fr wrote: Bonjour Stephen, Le 15 mars 10 à 06:49, stephen barncard a écrit : Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. I followed your recipe here on Mac OSX 10.5.8, Rev 4.0 All is working well. With name of card 1 of stack1 = stack1Card and name of card 1 of stack2 = stack2Card: Clicking alternatively on the two stacks and using the triangle below the lock, with the menuItem Card, I get the right name for the two cards 1 (stack1Card or stack2Card) as expected. Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Did you then navigate to the other stack *in the inspecto*r and try to access the card of the substack??? It can't be done in the inspector! Should I just ignore it and just say it's one of those things or report it? On 15 March 2010 09:05, Marcio Alexandroni mar...@cialogica.com.br wrote: Hi, Well, the inspector shows the cards for the open stack, so you won't be able to see the cards from both stacks, you have to navigate to the other stack so you can see its cards on Inspector. Marcio Alexandroni www.cialogica.com.br ( (11) 9989-8316 marcioalexandroni -- From: stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:01:21 -0500 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE But you didn't follow my recipe!! You renamed the cards in the application browser before looking. Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. once again start with a clean IDE create new stack create substack *using only the inspector panel*, try to navigate and rename both first cards of the mainstack and substack respectively. you will find it is not possible. could someone please confirm this so I can report it. sqb On 15 March 2010 02:30, Andre.Bisseret andre.bisse...@inria.fr wrote: Bonjour Stephen, Le 15 mars 10 à 06:49, stephen barncard a écrit : Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. I followed your recipe here on Mac OSX 10.5.8, Rev 4.0 All is working well. With name of card 1 of stack1 = stack1Card and name of card 1 of stack2 = stack2Card: Clicking alternatively on the two stacks and using the triangle below the lock, with the menuItem Card, I get the right name for the two cards 1 (stack1Card or stack2Card) as expected. Best regards from Grenoble André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
FWIW, I was unable to reproduce this using this recipe - note that all actions were done only in the Inspector, without the App Browser even open: 1. Booted Rev 2. Created a new stack 3. Create a substack 4. Brought the mainstack forward, used the Stack Inspector to set its name to stack1 5. Brought the substack forward, used the Stack Inspector to set its name to stack2 6. Brought the mainstack forward, used the Card Inspector to set its named to stack1card 7. Brought the substack forward, used the Card Inspector to set its name to stack2card. As far as I can tell all object names are as I entered them. What steps am I missing in this recipe? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Stephen- Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:30:18 AM, you wrote: Did you then navigate to the other stack *in the inspecto*r and try to access the card of the substack??? It can't be done in the inspector! It's a bit of a wonky interface, but it *does* work. I didn't realize before that you were using the disclosure triangle for this. Using the triangle, select the substack. Then using the triangle again, select the card (card 1002[1]) and give it a name. You can then select the main stack again, and then the card selections will be from the main stack. But I'd rather use tRev. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Richard, did you then go back to the first card of the first stack and see if it had been renamed to stack2card ?? this is what I am seeing. On 15 March 2010 09:47, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: FWIW, I was unable to reproduce this using this recipe - note that all actions were done only in the Inspector, without the App Browser even open: 1. Booted Rev 2. Created a new stack 3. Create a substack 4. Brought the mainstack forward, used the Stack Inspector to set its name to stack1 5. Brought the substack forward, used the Stack Inspector to set its name to stack2 6. Brought the mainstack forward, used the Card Inspector to set its named to stack1card 7. Brought the substack forward, used the Card Inspector to set its name to stack2card. As far as I can tell all object names are as I entered them. What steps am I missing in this recipe? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
stephen barncard wrote: Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. I've never had any problem with this. What are the actual names of your two stacks? The symptoms sound like what happens if two stacks have the same name. I'm sure you aren't doing that, but wondering if your problem is related somehow. BTW, you don't look like a fool; you've just stumbled on some kind of exception that the rest of us haven't encountered yet. Before you report it, we should try to figure out the cause. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Le 15 mars 10 à 15:01, stephen barncard a écrit : But you didn't follow my recipe!! You renamed the cards in the application browser before looking. Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. once again start with a clean IDE create new stack create substack *using only the inspector panel*, try to navigate and rename both first cards of the mainstack and substack respectively. you will find it is not possible. could someone please confirm this so I can report it. Stephen, I just created a main stack : I kept its name : Untitled 1 Then a substack of it also keeping its name : Untitled 2 Then using only the Inspector (never clicked elsewhere) 1 - In the menu Inspect / stack I checked Untitled 1 Then in the menu Inspect / Card I check card ID 1002 In the inspector I got the pane for Card id 1002 I changed this name for cardOfUntitled1 (note that, just after writing the name in the field, as an habit, I always click somewhere on the pane (in the grey part: I noticed that it is often necessary in order the change to be taken into account) 2 - In the menu Inspect / stack I checked Untitled 2 Then in the menu Inspect / Card I check card ID 1002 In the inspector I got the pane for Card id 1002 I changed this name for cardOfUntitled2 Now the name of the card of main stack Untitiled 1 is CardOfUntitled1 and the name of the card of substack Untitled 2 is CardOfUntitled2 so, provided that this was the recipe you were expecting, seems possible to me André ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
In my last attempt, the names of the two *stacks* are the default ones upon creation. I then attempt to name the first card of the substack. I can click on the substack, and I'll see one card in the inspector nav, select it, rename the card, and then bring the main stack to the front, and use the inspector to see the first card of the mainstack - and it has the name I gave the substack card. On 15 March 2010 10:40, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. I've never had any problem with this. What are the actual names of your two stacks? The symptoms sound like what happens if two stacks have the same name. I'm sure you aren't doing that, but wondering if your problem is related somehow. BTW, you don't look like a fool; you've just stumbled on some kind of exception that the rest of us haven't encountered yet. Before you report it, we should try to figure out the cause. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
It works properly under Win7. Maybe something in your plugins folder is interfering? Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: In my last attempt, the names of the two *stacks* are the default ones upon creation. I then attempt to name the first card of the substack. I can click on the substack, and I'll see one card in the inspector nav, select it, rename the card, and then bring the main stack to the front, and use the inspector to see the first card of the mainstack - and it has the name I gave the substack card. On 15 March 2010 10:40, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. I've never had any problem with this. What are the actual names of your two stacks? The symptoms sound like what happens if two stacks have the same name. I'm sure you aren't doing that, but wondering if your problem is related somehow. BTW, you don't look like a fool; you've just stumbled on some kind of exception that the rest of us haven't encountered yet. Before you report it, we should try to figure out the cause. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
I tried 3 versions of Rev: 4, 4.5 dp1 and dp2. It's still broken for me. I'll be committing myself to a mental health facility later this afternoon after I finish talking to my imaginary friends. Then when I'm safely stored away, I will use the app browser instead. Sorry to bother everyone with this. On 15 March 2010 10:53, Neal Campbell nealk...@gmail.com wrote: It works properly under Win7. Maybe something in your plugins folder is interfering? Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.com wrote: In my last attempt, the names of the two *stacks* are the default ones upon creation. I then attempt to name the first card of the substack. I can click on the substack, and I'll see one card in the inspector nav, select it, rename the card, and then bring the main stack to the front, and use the inspector to see the first card of the mainstack - and it has the name I gave the substack card. On 15 March 2010 10:40, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: Look everyone, I know I look like a fool here, and now I know that it's possible with the App browser but I know what I am seeing and I think there is a bug here. I had been trying to use the Inspection panel exclusively without using the application browser at all. I was assuming that they would be working the same way. I've never had any problem with this. What are the actual names of your two stacks? The symptoms sound like what happens if two stacks have the same name. I'm sure you aren't doing that, but wondering if your problem is related somehow. BTW, you don't look like a fool; you've just stumbled on some kind of exception that the rest of us haven't encountered yet. Before you report it, we should try to figure out the cause. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Hi Stephen, I gave this a try and captured my screen. If you think it would be help, watch it and see what I got. If I missed a step, just let me know and I will modify my actions to match yours better. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
The only difference is that you are double-clicking the stacks. that doesn't matter. I dont' know what's going on, I've tried this 5 times in the last 2 days... just now, though by single clicking I can do it. Thanks all for the help of this apparent non-issue. On 15 March 2010 13:20, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Hi Stephen, I gave this a try and captured my screen. If you think it would be help, watch it and see what I got. If I missed a step, just let me know and I will modify my actions to match yours better. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
stephen barncard wrote: In my last attempt, the names of the two *stacks* are the default ones upon creation. I then attempt to name the first card of the substack. I can click on the substack, and I'll see one card in the inspector nav, select it, rename the card, and then bring the main stack to the front, and use the inspector to see the first card of the mainstack - and it has the name I gave the substack card. Here is what I did: Create new mainstack Untitled 1 Create new substack of mainstack, Untitled 2 Right-click on mainstack with edit tool. Choose card property inspector. Name card 1 of mainstack. Right-click on substack with edit tool. Choose card property inspector. Name card 1 of substack. That works. I can also do it with the little arrow at the right side of the Inspector, but that's trickier with potential glitches. So if there is a bug, it's in that arrow somewhere, but possibly more in the interface design than in the implementation, because if you do things in exactly the right order the arrow works. But it's not as easy as just clicking on the stack. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
I will give it another try without double-clicking the stacks as I move between them. It is an old habit of mine to make sure it is listening to me. Otherwise I am following the recipe correctly? -Mark On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:31 AM, stephen barncard wrote: The only difference is that you are double-clicking the stacks. that doesn't matter. I dont' know what's going on, I've tried this 5 times in the last 2 days... just now, though by single clicking I can do it. Thanks all for the help of this apparent non-issue. On 15 March 2010 13:20, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Hi Stephen, I gave this a try and captured my screen. If you think it would be help, watch it and see what I got. If I missed a step, just let me know and I will modify my actions to match yours better. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Stephen, The unique card situation has I BELIEVE been fixed in the latest tRev build. Tricky stuff. JD On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. click on stack2 use the inspector to see the first card. but it's the name that I called the first card in the first stack, I never can reveal card id 1002 of stack2 It's like the that function (the popup under lock) is looking at card IDs and not names for reference. I just tried navigation via the Application Browser, I now can see the names in the application browser and actually do the navigation there. And I have had this problem lately in tRev. But the navigation seems to be broken in the popup in the Inspector with regards to recognizing cards with the same ID. Should this be posted as a bug? - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Thanks Jacque -- yes that does it - thanks for the confirmation of the possibility of a glitch. My lesson is to use the Application Browser or the newly-fixed object browser in tRev for this situation - just tested and works fine (and definitely wasn't right a week ago.) to Mark: yes you were following the recipe. On 15 March 2010 13:35, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: stephen barncard wrote: In my last attempt, the names of the two *stacks* are the default ones upon creation. I then attempt to name the first card of the substack. I can click on the substack, and I'll see one card in the inspector nav, select it, rename the card, and then bring the main stack to the front, and use the inspector to see the first card of the mainstack - and it has the name I gave the substack card. Here is what I did: Create new mainstack Untitled 1 Create new substack of mainstack, Untitled 2 Right-click on mainstack with edit tool. Choose card property inspector. Name card 1 of mainstack. Right-click on substack with edit tool. Choose card property inspector. Name card 1 of substack. That works. I can also do it with the little arrow at the right side of the Inspector, but that's trickier with potential glitches. So if there is a bug, it's in that arrow somewhere, but possibly more in the interface design than in the implementation, because if you do things in exactly the right order the arrow works. But it's not as easy as just clicking on the stack. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Ok. I think I got it. You can see in my video that I paused as I realized this is not right! Tell me what you think. The trick was to switch stacks by clicking on their titlebar once to change focus. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Thanks. That's it. So clicking on the stack may not always change the reference but clicking the title bar should. I'm not sure this is worth reporting as a bug - what do you think? At least you captured the effect. by the way, Mark, what is that 'special' black toolbar up there ? Custom? sqb On 15 March 2010 14:07, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Ok. I think I got it. You can see in my video that I paused as I realized this is not right! Tell me what you think. The trick was to switch stacks by clicking on their titlebar once to change focus. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
I just tested the same exact situation and it seems work fine in tRev... thanks again for your quick work. By the way, don't I owe you money for a renewal pretty soon??? What should I do? thanks sqb On 15 March 2010 14:00, Jerry Daniels jerry.dani...@me.com wrote: Stephen, The unique card situation has I BELIEVE been fixed in the latest tRev build. Tricky stuff. JD On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:49 AM, stephen barncard wrote: Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. click on stack2 use the inspector to see the first card. but it's the name that I called the first card in the first stack, I never can reveal card id 1002 of stack2 It's like the that function (the popup under lock) is looking at card IDs and not names for reference. I just tried navigation via the Application Browser, I now can see the names in the application browser and actually do the navigation there. And I have had this problem lately in tRev. But the navigation seems to be broken in the popup in the Inspector with regards to recognizing cards with the same ID. Should this be posted as a bug? - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
I think it is worth reporting. Someone else is going to stumble on it eventually. I will leave the video on my server almost forever if you would like to reference it in your bugzilla report. That extra tool bar is something I put together that helps me with development. Now you know you are not crazy...or maybe with both are crazy. :) Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:17 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Thanks. That's it. So clicking on the stack may not always change the reference but clicking the title bar should. I'm not sure this is worth reporting as a bug - what do you think? At least you captured the effect. by the way, Mark, what is that 'special' black toolbar up there ? Custom? sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Here, that works even without clicking on the stack to get it on top. It'is possible to change the name of the card even in the stack which is back (only by checking it in the arrow inspect / stack. Best regards André Le 15 mars 10 à 19:31, stephen barncard a écrit : The only difference is that you are double-clicking the stacks. that doesn't matter. I dont' know what's going on, I've tried this 5 times in the last 2 days... just now, though by single clicking I can do it. Thanks all for the help of this apparent non-issue. On 15 March 2010 13:20, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.com wrote: Hi Stephen, I gave this a try and captured my screen. If you think it would be help, watch it and see what I got. If I missed a step, just let me know and I will modify my actions to match yours better. http://www.canelasoftware.com/pub/rev/inspector.mov Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Recently, stephen barncard wrote: At first I thought this was a tRev issue, but now I don't think so I've started to work more with substacks, but I'm running into a major snag. Will someone tell me why I can't name, edit or even see the second card? 1. Create a mainstack, name it stack1 2 create a substack of #1 above, name it stack2 3. set the name of card 1 of stack 1 to stack1card 4. try and set the name of card 1 of stack2 to anything. Stephen, are you referring specifically to tRev? Because just using the Rev IDE, I have no problems creating/naming cards. Using the Inspector palette, message box, and Application Browser all work fine here (v4). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Scott - before you declared 'everything's working' did you try my recipe?? It's not the creating/ naming a single stack - it's the IDs that are assigned to cards - and the fact that when you create a substack, there is ANOTHER first card with the ID of 1002. The IDE gets confused and refuses to let me work on that second card in the substack. - Stephen Barncard On 15 March 2010 01:09, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, stephen barncard wrote: At first I thought this was a tRev issue, but now I don't think so I've started to work more with substacks, but I'm running into a major snag. Will someone tell me why I can't name, edit or even see the second card? 1. Create a mainstack, name it stack1 2 create a substack of #1 above, name it stack2 3. set the name of card 1 of stack 1 to stack1card 4. try and set the name of card 1 of stack2 to anything. Stephen, are you referring specifically to tRev? Because just using the Rev IDE, I have no problems creating/naming cards. Using the Inspector palette, message box, and Application Browser all work fine here (v4). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
and this is NOT using tREV - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 15 March 2010 00:15, stephen barncard stephenrevoluti...@barncard.comwrote: Scott - before you declared 'everything's working' did you try my recipe?? It's not the creating/ naming a single stack - it's the IDs that are assigned to cards - and the fact that when you create a substack, there is ANOTHER first card with the ID of 1002. The IDE gets confused and refuses to let me work on that second card in the substack. - Stephen Barncard On 15 March 2010 01:09, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com wrote: Recently, stephen barncard wrote: At first I thought this was a tRev issue, but now I don't think so I've started to work more with substacks, but I'm running into a major snag. Will someone tell me why I can't name, edit or even see the second card? 1. Create a mainstack, name it stack1 2 create a substack of #1 above, name it stack2 3. set the name of card 1 of stack 1 to stack1card 4. try and set the name of card 1 of stack2 to anything. Stephen, are you referring specifically to tRev? Because just using the Rev IDE, I have no problems creating/naming cards. Using the Inspector palette, message box, and Application Browser all work fine here (v4). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Stephen- Not much help, I know, but I followed your recipe and it works fine here. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Recently, stephen barncard wrote: Scott - before you declared 'everything's working' did you try my recipe?? It's not the creating/ naming a single stack - it's the IDs that are assigned to cards - and the fact that when you create a substack, there is ANOTHER first card with the ID of 1002. The IDE gets confused and refuses to let me work on that second card in the substack. Yes, I did. And I'm not following your concern about IDs. When initially created, the cards in (main) stack1 have IDs of 1002, 1004. The cards in (substack) stack2 have the same IDs. This shouldn't be a problem as they're in different stacks. And over here I can flip between them and name them (using the message box) at will. How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Card Name space conflicts in the Rev IDE
Thanks for the help guys. It's not about creating new cards. It's what happens when one creates a new substack, and the automatic ID assignment of the first card in the new stack. I had been using the inspector to try to get there. That triangle below the lock that can reveal objects. click on stack2 use the inspector to see the first card. but it's the name that I called the first card in the first stack, I never can reveal card id 1002 of stack2 It's like the that function (the popup under lock) is looking at card IDs and not names for reference. I just tried navigation via the Application Browser, I now can see the names in the application browser and actually do the navigation there. And I have had this problem lately in tRev. But the navigation seems to be broken in the popup in the Inspector with regards to recognizing cards with the same ID. Should this be posted as a bug? - Stephen Barncard currently in Fairhope AL How are you creating new cards? How are you determining that you can't see the newly created cards? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
