Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-18 Thread Luis

You wash your darks at 40?!

On 17 Mar 2007, at 21:19, John Craig wrote:

My current flash drive got washed at 40 degrees when I accidentally  
left it in my jeans pocket - still seems to work perfectly, but be  
warned;
Like all flash memory devices, flash drives can sustain only a  
limited number of wash and rinse cycles before failure.



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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Roger . E . Eller
> The 2Gig drives are now $49 at CompUSA - two different companies.
> It's fast enough to write 44.1k stereo audio in real time.

You can even get an 8Gig drive for $79 at TigerDirect.com. It comes with 
excellent backup software for PC. This is not a U3 drive, so you don't 
have to use the included software. I have used it to backup all of my Rev 
stack files on my PC at the end of each day. It synchronizes to any 
folders I have configured, and does so very quickly. Currently, I 
reformatted it and have OS X installed on it (including Revolution and a 
few other apps) with 2Gig to spare. A MacPro can boot from USB drives as 
well as Firewire (not sure about other models). OMG! I have a pocket Mac! 
(almost anyway) lol

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2749424&sku=T555-1112

Roger Eller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Stephen Barncard

The 2Gig drives are now $49 at CompUSA - two different companies.
It's fast enough to write 44.1k stereo audio in real time.


You know, thumb drives are getting cheaper and cheaper. TigerDirect has
512MB models from Kingston and Memorex for $9.95, no rebate required. And a
PNY 128MB one for $4.99 after rebate. NewEgg has a 256 MB one for $6.99,
free 3-day shipping:

http://tinyurl.com/36xkbg

Would be easy enough to write a stack to determine how long a stick can
sustain constant writes and the performance curve of those writes.



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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Bill Marriott
You know, thumb drives are getting cheaper and cheaper. TigerDirect has 
512MB models from Kingston and Memorex for $9.95, no rebate required. And a 
PNY 128MB one for $4.99 after rebate. NewEgg has a 256 MB one for $6.99, 
free 3-day shipping:

http://tinyurl.com/36xkbg

Would be easy enough to write a stack to determine how long a stick can 
sustain constant writes and the performance curve of those writes. 



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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Stephen Barncard
That REVCON drive didn't work very well when I got it. I had to 
reformat right away. Also PC formatted drives on Macs seem to be a 
bad idea in general if you don't have to.



Recently, Chipp Walters wrote:


 I've used them from the beginning, and have yet to have one fail.


You know those thumb drives from the first RevCon?  ALL the data on the
drive I received became corrupt at some point, without my using it.  Just
popped it into a USB port one day, and while I could see all the files, non
would open or decompress.  I was able to reformat the drive, and it has
worked since, but the experience has made me a tiny bit leery of the
hardware.

Regards,

Scott Rossi


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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Jim Ault
A little poem flashed into my head...

Not to be trusted,
especially when rusted.


Jim Ault
Las Vegas

On 3/17/07 3:49 PM, "Scott Rossi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Recently, Chipp Walters wrote:
> 
>> I've used them from the beginning, and have yet to have one fail.
> 
> You know those thumb drives from the first RevCon?  ALL the data on the
> drive I received became corrupt at some point, without my using it.  Just
> popped it into a USB port one day, and while I could see all the files, non
> would open or decompress.  I was able to reformat the drive, and it has
> worked since, but the experience has made me a tiny bit leery of the
> hardware.


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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Chipp Walters wrote:

> I've used them from the beginning, and have yet to have one fail.

You know those thumb drives from the first RevCon?  ALL the data on the
drive I received became corrupt at some point, without my using it.  Just
popped it into a USB port one day, and while I could see all the files, non
would open or decompress.  I was able to reformat the drive, and it has
worked since, but the experience has made me a tiny bit leery of the
hardware.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
W: http://www.tactilemedia.com


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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> But if I encourage customers to run their stuff from the flash drive,
> I'll want to do so in a way that gives them some lifespan.  At a minimum
> this means turning off any auto-save features, or at least turning down
> the save interval over what we have in the desktop version.

Not the answer to your original question but how about encouraging initial
backup on the user's drive at first launch, or providing backup as an
automatic feature?

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design
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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Chipp Walters

Richard,

I've used them from the beginning, and have yet to have one fail. I keep one
or two in my pocket at all times. I suspect they're a bit like Plasma
screens. A lot of talk about the shelf-life, but when you actually figure
out how much you're using it, you see it will last for years and years.

-Chipp
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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread Richard Gaskin

John Craig wrote:
My current flash drive got washed at 40 degrees when I accidentally left 
it in my jeans pocket - still seems to work perfectly, but be warned;
Like all flash memory devices, flash drives can sustain only a limited 
number of wash and rinse cycles before failure.


I'll keep that in mind. :)

I haven't run that test myself, but I have run some durability tests: 
I've dropped mine many times while backpacking and hiking, watched it 
tumble over rocks, sand, and cactus, and this lightweight full-featured 
(yes, with voice recording -- sorry, Apple) unit just keeps on working 
like a champ.



My main interest in the original thread about writes was less about my 
own usage than the viability of delivering such devices with my app 
pre-installed to customers as a bundle.  I've found some great outlets 
that do custom logos and replication, and the prices are unbelievably 
low (sorry, Apple).


But if I encourage customers to run their stuff from the flash drive, 
I'll want to do so in a way that gives them some lifespan.  At a minimum 
this means turning off any auto-save features, or at least turning down 
the save interval over what we have in the desktop version.


If anyone here has had experiences with failing devices it would be good 
to know about to help determine the viability of such bundling.


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Re: Implications of limited wash to flash drives

2007-03-17 Thread John Craig
My current flash drive got washed at 40 degrees when I accidentally left 
it in my jeans pocket - still seems to work perfectly, but be warned;
Like all flash memory devices, flash drives can sustain only a limited 
number of wash and rinse cycles before failure.



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