Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) "save 60% on revStudio" deal
It is always a Faustian pact, using closed source software, especially when it is in rapid development. Rev is perfectly entitled to abandon the Media experiment. It was noble, but evidently it did not work out. I also think its treated the Studio buyers such as myself fairly, it was entitled to change the terms of renewal any time it wanted, and its done so. You pays your money and takes your choice. Python is out there, its free, it has an enormous variety of IDEs and editors, its thoroughly cross platform, and it has a thriving community and innumerable tutorials and textbooks and howtos. But, it is rather a steeper learning curve, depending on where you are coming from. It is really not much different from Hypercard, is it? It is someone else that owns it, and you have really no say in what happens to it. Do not, one might advise, get too dependent on it, unless you really know what you are getting into. The thing about Rev is that there is an inbuilt conflict of interest between two target markets, those who want to develop non-commercially, and need it to be cheap, and those who are successfully developing commercially, and can afford to pay decent fees. In the end, its going to be very hard to reconcile the two sets of needs. They have done their best with the mix and match pricing, but some bits have fallen by the wayside. Pity. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Free-RevMedia-tp2549087p2549166.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) "save 60% on revStudio" deal
On 09/21/2010 09:01 PM, Jerry Balzano wrote: With the sudden, unexpected release of LiveCode and disappearance of revStudio, revMedia, etc., I'm feeling a bit stung by the midsummer "deal" we were all offered (and I and others accepted) to "SAVE 60% on revSTUDIO". When I took this deal and paid the $99, I was led to expect a year's worth of complimentary upgrades to revStudio, not two month's worth of complimentary upgrades. Unless I'm mistaken, if I wish to "cross over" to LiveCode, it's now going to cost me an additional $98, or approximately 2/3 of the $149 I was "saving" with the midsummer revStudio "deal" I can't help but think now that this deal was offered, somewhat disingenuously, by RunRev, knowing that the product they were selling me was in effect going to be discontinued two months later? Is this rather underhanded manner of behavior any way to treat your longtime, faithful customers? (rhetorical question) "We want you to take the plunge and realize the benefits of Rev. Thats why we're making you a one time offer. Buy a revStudio license today for just $99 and save $150 We won't be repeating this offer any time soon." Indeed. - jerry balzano___ Indeed . . . Many attendees at the Edinburgh conference and subscribers to the DVD set had to wait donkey's ages for the DVDs. After some 'heckling' RunRev issued those who had not recieved their DVD sets with "extended licenses" that were "good" until September 4th . . . 'LiveCode' was released on September 19/20 (i.e. after September 4th) with a whole new way of putting in licenses. The "extended licenses" while serving to mollify a few did nothing else whatsoever: as no updates post RunRev 4.0 were forthcoming prior to 5th September. -- This kind of behaviour has happened before . . . Indeed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) "save 60% on revStudio" deal
Jerry- The way I understand things, your current license agreement stands. Nothing changes until its term is up. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: LiveCode 4.5 and the midsummer (2010) "save 60% on revStudio" deal
Actually, if I understand how this works, you still will get your full year of complimentary upgrades. They are honoring licenses that extend several years into the future. On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jerry Balzano wrote: > With the sudden, unexpected release of LiveCode and disappearance of > revStudio, revMedia, etc., I'm feeling a bit stung by the midsummer "deal" > we were all offered (and I and others accepted) to "SAVE 60% on revSTUDIO". > When I took this deal and paid the $99, I was led to expect a year's worth > of complimentary upgrades to revStudio, not two month's worth of > complimentary upgrades. Unless I'm mistaken, if I wish to "cross over" to > LiveCode, it's now going to cost me an additional $98, or approximately 2/3 > of the $149 I was "saving" with the midsummer revStudio "deal" > > I can't help but think now that this deal was offered, somewhat > disingenuously, by RunRev, knowing that the product they were selling me was > in effect going to be discontinued two months later? Is this rather > underhanded manner of behavior any way to treat your longtime, faithful > customers? (rhetorical question) > > "We want you to take the plunge and realize the benefits of Rev. Thats why > we're making you a one time offer. Buy a revStudio license today for just > $99 and save $150 We won't be repeating this offer any time soon." > > Indeed. > > - jerry balzano___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
