Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread Mark Talluto
You are right.  If your interest is to make an app to be sold in the iApp 
marketplace, then this is not for you.  

We just wanted to use the iPad hardware to run a product that does not rely on 
Apple to sell it for us.  It is an add-on to an already well established 
product in its marketplace.  It may be that this solution is helpful to a very 
small amount of developers.  If you are one of those that planned to develop on 
the iPad, be LAN connected, and did not need to sell through iTunes, then this 
may be good for you too.

We are situated in an environment where 99% of our users run our software on 
iMacs.  Our user base has strongly requested the software to run on the iPad.  
The software requires the vision testing system to be installed.  Our setup is 
such that this solution really works well for us.  We still have our netbook 
solution selling today and are interested in how the Android platform develops. 
 

Best regards,

Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com


On May 26, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> Interesting, but that's not Revolution stacks on an iPad. That's Revolution 
> stacks on a second monitor! :-)
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2010, at 1:57 AM, René Micout wrote:
> 
>> I think I find how use my RunRev applications on my iPad (only in my home... 
>> but for me it is wonderfull...)
>> I have not yet my iPad but in few days... I try it...
>> http://avatron.com/apps/air-display/
>> Bons souvenirs de Paris
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Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread René Micout
Yes, but a "touch" second screen.
Actually I work on a Wacom Cintiq, but with stylet, and for futures project I 
need my fingers...
I know there is restrictions but it is my own application, for me only.
I'll try it as soon as I received my iPad...

Le 26 mai 2010 à 18:12, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

> Interesting, but that's not Revolution stacks on an iPad. That's Revolution 
> stacks on a second monitor! :-)
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2010, at 1:57 AM, René Micout wrote:
> 
>> I think I find how use my RunRev applications on my iPad (only in my home... 
>> but for me it is wonderfull...)
>> I have not yet my iPad but in few days... I try it...
>> http://avatron.com/apps/air-display/
>> Bons souvenirs de Paris
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Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
Interesting, but that's not Revolution stacks on an iPad. That's Revolution 
stacks on a second monitor! :-)

Bob


On May 26, 2010, at 1:57 AM, René Micout wrote:

> I think I find how use my RunRev applications on my iPad (only in my home... 
> but for me it is wonderfull...)
> I have not yet my iPad but in few days... I try it...
> http://avatron.com/apps/air-display/
> Bons souvenirs de Paris
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Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread Mark Talluto
On May 26, 2010, at 7:36 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

> > I bought it and it works great!  It probably is using VNC under
> > the hood.  The speed is great.  I have not tried video yet.  But
> > the screen refresh is very quick and usable.  The mouse moves like
> > if it was connected via wire as a second monitor.  There is no
> > pinching as in VNC.  There is no virtual keyboard.  For our use
> > we could create one through the software we intend to run on the
> > device.  It does what it says it is supposed to do.  It turns your
> > iPad into a second monitor.  It costs $9.99.
> 
> That, and a second computer. :)


Our software is sold on a iMac as it is.  So the secondary app we develop would 
run on that computer.  The app we made is a remote control for our vision 
testing software.  The cool part is that a doctor's office of 6 exam rooms 
would install the software on only one computer.  The doctor would be able to 
control all the exam rooms with a single device do to our pairing feature and 
using a network.  It does everything as well as our netbook solution minus the 
video.  The video comes over at about 5-10 frames a second.  This was tested 
with a 720p animation from apples website.  We can still have our product auto 
update since it is a normal app running on a standard computer.  

This solution is not going to be for everyone.  It will only be useful to those 
that were going to need LAN connectivity anyways.  Apps that were designed to 
run in the field will still need a true iApp.  The other option is to go with 
Rodeo if you have WAN connectivity.

Citrix is coming out with a solution that lets one use a Win server to run apps 
on iPads.  The AirDisplay solution is a much more affordable, albeit simplified 
solution that will only work for certain apps.  I am sure the author of the app 
did not intend it to be used this way.  Maybe they will improve on it or make a 
new app that makes it do more of what the Citrix solution offers.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com
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Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mark Talluto wrote:

> On May 26, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Roger.E.Eller at sealedair.com wrote:
 René
>>
>> I believe this is just a repackaged VNC client (which is free).
>> You can get free VNC clients for every OS including Android
>> based phones, iPhone/iPod Touch, Mac, Win, Lin, and all types
>> of *nix. It can be useful as long as your virtual keyboard is
>> supported. Don't expect to be steaming video however, because
>> it is not designed for that. It should be fine for basic
>> interaction with a desktop 2D OS.
>
> I bought it and it works great!  It probably is using VNC under
> the hood.  The speed is great.  I have not tried video yet.  But
> the screen refresh is very quick and usable.  The mouse moves like
> if it was connected via wire as a second monitor.  There is no
> pinching as in VNC.  There is no virtual keyboard.  For our use
> we could create one through the software we intend to run on the
> device.  It does what it says it is supposed to do.  It turns your
> iPad into a second monitor.  It costs $9.99.

That, and a second computer. :)

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 Richard Gaskin
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Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread Mark Talluto

On May 26, 2010, at 6:52 AM, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
>>> René
> 
> I believe this is just a repackaged VNC client (which is free). You can get
> free VNC clients for every OS including Android based phones, iPhone/iPod
> Touch, Mac, Win, Lin, and all types of *nix. It can be useful as long as
> your virtual keyboard is supported. Don't expect to be steaming video
> however, because it is not designed for that. It should be fine for basic
> interaction with a desktop 2D OS.

I bought it and it works great!  It probably is using VNC under the hood.  The 
speed is great.  I have not tried video yet.  But the screen refresh is very 
quick and usable.  The mouse moves like if it was connected via wire as a 
second monitor.  There is no pinching as in VNC.  There is no virtual keyboard. 
 For our use we could create one through the software we intend to run on the 
device.  It does what it says it is supposed to do.  It turns your iPad into a 
second monitor.  It costs $9.99.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com





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Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread Roger . E . Eller
On 05/26/2010 at 09:39 AM, Mark Talluto wrote:
> This is amazing.  I think I have a use for that.  One could right an
> app in Rev and run it on the iPad.  We could possibly use this technology
> to run our remote control software that we had recently ove to tablet
PCs.
> I will get a copy of this software when they release it and report back.
> Thanks for posting this.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Talluto
> http://www.canelasoftware.com
>
>
> On May 26, 2010, at 1:57 AM, René Micout wrote:
>
>> I think I find how use my RunRev applications on my iPad (only in my
home... but for me it is wonderfull...)
>> I have not yet my iPad but in few days... I try it...
>> http://avatron.com/apps/air-display/
>> Bons souvenirs de Paris
>> René

I believe this is just a repackaged VNC client (which is free). You can get
free VNC clients for every OS including Android based phones, iPhone/iPod
Touch, Mac, Win, Lin, and all types of *nix. It can be useful as long as
your virtual keyboard is supported. Don't expect to be steaming video
however, because it is not designed for that. It should be fine for basic
interaction with a desktop 2D OS.

~Roger Eller


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Re: RunRev on iPad (New)

2010-05-26 Thread Mark Talluto
This is amazing.  I think I have a use for that.  One could right an app in Rev 
and run it on the iPad.  We could possibly use this technology to run our 
remote control software that we had recently ove to tablet PCs.  I will get a 
copy of this software when they release it and report back.  Thanks for posting 
this.

Best regards,

Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com



On May 26, 2010, at 1:57 AM, René Micout wrote:

> I think I find how use my RunRev applications on my iPad (only in my home... 
> but for me it is wonderfull...)
> I have not yet my iPad but in few days... I try it...
> http://avatron.com/apps/air-display/
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