RE: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Why not write a networking protocol that resembles scripting in Rev? Make a library of it requestsendfiletohost hostip,filepath sendfile cancelfilesend receivefile etc... (dont limit it to sendstack...) and it's not even complicated actually!!! PC1 wait for call c on port p validateuser/data = get file from me (pc2) with this id go stack url pc2ipaddress:p or read from socket url blabla to url (file:thisfilepath) PC2 send call get file from me... to pc1ipaddress open socket on port p with message sendfile to pc2 whatever... on sendfile x write to socket p url (file:x) to pc2ipaddress end sendfile just off my head but it should work like a charm. There's a full example Or the taoo way, all we need is: 1 stack in the backscript/stackinuse (the network manager) to monitor network traffic or establish the connections. Much like I've seen with the revChat stack. but as a library with a protocol language to exchange files, scripts, information or objects in xml, etcml formats. Naturally there will be issues as threading is still a dream in RunRev but it allows the following doors to open if listening on multiple ports is not viable: Use multiple instances of RunRev to communicate across different ports with 1 or more portlistening runrev-instances. Transfer stacks to them to make remote/distributed execution or send remote scripts/data (synchronicity and security is an issue without or without threading). But i think i got a quick solution for that - the roundrobin heartbeat method as it is known in clusters. Im certainly on this path at work (large server farm multi-site LAN/SAN/NAS/WAN environment) to manage different servers without any NT tools to depend on (they tend to break/change parameters depending on windows versions). Although with windows base networking, transfering files across the network is a simple as get shell(robocopy \\server1\driveletterorsharename[$]\filepath.fileext \ \\server2\driveletterorsharename[$]\filepath.fileext \ myoptionswitcheswhichvaries[situationcontext]) xcopy, scopy, robocopy, xxxcopy (the best - 10 pages of switches for all occasions - i have plans one day to write an interface for it for synchronized copies but Robocopy has done the job so far.). One other thing to know is regarding extra long file paths. Most copy programs will choke and abort that file. It's good to keep logs. For extra long file path xxxcopy or subst.exe (Net use only maps the share's root, subst can mount as a drive any path in a shared resource.) Using file sharing is so much simpler than with net use Franz. Although there's performance hits depending on how you copy from where to where. If you copy from server a to server c via server b (in rdp - terminal service remote desktop p?) there will be a cached copy from a to b to c... Things to know... As you see, a one liner suffices for any occasion. And all this i already have in an NTResKit library stack that handles multiple shares, files, security and audit settings or permissions, log errors parsing (and fixing), user-editing, etc etc etc that NT domain admins do. Not free! But there's a couple simple examples on MonsieurX.com. I've done all of it in MC with shell calls - never the RevTools. Having to delete around 50GBs of files here and there using rev is unthinkeable... And it doesn't support unc file paths //servername/share. Would this solve all our problems? Send script to stack on //PCServer I dont want to write externals because someone already wrote the wheel using shell tools which i can launch and forget! (actually not a good idea to forget unless you're sure nothing iwll break down in between - which happens all the time!) But for rev-networking, like the libURL code we enjoy so much, there's lots of benefits to have it built in rather than use external tools. For example, if the shell program stalls or awaits an answer, rev doesn't know what to do... (besides the fact that your shell(start...) because that too can fail (the directory being set for a non existent folder or drive letter for example! And there is still no timeout for any commands unless you trick Rev to do so with a second instance of Rev that kills the first one if it stops responding - round-robin cluster technique for better availability (google it). Also, some shells require interactive messages and we can't do that that I know (like writting to the args[] or typing text into the shell (like the message!). Net use can block you this way btw if a password is required... Know your switches! All it takes is a little scratching to see all the problems and limits in RunRev's current engine in this particular field. But i'll be experimenting with that soon. We'll see: SendObject hostobject, ascriptobject, returnmessageandparametersinforequiredobject In terms of long-term reliability, relying on other programs can create issues of incompatibility with parameters or output which are also out of your control but it does save a lot
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´m new to all this Networking stuff, so please be patient. ;-) What I want to do is create a set of folders and files on another computer connected to a small LAN. How do I go about this? I configured my router to assign a static IP to one of the computers (running OsX). I now can get files from library/webserver by using get URL http://staticIPAdd/test.txt; but I can´t use put blah into URL http://staticIP/test.txt; -Error 405 Method not allowed How do I go about this? How can I write text to a file on the other machine? Can I write to a different folderthan library/webserver? Thanks a lot! There are lots of options probably too many :-) 1. Change your webserver to allow http put operations. Most webservers disallow this, and will default to disallowing it, but you can change the config to allow it. It's generally disallowed because it opens a security hole by allowing other people to write to your webserver - but if this server is simply serving an internal network for some app, not open to the wide, dangerous, world that could be OK. Google for xxx allow http put where xxx is your webserver, and you'll find instructions - especially if xxx == Apache. 2. Export and mount files systems, and access them through that. 3. Run a FTP server on the server, and use put URL ftp://; etc. and many, many others. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.2 - Release Date: 02/05/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Hi Malte, I would recommend creating a shared folder on the 'networked' drive, then trying to 'drag/drop' a file from your computer to it to make sure it works. If it does, then you can map it to a drive letter, and simply use the put URL form: put URL file:C:/test.txt into URL file:X:/test.txt HTH, Chipp Malte Brill wrote: Hi list, I´m new to all this Networking stuff, so please be patient. ;-) What I want to do is create a set of folders and files on another computer connected to a small LAN. How do I go about this? I configured my router to assign a static IP to one of the computers (running OsX). I now can get files from library/webserver by using ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Hi Chipp, Franz, Alex and all! Thanks for your replys. Even though the tips for Win are useful they don´t really help at the moment, as I need to use a Mac with OsX. I´ll bookmark them anyway, just in case. ;-) The suggestion by Alex to set up FTP sounds good, but I have no idea how to do it. A quick goole search leads me to nowhere. Anyone an idea/link to a tutorial on how to set up an FTP server on Mac Os X? Thanks, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Ok folks, I´m dumb. system preferences-Sharing-check ftp Thanks Björnke! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Thanks for your replys. Even though the tips for Win are useful they don´t really help at the moment, as I need to use a Mac with OsX. I´ll bookmark them anyway, just in case. ;-) The suggestion by Alex to set up FTP sounds good, but I have no idea how to do it. A quick goole search leads me to nowhere. Anyone an idea/link to a tutorial on how to set up an FTP server on Mac Os X? Setting up an FTP server on Mac OS X is really complicated... Go to the sharing system prefs and check FTP Access :-) Take a note of the address that is then shown at the bottom of the window and that's what you can use to log in. However, I just use personal file sharing, with a Rev script like this using AppleScript to connect: tAddress is the IP address of the remote computer tUser is the name of a valid user on that remote computer who is allowed to log in tPass is their password put mount volume quote afp:// tAddress / tUser quote \ on server quote tAddress quote as user name \ quote tUser quote with password quote tPass quote into tScript do tScript as AppleScript Once you have done this, the remote computer's user folder appears on your desktop as an external drive and you can read write using the URL commands. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
Thanks Sarah! (Did I mention I am dumb before? g) I like the applescript variant. This will simplify things a lot... Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Writing a file to another computer on the LAN?
At 1:38 AM +0200 5/5/05, Malte Brill wrote: Anyone an idea/link to a tutorial on how to set up an FTP server on Mac Os X? Google using setting up ftp server on OS X gave me the following: http://www.creativemac.com/2002/09_sep/tutorials/ftposx0209242.htm http://www.atpm.com/8.12/networking.shtml http://home.earthlink.net/~dgreuel/howto.html hth sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
