Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
Jim Lambert wrote: Switching the DNS setting so that a site can live on different servers is straightforward. But what happens with mailservers if I want to move a domain that also has email from one ISP to another? Say, to on-rev? Jim Lambert on-rev hosting includes mail hosting of course, and it would be fine for many purposes. But it might be a problem if you want to host a domain's website at on-rev, while hosting email elsewhere (perhaps because there is an established in-house mail server for instance). on-rev uses cpanel to control your hosted domains, and while I've only had a couple of days to look it over and I'm not yet familiar with it, it seems to insist that you delegate the nameservers to on-rev before it will let you add a domain, but at the same time it allows no access to individual DNS records for the domain. So if you were used to a set-up where web hosting and mail hosting are run in separate places (as you seem to be asking about), by controlling the individual DNS records yourself, it might not be feasible to use on-rev, although you could ask the management to make an exception for you probably. I hope to be corrected if anyone knows better. However, if you were happy to move both web and mail hosting to on-rev, you should be able to do that, providing you don't mind setting it up from scratch, and you don't have any configuration which isn't supported by the cpanel setup. There is also, as far as I can tell, no way to give a customer access to manage their own email. That's fine for some customers, but I have several customers who wouldn't accept that situation as they have quite frequent email changes to numerous addresses. Also, to be honest, I personally have better things to do with my time than manage their email forwarding and autoresponders and so on for them on a daily basis. Martin Baxter -- I am Not a Number, I am a free NaN ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
Hi Colin, i have already moved 2 domains to on-rev. More will follow. On was registered at Godaddy. For that domain i just changed which nameservers are responsible for that domain. So i entered ns1.on-rev and ns2.on-rev. The other domain was registered at a german ISP. So therefore i had to ask my ISP to change this settings for me. Both domains now are available directly accessible without seeing urls like mydomain.on-rev.com. I have two domains, and both are now set for not forwarding, and with the nameservers the same. Everything at godaddy and on-rev are the same settings for both urls, but one keeps the url, and the other changes it to the on-rev version. That is strange and not typically. One think what i could imagine is the following. Nameserverchanges could take up to 24 - 48 hrs until all nameservers get that information worldwide. So maybe it take a while, until the correct setting is available for all nameservers. You can try the following to see, if the nameservers of on-rev work correct for your domain. In you networksetting of your pc/mac change the dns/nameserver settings to 74.54.153.74 and 74.54.153.75. These are the on-rev nameservers. Then try to connect your domain with your browser. Does the url change? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
On Apr 18, 2009, at 5:10 PM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: In you networksetting of your pc/mac change the dns/nameserver settings to 74.54.153.74 and 74.54.153.75. These are the on-rev nameservers. Then try to connect your domain with your browser. Does the url change? Thanks for the ideas, but all is well now! Strangely, one of the urls updated within a couple of minutes, the other one took a couple of hours. Both are good now though. Thanks again, to Bill too. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
Recently, Colin Holgate wrote: In you networksetting of your pc/mac change the dns/nameserver settings to 74.54.153.74 and 74.54.153.75. These are the on-rev nameservers. Then try to connect your domain with your browser. Does the url change? Thanks for the ideas, but all is well now! Strangely, one of the urls updated within a couple of minutes, the other one took a couple of hours. Both are good now though. I believe you're generally supposed to allow 24 to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate throughout the Internet. If changes don't show up after that time, it's probably worth contacting your ISP. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
Recently, I wrote: I believe you're generally supposed to allow 24 to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate throughout the Internet. If changes don't show up after that time, it's probably worth contacting your ISP. Make that registrar, not ISP. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
On Apr 18, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I believe you're generally supposed to allow 24 to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate throughout the Internet. It's the weekend, so it managed it a couple of hours. It was just odd that the second one took 60 times longer than the first one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
Switching the DNS setting so that a site can live on different servers is straightforward. But what happens with mailservers if I want to move a domain that also has email from one ISP to another? Say, to on-rev? Jim Lambert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Re-2: [OT] on-rev urls
On Apr 18, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Apr 18, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I believe you're generally supposed to allow 24 to 48 hours for DNS changes to propagate throughout the Internet. It's the weekend, so it managed it a couple of hours. It was just odd that the second one took 60 times longer than the first one. Actually, there are thousands of name servers around the world that need to be updated so that everyone can find your new installation. Some servers do the automatic update sooner than others. When I type in a readable url (eg. www.google.com), my name server is right here in Vegas, so I can only see urls that they have cataloged on THAT server. The name lookup is how the IP address is located in order to make the connection to a hosted site. When you see the word 'propagation', it means that every ISP eventually updates their name servers so that your change becomes world-wide. This may be why a collaborator you are working with may not see the domain change at the same time you do. All should be well after 48 hours, otherwise their could be a glitch in the lookup table that you need to report. Your ISP can help you with this. Hope this helps. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
