Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-20 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 20/05/2010 07:31, Geoff Canyon Rev wrote:

HyperNext is hardly developed by 1 person. It is based on REALbasic,
using RB's scripting language as its programming language. So the fact
that it can play multiple sounds, run on multiple platforms, etc.,
comes courtesy of the hard work of the team at REAL Software.

It would be about the same as giving Ken Ray credit for the amazing
graphics capabilities of stackrunner (no offense, Ken).

gc



Fair point!


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Richmond Mathewson
richmondmathew...@gmail.com  wrote:

  http://www.tigabyte.com/docs/LanguageReference.pdf

There are five dedicated sound channels and any sound
or music file must be allocated to a channel.

The idea of having sound channels so that 2 or more sounds can
be played simultaneously comes up here from time to time; but
never seems to get anywhere.

Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
sound channels while . . . .  ?


What I do not understand (and I have asked this before) is why, if
so many languages/IDEs/RADs have sound channels (my BBC has
sound channels in its hardwired BBC BASIC), it seems to be such a
sticking point every time I mention it the possibility re RunRev.

Plying 2 sounds simultaneously in RunRev is a no-no; and the
addition of sound channels would be a significanr addition.
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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-20 Thread René Micout
More ! to make chords 7 is better !
René

Le 20 mai 2010 à 13:36, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

 Plying 2 sounds simultaneously in RunRev is a no-no; and the
 addition of sound channels would be a significanr addition.

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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-19 Thread René Micout
Good idea Tereza ! But the other also !
:-)
René

Le 19 mai 2010 à 02:35, Tereza Snyder a écrit :

 but if I really had a month's paid vacation I'd go to France instead!

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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote:

I'll say it again:  Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it.

Judy



And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the
fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay
that way . . . .


On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
sound channels while . . . .  ?

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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-19 Thread René Micout
Hello Richmond,
Bill Atkinson and Dan Winkler are the Scott Raney's Granddad ! No ?
But Scott moved the Bill's and Dan's shoes...
I agree with you  It is necessary to move Scott's shoes !
And quickly !
;-)
Bon souvenir de Paris et de nos anciennes discussions...
René

Le 19 mai 2010 à 10:40, Richmond Mathewson a écrit :

 On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote:
 I'll say it again:  Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it.
 
 Judy
 
 
 And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the
 fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay
 that way . . . .
 
 On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
 
 Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
 sound channels while . . . .  ?
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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Jimmieson

On 19 May 2010, at 09:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

  On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote:
 I'll say it again:  Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it.
 
 Judy
 
 
 And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the
 fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay
 that way . . . .

Probably more like not adding a basement to Grandad's house even though he's 
been dead for 25 years...

 
 On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
 
 Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
 sound channels while . . . .  ?
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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-19 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Wait a minute, Who died? Grandpa has been dead for four years now and we sold 
his house soon after.

Tom McGrath III
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On May 19, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Phil Jimmieson wrote:

 
 On 19 May 2010, at 09:40, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
 
 On 19/05/2010 02:36, Judy Perry wrote:
 I'll say it again:  Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it.
 
 Judy
 
 
 And, rather like not moving Granddad's shoes from their place by the
 fireplace even though he has been dead for 25 years, it has to stay
 that way . . . .
 
 Probably more like not adding a basement to Grandad's house even though he's 
 been dead for 25 years...
 
 
 On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
 
 Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
 sound channels while . . . .  ?
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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-19 Thread Geoff Canyon Rev
HyperNext is hardly developed by 1 person. It is based on REALbasic,
using RB's scripting language as its programming language. So the fact
that it can play multiple sounds, run on multiple platforms, etc.,
comes courtesy of the hard work of the team at REAL Software.

It would be about the same as giving Ken Ray credit for the amazing
graphics capabilities of stackrunner (no offense, Ken).

gc

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Richmond Mathewson
richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://www.tigabyte.com/docs/LanguageReference.pdf

 There are five dedicated sound channels and any sound
 or music file must be allocated to a channel.

 The idea of having sound channels so that 2 or more sounds can
 be played simultaneously comes up here from time to time; but
 never seems to get anywhere.

 Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
 sound channels while . . . .  ?
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Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-18 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 http://www.tigabyte.com/docs/LanguageReference.pdf

There are five dedicated sound channels and any sound
or music file must be allocated to a channel.

The idea of having sound channels so that 2 or more sounds can
be played simultaneously comes up here from time to time; but
never seems to get anywhere.

Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
sound channels while . . . .  ?
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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-18 Thread Judy Perry

I'll say it again:  Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it.

Judy

On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:


Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
sound channels while . . . .  ?

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Re: Reading the HyperNext manual #1

2010-05-18 Thread Tereza Snyder

On May 18, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Judy Perry wrote:

 I'll say it again:  Because Scott Raney didn't want to do it.
 
 Judy
 
 On Tue, 18 May 2010, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
 
 Now how is it that a RAD developed by 1 person can manage
 sound channels while . . . .  ?


That's right. It turns out to be non-trivial. When I was programming in C I 
wrote--ahem, I adapted--a cross-platform multi-channel sound library (for Mac 
OS 9  Windows 95). It was exacting and confusing because the two platforms had 
very different approaches to sound production. A couple of years ago, I sat 
down to write an external for RunRev but ran out of both funds and time. If I 
had a month of paid vacation--and nothing better to do--I might tackle it again 
for the challenge, but if I really had a month's paid vacation I'd go to France 
instead!


t


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