Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-06-02 Thread Roger Amar
> Do you have a script that sets the stack's height? Maybe there's an error.
I dont have.
This problem occurs with the r1 version too.
I can't beleive it, but I it is a fact !
I can send you the stack (converted from Supercard a while ago).
Roger;


1/06/03 6:25, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote recently :

> At 2:57PM -0700 5/30/03, Roger Amar wrote:
>> I'm working on a stack sizing 640x480.
>> When I go to last card of my stack, it is out of screen and the height of it
>> is 64738. Then I go back to cd 1 which the height is now 1758 !!
>> If I set the height of it to 480 and go back last card, I find a height of
>> 64738 !
> 
> Do you have a script that sets the stack's height? Maybe there's an error.
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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-06-01 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 2:57PM -0700 5/30/03, Roger Amar wrote:
>I'm working on a stack sizing 640x480.
>When I go to last card of my stack, it is out of screen and the height of it
>is 64738. Then I go back to cd 1 which the height is now 1758 !!
>If I set the height of it to 480 and go back last card, I find a height of
>64738 !

Do you have a script that sets the stack's height? Maybe there's an error.

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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-31 Thread Roger Amar
Sorry, my message was sent unfinished...

I have the same problem with a terrific variant :
(MacOS 9.2.1)
I'm working on a stack sizing 640x480.
When I go to last card of my stack, it is out of screen and the height of it
is 64738. Then I go back to cd 1 which the height is now 1758 !!
If I set the height of it to 480 and go back last card, I find a height of
64738 !
The deletion of the cRevGeneral prop with the script below does nothing.
No virus, no problem with other apps.

What do you think about, Jeanne ?

Roger;


30/05/03 20:13, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote recently :

> At 9:24 AM -0700 5/30/03, Devin Asay wrote:
>> Upon opening an affected stack, any time you open or close a
>> window--script editor, stack, message box, answer dialog-- the CPU
>> usage pegs out at 100% until you press Cmd-period. Then you're okay
>> until the next window open/close event. The condition persists even
>> after closing the stack, then creating a new stack--you get the same
>> CPU pegging out effect. But if you quit Rev and launch again, then
>> create a new stack the effect doesn't occur. Using an earlier version
>> of this same stack (about two weeks old) I don't get this effect. This
>> stack was developed entirely in Rev 2.0 betas and rc's.
> 
> This appears to be the same problem, which is a problem with the
> debugObjects custom property in cRevGeneral.
> 
> As a workaround until this can be addressed, here's a more fine-tuned
> method of removing the offending property (which doesn't require you to
> open the stack in 1.1.1). Enter this into the multi-line message box mode,
> or in a button:
> 
> answer file "Open which stack?"
> put it into myStack
> lock messages
> open stack myStack
> get the customKeys["cRevGeneral"] of stack myStack
> set the wholeMatches to true
> delete line lineOffset("debugObjects",it) of it
> set the customKeys["cRevGeneral"] of stack myStack to it
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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-31 Thread Roger Amar
I have the same problem with a terrific variant :
MacOS 9.2.1

When I go to last card of my stack, it is out of screen and the stack height
is 64738. Then I go back to cd 1 which the height is now 1758 !!
If I set the height of it to 480 and go back last card,

30/05/03 20:13, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote recently :

> At 9:24 AM -0700 5/30/03, Devin Asay wrote:
>> Upon opening an affected stack, any time you open or close a
>> window--script editor, stack, message box, answer dialog-- the CPU
>> usage pegs out at 100% until you press Cmd-period. Then you're okay
>> until the next window open/close event. The condition persists even
>> after closing the stack, then creating a new stack--you get the same
>> CPU pegging out effect. But if you quit Rev and launch again, then
>> create a new stack the effect doesn't occur. Using an earlier version
>> of this same stack (about two weeks old) I don't get this effect. This
>> stack was developed entirely in Rev 2.0 betas and rc's.
> 
> This appears to be the same problem, which is a problem with the
> debugObjects custom property in cRevGeneral.
> 
> As a workaround until this can be addressed, here's a more fine-tuned
> method of removing the offending property (which doesn't require you to
> open the stack in 1.1.1). Enter this into the multi-line message box mode,
> or in a button:
> 
> answer file "Open which stack?"
> put it into myStack
> lock messages
> open stack myStack
> get the customKeys["cRevGeneral"] of stack myStack
> set the wholeMatches to true
> delete line lineOffset("debugObjects",it) of it
> set the customKeys["cRevGeneral"] of stack myStack to it
> 
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RE: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-31 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 9:24 AM -0700 5/30/03, Devin Asay wrote:
>Upon opening an affected stack, any time you open or close a
>window--script editor, stack, message box, answer dialog-- the CPU
>usage pegs out at 100% until you press Cmd-period. Then you're okay
>until the next window open/close event. The condition persists even
>after closing the stack, then creating a new stack--you get the same
>CPU pegging out effect. But if you quit Rev and launch again, then
>create a new stack the effect doesn't occur. Using an earlier version
>of this same stack (about two weeks old) I don't get this effect. This
>stack was developed entirely in Rev 2.0 betas and rc's.

This appears to be the same problem, which is a problem with the
debugObjects custom property in cRevGeneral.

As a workaround until this can be addressed, here's a more fine-tuned
method of removing the offending property (which doesn't require you to
open the stack in 1.1.1). Enter this into the multi-line message box mode,
or in a button:

  answer file "Open which stack?"
  put it into myStack
  lock messages
  open stack myStack
  get the customKeys["cRevGeneral"] of stack myStack
  set the wholeMatches to true
  delete line lineOffset("debugObjects",it) of it
  set the customKeys["cRevGeneral"] of stack myStack to it

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RE: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-31 Thread Devin Asay
Sorry for the cross-posting, but this is potentially a serious issue 
with the new 2.0r2 release:

I've experienced this same problem, just today. Oddly enough, even 
though I was working on the same stack yesterday in v. 2.0r2 it didn't 
happen then. I have sent Jeanne a copy of the stack as she requested, 
as well as sending a copy to the runrev folks.

These are the symptoms as far as I can determine (I'm on a Mac G4/500 
with OS X 10.2.6):

Upon opening an affected stack, any time you open or close a 
window--script editor, stack, message box, answer dialog-- the CPU 
usage pegs out at 100% until you press Cmd-period. Then you're okay 
until the next window open/close event. The condition persists even 
after closing the stack, then creating a new stack--you get the same 
CPU pegging out effect. But if you quit Rev and launch again, then 
create a new stack the effect doesn't occur. Using an earlier version 
of this same stack (about two weeks old) I don't get this effect. This 
stack was developed entirely in Rev 2.0 betas and rc's.

Let's try to get to the bottom of this one quickly. I'd rather not go 
about deleting the cRevGeneral custom property set in my stacks if I 
can help it. If anyone can help identify when this effect is triggered, 
I'm sure it'll speed up the process of tracking it down.

Thanks.

Devin

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Humanities Technology and Research Support Center
Brigham Young University
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RE: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-30 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 5:01 AM -0700 5/29/03, Ivers, Doug E wrote:
>I had the same bizarre problem and removing the prop set cRevGeneral
>resolved it.  Can someone shed some light on what's going on?  Why would
>this cause so much cpu activity?  Will I have to delete cRevGeneral from
>all my existing stacks?

You shouldn't remove it except as an emergency measure, when there's a
problem you can't resolve any other way. (The cRevGeneral custom property
set contains things like the style information for an object's script.)

Can someone who's had this problem send me a copy of the stack that causes
it? There's something I want to try. Thanks

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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-30 Thread sims
 >
 > If  cREVGeneral is the only one you have you can get
 rid
 of it by using:
 > set the customPropertySets of this stack to empty
so, If  cREVGeneral is the ONLY one you have listed, then
you should not get rid of it by setting the customPropertySets of 
this stack to empty?



sims

DON'T DO THIS !!!  You'll remove _all_ the custom
properties, including the ones you may have used
yourself.
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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-30 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This sounds like the same problem I've been having.
> >But I've experienced it on Windows.  Only problem
> is,
> >when I open my stack in 1.1.1, I don't see a
> >cREVGeneral custom property set.  Can I access it
> some
> >other way?  Please help.
> 
> Try:
> 
> put the customPropertySets of this stack
> 
> If  cREVGeneral is the only one you have you can get
> rid
> of it by using:
> 
> set the customPropertySets of this stack to empty
> 
> sims
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DON'T DO THIS !!!  You'll remove _all_ the custom
properties, including the ones you may have used
yourself.
Go to the 'Properties' palette, click on the 'Custom'
tab ; click on the checkbox 'Show Revolution UI Custom
Properties' to show 'cREVGeneral' and any other custom
property sets managed by Revolution.

Some of the things stored in the cREVGeneral set :
- REVUniqueID : a unique ID, which is among other
things used in the geometry manager -- though it will
assign a new one if you delete tat particular cusrom
property
- bookmarks, handlerlist, tempScript, script : used by
the script editor to store your bookmarks, handler
names, text colouring and styling

Other cREV~ custom property sets contain information
for the geometry manager, for the database access and
table functions in version 2.0, etc.
So wiping this information can produce frustration.

Here's a tip for removing a specific custom property
set in its entirety from the selected object :
  put the customPropertySets of the selectedObject \
  into tCPSets
  set the wholeMatches to true
  delete line lineOffset("cREVGeneral",tCPSets) \
  of tCPSets
  set the customPropertySets of the selectedObject \
  to tCPSets

Hope this helped,

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RE: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-30 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thank you.  That did it.

--- "Ivers, Doug E" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, open the stack in Rev.1.1.1, then look for a
> checkbox at the bottom of the properties inspector. 
> When you check the box, you'll see the cRevGeneral
> prop set.  Delete it.
> 
> Rev folks:  Why/how does this cause a problem for
> Rev2?  Are there no side-effect ramifications to
> deleting cRevGeneral?  Why does it exist at all?
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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-30 Thread sims
This sounds like the same problem I've been having.
But I've experienced it on Windows.  Only problem is,
when I open my stack in 1.1.1, I don't see a
cREVGeneral custom property set.  Can I access it some
other way?  Please help.
Try:

put the customPropertySets of this stack

If  cREVGeneral is the only one you have you can get rid
of it by using:
set the customPropertySets of this stack to empty

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RE: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-30 Thread Ivers, Doug E
First, open the stack in Rev.1.1.1, then look for a checkbox at the bottom of the 
properties inspector.  When you check the box, you'll see the cRevGeneral prop set.  
Delete it.

Rev folks:  Why/how does this cause a problem for Rev2?  Are there no side-effect 
ramifications to deleting cRevGeneral?  Why does it exist at all?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Sheffield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:26 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 
> 100% - Part
> 2
> 
> 
> This sounds like the same problem I've been having. 
> But I've experienced it on Windows.  Only problem is,
> when I open my stack in 1.1.1, I don't see a
> cREVGeneral custom property set.  Can I access it some
> other way?  Please help.
> 
> Chris Sheffield
> 
> --- "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote:
> > >>> So the saga continues.  I re installed version
> > 1.1.1 and opened the
> > >>> stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well
> > behaved as is revolution
> > >>> 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening
> > the stack was
> > >>> enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%.
> > 
> > >I don't think that's the problem.  I have emptied
> > my stack of all its
> > >scripts and now when I try opening the stack
> > script, the cpu usage shoots to
> > >100% and sits there until I depress cmd period. 
> > Then when I close the
> > >script window, Rev asks whether to change the
> > scripts ( but nothing was
> > >added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it
> > goes to 100 %, Cmd period
> > >again and the script window closes.
> > 
> > This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if
> > you remove the
> > cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in
> > 1.1.1) and then open it
> > in 2.0?
> > 
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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-30 Thread Chris Sheffield
This sounds like the same problem I've been having. 
But I've experienced it on Windows.  Only problem is,
when I open my stack in 1.1.1, I don't see a
cREVGeneral custom property set.  Can I access it some
other way?  Please help.

Chris Sheffield

--- "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote:
> >>> So the saga continues.  I re installed version
> 1.1.1 and opened the
> >>> stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well
> behaved as is revolution
> >>> 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening
> the stack was
> >>> enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%.
> 
> >I don't think that's the problem.  I have emptied
> my stack of all its
> >scripts and now when I try opening the stack
> script, the cpu usage shoots to
> >100% and sits there until I depress cmd period. 
> Then when I close the
> >script window, Rev asks whether to change the
> scripts ( but nothing was
> >added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it
> goes to 100 %, Cmd period
> >again and the script window closes.
> 
> This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if
> you remove the
> cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in
> 1.1.1) and then open it
> in 2.0?
> 
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RE: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-29 Thread Ivers, Doug E
I had the same bizarre problem and removing the prop set cRevGeneral resolved it.  Can 
someone shed some light on what's going on?  Why would this cause so much cpu 
activity?  Will I have to delete cRevGeneral from all my existing stacks?

Mac OSX 10.2.5 on powerbook g4 667 dvi


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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:47 PM
> To: Revolution
> Subject: Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 
> 100% - Part
> 2
> 
> 
> On 5/28/03 7:56 PM, "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote:
> >>>> So the saga continues.  I re installed version 1.1.1 and 
> opened the
> >>>> stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as 
> is revolution
> >>>> 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was
> >>>> enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%.
> > 
> >> I don't think that's the problem.  I have emptied my stack 
> of all its
> >> scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the 
> cpu usage shoots to
> >> 100% and sits there until I depress cmd period.  Then when 
> I close the
> >> script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( 
> but nothing was
> >> added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 
> 100 %, Cmd period
> >> again and the script window closes.
> > 
> > This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if you remove the
> > cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in 1.1.1) 
> and then open it
> > in 2.0?
> > 
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> Thanks you, thank you, thank you, you saved me hours.  I went 
> into Rev 1.1.1
> and deleted it ( odd that it does not appear in Rev 2.0 ) and 
> loaded it back
> into Rev 2.0, it works.
> 
> Boy, this is one you will want to make sure that everyone knows about.
> 
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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-29 Thread Dave McKee
On 5/28/03 7:56 PM, "Jeanne A. E. DeVoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote:
 So the saga continues.  I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the
 stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution
 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was
 enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%.
> 
>> I don't think that's the problem.  I have emptied my stack of all its
>> scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the cpu usage shoots to
>> 100% and sits there until I depress cmd period.  Then when I close the
>> script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( but nothing was
>> added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 100 %, Cmd period
>> again and the script window closes.
> 
> This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if you remove the
> cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in 1.1.1) and then open it
> in 2.0?
> 
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Thanks you, thank you, thank you, you saved me hours.  I went into Rev 1.1.1
and deleted it ( odd that it does not appear in Rev 2.0 ) and loaded it back
into Rev 2.0, it works.

Boy, this is one you will want to make sure that everyone knows about.

Again thanks

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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-29 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote:
>>> So the saga continues.  I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the
>>> stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution
>>> 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was
>>> enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%.

>I don't think that's the problem.  I have emptied my stack of all its
>scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the cpu usage shoots to
>100% and sits there until I depress cmd period.  Then when I close the
>script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( but nothing was
>added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 100 %, Cmd period
>again and the script window closes.

This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if you remove the
cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in 1.1.1) and then open it
in 2.0?

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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-29 Thread Dave McKee
On 5/28/03 7:22 PM, "Mark Talluto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 05:47 PM, Dave McKee wrote:
> 
>> So the saga continues.  I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the
>> stack
>> with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1.
>> Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg
>> the
>> cpu usage at 100%.  Using cmd period to stop this behaviour works and
>> then
>> just opening the main stack's script is enough to peg cpu usage at 100%
>> again.
> 
> 
> If you have a default button active on the screen, that will eat up a
> lot of cpu power.  It is not Revs fault, but Apples.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Mark Talluto
> http://www.canelasoftware.com
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I don't think that¹s the problem.  I have emptied my stack of all its
scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the cpu usage shoots to
100% and sits there until I depress cmd period.  Then when I close the
script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( but nothing was
added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 100 %, Cmd period
again and the script window closes.

And this same stack with all of its scripts works fine in Rev 1.1.1.  In
fact, the same stack worked ok in the last release of Rev 2.0 ( 2.0rc2 ).
Something nasty has happened, not sure if its my stack ( unlikely because it
functions ok in rev 1.1.1 ) or Rev 2.0

Its getting frustrating trying to track down what this problem is, so why do
I get the feeling that I will have to recreate the stack from scratch before
it will run in Rev 2.0 ( did not expect this sort of problem )

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Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-29 Thread Mark Talluto
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 05:47 PM, Dave McKee wrote:

So the saga continues.  I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the 
stack
with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1.
Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg 
the
cpu usage at 100%.  Using cmd period to stop this behaviour works and 
then
just opening the main stack's script is enough to peg cpu usage at 100%
again.


If you have a default button active on the screen, that will eat up a 
lot of cpu power.  It is not Revs fault, but Apples.



Best regards,
Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com
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Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2

2003-05-29 Thread Dave McKee
So the saga continues.  I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the stack
with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1.
Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg the
cpu usage at 100%.  Using cmd period to stop this behaviour works and then
just opening the main stack's script is enough to peg cpu usage at 100%
again.

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