Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Richard, it pays to be wise and patient. In doubt wait for both. Check with your group of users first, if problems arise, then wait longer. RevWeb is just starting, there's a lot of room for improvements. Andre On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Richard Miller wrote: > Andre, > > Thanks for your thoughts. Are you suggesting to wait for another version > (or two) of the plugin, or wait until I've seen how it goes with a group of > users. or both? > > Richard > > > > > > Andre Garzia wrote: > >> Richard, >> >> I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group >> of >> users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just >> launch >> the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue. >> >> Andre >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: >> >> >> >>> I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb >>> project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on >>> my >>> existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain >>> about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite >>> well). >>> I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much >>> more >>> thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the >>> testing process. >>> >>> One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon >>> (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have >>> to >>> reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down >>> their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have >>> to >>> do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that >>> this >>> process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that >>> matter, >>> what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them >>> to >>> essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other >>> than >>> the registry)? >>> >>> Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I >>> hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older >>> version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience >>> to >>> date. >>> >>> Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone >>> else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Richard Miller >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Hi Richard, My client had browser / plug-in problems. He is not computer savvy, so he needed a super simple solution. We live in different states, so it was difficult to help him troubleshoot. He was never able to get the plug-in to work in IE or FireFox. I tested both of those browsers without fail. I quickly gave him a standalone version to mitigate his frustration. Because of this, I never got to the core of his problem, which was probably simple. It was more important for me to get him what he needed fast rather than spend precious time troubleshooting something that should be seamless. I think we loose credibility when things do not work the first time. Ed On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Richard Miller wrote: Hi Ed, What kind of problems did you encounter? This could be very helpful info. Thanks. Richard Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote: Hi Richard, I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after thorough local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my client had problems. This taught me to wait until well after the first non-beta release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my feet back in these waters. Until then, I am using other development environments. We only get one chance at first impressions. Ed On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Hi Ed, What kind of problems did you encounter? This could be very helpful info. Thanks. Richard Edward D Lavieri Jr wrote: Hi Richard, I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after thorough local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my client had problems. This taught me to wait until well after the first non-beta release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my feet back in these waters. Until then, I am using other development environments. We only get one chance at first impressions. Ed On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Andre, Thanks for your thoughts. Are you suggesting to wait for another version (or two) of the plugin, or wait until I've seen how it goes with a group of users. or both? Richard Andre Garzia wrote: Richard, I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group of users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just launch the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue. Andre On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Hi Richard, I recently took this leap, but on a smaller scale. Even after thorough local testing on multiple PC and Mac operating systems, my client had problems. This taught me to wait until well after the first non-beta release. Once things are truly stable, I will dip my feet back in these waters. Until then, I am using other development environments. We only get one chance at first impressions. Ed On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all- too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Releasing a commercial revweb site
Richard, I would wait some more, try conducting a beta test with a selected group of users, pick 50 or something and see if it works for them, if you just launch the site with no focus group test, if risk a huge support issue. Andre On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Richard Miller wrote: > I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb > project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my > existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain > about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). > I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more > thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the > testing process. > > One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon > (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to > reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down > their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to > do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this > process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, > what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to > essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than > the registry)? > > Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I > hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older > version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to > date. > > Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone > else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? > > Thanks. > Richard Miller > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Releasing a commercial revweb site
I'm within a week of releasing a fairly extensive commercial revweb project, which will immediately have traffic in the thousands (based on my existing Rev software and user database). I'm feeling a little uncertain about this, given the state of the plugin (which mostly works quite well). I've only tested my program on XP and Firefox so far, but will do much more thorough testing this week, including asking folks here to help in the testing process. One concern I have is that the plugin will likely be upgraded again soon (in a week?... two weeks?... unknown)... meaning all my users will have to reinstall it which means downloading the new version, shutting down their browser, installing the new plugin, then restarting. Yes, they have to do this with other well known plugins, but will they be concerned that this process will be all-too-frequent with the Rev plugin? And for that matter, what am I even telling them about a revweb-based site? Am I telling them to essentially ignore the security concerns (I use every permission, other than the registry)? Will there be problems with other configurations of an OS and browser? I hope to find this out shortly, but what if they have a somewhat older version of a browser? There's been so little revweb real-world experience to date. Anyone else on the verge of taking this leap? Or better yet, has anyone else already made the leap? Any particular thoughts on this matter? Thanks. Richard Miller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
