Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Timothy Miller]

I just learned about assigning privileges to folders, for different 
users on the same machine. Believe it or not, I knew nothing about 
this. I never had more than one account on a machine before, and 
don't often network.


That'll answer all my questions regarding accounts. It will also mean 
I'll be on the list less often. I'll now be able to lock myself out 
of email for most of every workday.


I'll see ya round the neighborhood now and then, though.

Thanks for the attempts to assist,

Cheers,


Tim
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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Timothy Miller]

J. Landman Gay wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, so it may be 
that OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


Is there a benefit to having those apps use duplicate creator 
codes, or should we Bugzilla that?


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Timothy Miller replied:



Well, come to think of it, I guess I could try trashing DC Player. I 
never use it anyway, and I guess I can download another copy if 
needed.


I'll try it, and report back, in case anyone is interested. Good 
clue, Jacque! (as usual)


Tim



Yup. That worked. If I put DC Player in the trash, then I can allow 
or disallow Revolution Dreamcard on the "parental controls" list.


FWIW, it seems kinda silly to call it "parental controls." Seems like 
there are other reasons the administrator might want to disallow a 
subordinate user's access to certain applications.


In any case, I hope this might be slightly useful to someone.

Cheers,

Tim
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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Timothy Miller]

J. Landman Gay wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, so it may be that 
OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


Is there a benefit to having those apps use duplicate creator codes, 
or should we Bugzilla that?


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My original message didn't show up, nor did Jacque's kind reply. 
Unless I missed   other items on this thread, Jacque's theory seems 
reasonable. There's probably no easy workaround...


Well, come to think of it, I guess I could try trashing DC Player. I 
never use it anyway, and I guess I can download another copy if 
needed.


I'll try it, and report back, in case anyone is interested. Good 
clue, Jacque! (as usual)


Tim

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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Charles Hartman]

On Nov 28, 2005, at 12:54 AM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, so it may be  
that OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


Been zilla'd: .


But it's still marked "Unconfirmed"?

Charles Hartman

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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Jeanne A. E. DeVoto]

At 8:19 PM -0800 11/27/2005, Richard Gaskin wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, so it may be that 
OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


Is there a benefit to having those apps use duplicate creator codes, 
or should we Bugzilla that?


Been zilla'd: .
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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Richard Gaskin]

Andre Garzia wrote:


On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:19 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, so it may be  that 
OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


Is there a benefit to having those apps use duplicate creator  codes, 
or should we Bugzilla that?


If they have different codes, would double clicking from the finder  
works? Don't macos use creator codes to tag the documents created by  
the app and to decide which app opens each file type?


Rather than leave it up to guesswork and prayer, there could be some 
intentionality behind the use of creator codes and file types:


The Rev IDE is used for development, and the Player is used for 
deployment. Each has a very distinct role, so why confuse the two?


.rev cold remain in common use for development, and .rvp for deployment 
with Rev Player.


The Distribution Builder (or any five-minute plugin) could take take of 
changing the creator code and file type as needed for deployment.


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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Andre Garzia]

On Nov 28, 2005, at 2:19 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


J. Landman Gay wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, so it may be  
that OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


Is there a benefit to having those apps use duplicate creator  
codes, or should we Bugzilla that?




If they have different codes, would double clicking from the finder  
works? Don't macos use creator codes to tag the documents created by  
the app and to decide which app opens each file type?


PS: ... I do remember that an app could register for more than one  
file type, but I don't recall how...


Andre



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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Richard Gaskin]

J. Landman Gay wrote:
Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, 
so it may be that OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


Is there a benefit to having those apps use duplicate creator codes, or 
should we Bugzilla that?


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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Mark Wieder]

Tim-

Sunday, November 27, 2005, 7:32:53 PM, you wrote:

> I run my business on a bunch of integrated Rev stacks, formerly
> hyperCard stacks. The good news is, if it breaks, I can fix it. The 
> bad news is, if it breaks, I *must* fix it.

ROTFL

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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Andre Garzia]

On Nov 28, 2005, at 12:25 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

If that doesn't work, try removing or archiving the Player so it  
isn't on the disk any more. Both DC and Rev Player use the same  
creator code, so it may be that OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


If I remember correctly, MacOS will use the app with the latest  
modification date as the default app if there's more than one app for  
the same creator code. So first check the date for the player and for  
dreamcard, if the player is younger than rev, use touch command to  
change revolution date and try again, I do think rev will be the new  
default app for the creator code... (but it's 2:00 AM here, I might  
be inventing this on my memory...)


Cheers
andre
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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Timothy Miller]

Timothy Miller wrote:



--snip--

My plan was to lock myself out of the obvious 
time-sponge-applications. I wouldn't be able to use this stuff on 
impulse. I'd have to log out and log back in as the administrator. 
The slight delay and inconvenience might be an effective 
psychological barrier.


Alex Tweedly Replied:



Sorry, Tim, I don't know enough about MacOS to help you.
But I do have one question 

IMHO, the biggest "time-sponge application" if all is RunRev. I can 
spend hours in there, happily tweaking things, trying out things, 
adding features to my apps, playing with Revs features, etc.



Hi Alex,


Yeah, I know what you mean. I do that too, except I can't really say 
I enjoy it. Well, sometimes it is intellectually stimulating, like a 
good puzzle, but it sure doesn't beat paddling a kayak in Hawaii. It 
seems like a sick compulsion sometimes. My favorite foible the 
"convenient" new feature will never save me as much time and trouble 
as it takes me to write and debug.



So why do you want to make it available to your "focused" login.



I run my business on a bunch of integrated Rev stacks, formerly 
hyperCard stacks. The good news is, if it breaks, I can fix it. The 
bad news is, if it breaks, I *must* fix it.


Thanks for asking,


Tim



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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[J. Landman Gay]

Timothy Miller wrote:

The problem: Revolution Dreamcard doesn't show up in the list of 
applications I can allow or disallow -- under "Parental Controls". 
(Revolution Dreamcard Player does show up.) 


Possibly a permissions problem. Do a "Get Info" on Dreamcard Player and 
note the permissions in the "Details" section of the "Ownership and 
permissions" pane. Then look at the permissions on DreamCard and make 
sure they are the same.


If that doesn't work, try removing or archiving the Player so it isn't 
on the disk any more. Both DC and Rev Player use the same creator code, 
so it may be that OS X thinks they are duplicate apps.


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Re: Rev and User Accounts

[Alex Tweedly]

Timothy Miller wrote:


Hello,

In an attempt to keep myself on-task while working at my computer, I 
created a new user account, without administrative privileges. We're 
on Macintosh OS 10.4. The administrator can grant or deny other users 
access to applications. (This is done under the heading of "parental 
controls.")


My plan was to lock myself out of the obvious 
time-sponge-applications. I wouldn't be able to use this stuff on 
impulse. I'd have to log out and log back in as the administrator. The 
slight delay and inconvenience might be an effective psychological 
barrier.



Sorry, Tim, I don't know enough about MacOS to help you.
But I do have one question 

IMHO, the biggest "time-sponge application" if all is RunRev. I can 
spend hours in there, happily tweaking things, trying out things, adding 
features to my apps, playing with Revs features, etc.  So why do you 
want to make it available to your "focused" login.


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Rev and User Accounts

[Timothy Miller]

Hello,

In an attempt to keep myself on-task while working at my computer, I 
created a new user account, without administrative privileges. We're 
on Macintosh OS 10.4. The administrator can grant or deny other users 
access to applications. (This is done under the heading of "parental 
controls.")


My plan was to lock myself out of the obvious 
time-sponge-applications. I wouldn't be able to use this stuff on 
impulse. I'd have to log out and log back in as the administrator. 
The slight delay and inconvenience might be an effective 
psychological barrier.


The problem: Revolution Dreamcard doesn't show up in the list of 
applications I can allow or disallow -- under "Parental Controls". 
(Revolution Dreamcard Player does show up.) I can try adding 
Revolution Dreamcard to the list of applications by using the 
"locate..." button. When I try to include Revolution that way, I get 
a dialog box that says, "Revolution Dreamcard doesn't work with the 
limitations you have selected." The attempt to put Revolution on the 
"allow" list is ignored.


I tried turning off all limitations on the "parental controls" 
screen. No help. I wondered if Rev needs access to certain helper 
applications. The only one I could think of was Quicktime Player. I 
added that one to the "allow" list, but I still can't add Revolution 
to the "allow" list.


If I turn off all parental controls, then Revolution works normally 
under the other account. But then the purpose of the other account is 
defeated.


Any suggestions?


Thanks in advance,


Tim
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