Re: Rev and the iPad
Marty Knapp wrote: Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: You stayed awake all night thinking this up, right? :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On 04/05/2010 20:05, Marty Knapp wrote: Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: on BarneyCode put "CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR" Into IsBarneyTheAntiChrist put 0 into TheNumberThatWillProveIt replace "U" with "V" in IsBarneyTheAntiChrist --Should be proper Latin- well, because repeat with x=1 to the number of chars of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist if char x of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist is in "C,V,L,D,I" then --Only use letters that are Roman Numerals add romanToArab(char x of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist) to TheNumberThatWillProveIt end if end repeat answer warning TheNumberThatWillProveIt end BarneyCode --function by Mark Schonewille function romanToArab theNumber put "i,v,x,l,c,d,m" into myRomans put "1,5,10,50,100,500,1000" into myArabs put item itemoffset(last char of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myNumber repeat with x = (number of chars of theNumber - 1) down to 1 put item itemoffset(char x of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myTemp1 put item itemoffset(char x + 1 of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myTemp2 if myTemp1 < myTemp2 then subtract myTemp1 from myNumber else add myTemp1 to myNumber end repeat return myNumber end romanToArab Marty Knapp P.S. My apologies ahead of time if I offended your religious, non-religious, or irreligious sensibilities. P.S. #2 I hope Mark doesn't mind me using his function for this silliness At the further risk of offending anybody's sensibilities of any sort, the antiChrist has always struck me a similar to Barney; all bluff and bluster and once you ask him some leading question he disappears in puff of smoke and you realise he was little more than a figment of your own insecurities. Mind you, he may not be purple . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Actually Barney is the Antichrist. For proof: on BarneyCode put "CUTE PURPLE DINOSAUR" Into IsBarneyTheAntiChrist put 0 into TheNumberThatWillProveIt replace "U" with "V" in IsBarneyTheAntiChrist --Should be proper Latin- well, because repeat with x=1 to the number of chars of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist if char x of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist is in "C,V,L,D,I" then --Only use letters that are Roman Numerals add romanToArab(char x of IsBarneyTheAntiChrist) to TheNumberThatWillProveIt end if end repeat answer warning TheNumberThatWillProveIt end BarneyCode --function by Mark Schonewille function romanToArab theNumber put "i,v,x,l,c,d,m" into myRomans put "1,5,10,50,100,500,1000" into myArabs put item itemoffset(last char of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myNumber repeat with x = (number of chars of theNumber - 1) down to 1 put item itemoffset(char x of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myTemp1 put item itemoffset(char x + 1 of theNumber,myRomans) of myArabs into myTemp2 if myTemp1 < myTemp2 then subtract myTemp1 from myNumber else add myTemp1 to myNumber end repeat return myNumber end romanToArab Marty Knapp P.S. My apologies ahead of time if I offended your religious, non-religious, or irreligious sensibilities. P.S. #2 I hope Mark doesn't mind me using his function for this silliness Spookier still is to consider what ungodly combination of space alien and furry marmot gave birth to Barney. Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
The first version sounded more pithy. It had me thinking for 5 whole minutes. Bob On May 2, 2010, at 9:11 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > Oops. Getting late. Meant to say: > > The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay > > Best, > > Jerry Daniels ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Spookier still is to consider what ungodly combination of space alien and furry marmot gave birth to Barney. > Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Ha ha, Thanks for that Colin, I hope pointing out the author of Scratch didn't come off as rude. I want a Dynabook Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net I Can Speak - Communication for the rest of us... http://mypad.lazyriver.on-rev.com I Can Speak on the iPad Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/i-can-speak/id364733279?mt=8 DeMoted - Have you DeMoted Someone today? http://demoted.lazyriver.on-rev.com DeMoted on the iTune App Store http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demoted/id355925236?mt=8 On May 3, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > On May 3, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > >>> Alan Kay didn't create the Scratch App for the App Store. John McIntosh, a >>> software developer unaffiliated with MIT, made the Scratch app for iPhone. > > > I wonder if Alan Kay predicted that an App based on his Squeak language would > be removed from the App Store. > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On May 3, 2010, at 8:32 AM, Thomas McGrath III wrote: > >Alan Kay didn't create the Scratch App for the App Store. John McIntosh, a > >software developer unaffiliated with MIT, made the Scratch app for iPhone. I wonder if Alan Kay predicted that an App based on his Squeak language would be removed from the App Store. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Alan Kay didn't create the Scratch App for the App Store. John McIntosh, a software developer unaffiliated with MIT, made the Scratch app for iPhone. Read more here: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/apple-scratch-app/ Tom Read More http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/apple-scratch-app/#ixzz0mrwT6qlm On May 3, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > > On May 3, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > >>> The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay > > > > I wonder if Alan Kay predicted that Apple would remove his Scratch App from > the App Store. > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On May 3, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > >The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay I wonder if Alan Kay predicted that Apple would remove his Scratch App from the App Store. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
I just want a viable programming language on Linux. When stuff happens, I try to figure out whether they make it more or less likely that we'll be able to get it from Rev. You can't avoid trying to figure out what is going to happen, unless you want to make decisions by tossing a coin. I wish Rev well in its efforts to get into the App Store, but given limited resources, it does seem that success here might be, most probably will be, maybe already has been, at the expense of Linux versions, including Android, which is after all Linux. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rev-and-the-iPad-tp2123407p2123609.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev and the iPad
I hope you are kidding. -Original Message- From: Mark Wieder Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:12 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Rev and the iPad Jerry- Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:11:01 PM, you wrote: > Oops. Getting late. Meant to say: > The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay No problem. I think Arthur C. Clarke invented the future by predicting it... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Rev and the iPad
Kay, another true computer scientist. -Original Message- From: Jerry Daniels Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:11 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Rev and the iPad Oops. Getting late. Meant to say: The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 2, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > The best way to invent the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay > > Best, > > Jerry Daniels > > Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: > http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch > > On May 2, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: > >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: >> [The entire original message is not included] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Jerry- Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:11:01 PM, you wrote: > Oops. Getting late. Meant to say: > The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay No problem. I think Arthur C. Clarke invented the future by predicting it... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
Oops. Getting late. Meant to say: The best way to PREDICT the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 2, 2010, at 11:07 PM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > The best way to invent the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay > > Best, > > Jerry Daniels > > Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: > http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch > > On May 2, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: > >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: >> >>> Peter Alcibiades: >>> >>> >>> Too bad we don't have a "crystal ball" we could use to predict the future. >>> >>> >> >> How about a magic 8-ball? ;-) >> >> Jeff M. >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
The best way to invent the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay Best, Jerry Daniels Use tRev's buy link during your free trial to get 20% off: http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch On May 2, 2010, at 9:23 PM, Jeff Massung wrote: > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: > >> Peter Alcibiades: >> >> >> Too bad we don't have a "crystal ball" we could use to predict the future. >> >> > > How about a magic 8-ball? ;-) > > Jeff M. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote: > Peter Alcibiades: > > > Too bad we don't have a "crystal ball" we could use to predict the future. > > How about a magic 8-ball? ;-) Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev and the iPad
Peter Alcibiades: > ...It does seem increasingly likely that cross platform in this > industry doesn't any more mean Linux Mac and Windows, it means mobile and > desktop and network Too bad we don't have a "crystal ball" we could use to predict the future. Kurt ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On 02/05/2010 22:52, Malte Pfaff-Brill wrote: RevMobile was priced quite expensively, presumably under the assumption that it was the golden egg of Rev programming products that was finally going to get me that Lamborghini Countach. Now it's a brick, and we need to figure out what to do. We are all very loyal to Rev and its wonderful staff, but something reasonable will have to be done in the face of this disastrous development. It is not over until the fat lady sings. As there are no fat ladies over at RR, I will patiently hold my feet still and wait what the mothership has to say on the issue. Would they had given up, I bet they would have been a lot quicker with their response. So I bet there are smoking heads seeing what can / will be done for revMobile. I wouldn´t want to walk in their shoes at the moment, though that there has some amount of time passed raises more hope in me than it destroys. Steve Jobs hardly qualifies as a fat lady either. However, I am wondering, in light of the furore, whether some of Apple's shareholders won't be singing songs that may grate slightly on Steve Jobs' ears and he may have to retract some of what he excluded. I am sure that this is the fall-out of Steve Jobs and Co. wanting to squish Adobe, rather than a desire to exclude more minor players such as RunRev, who are, unfortunately, caught in the storm. -- I also wouldn't describe RevMobile as a 'brick' (though I would be wondering about things had I bought the Beta), as it has been advertised as being capable of producing software for quite a number of other platforms besides iPhone and iPad. I do not think Apple products are the "B-all and end-all", and am well aware that there are lots more mobile devices out in the world, and a lot more yet to come; some of which, I am quite sure, will put both iPhone and iPad in the shade. After the G3 iMac there was a slew of PC lookalikes; after the macMini similarly: http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/p/88014/445876.aspx http://www.businessinsider.com/google-working-on-an-ipad-clone-2010-4 http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/kit-eaton/technomix/meet-chinese-ipad-clone-three-months-ago-and-msis-future-one http://www.shanzai.com/index.php/bandit-gadgets/32-tablets/851-first-glimpse-of-a-real-shanzhai-ipad-clone http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/49421-android-powered-ipad-clone-spotted-in-the-wild ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
> RevMobile was priced quite expensively, > presumably under the assumption that it was the golden egg of Rev > programming products that was finally going to get me that Lamborghini > Countach. Now it's a brick, and we need to figure out what to do. We are all > very loyal to Rev and its wonderful staff, but something reasonable will > have to be done in the face of this disastrous development. It is not over until the fat lady sings. As there are no fat ladies over at RR, I will patiently hold my feet still and wait what the mothership has to say on the issue. Would they had given up, I bet they would have been a lot quicker with their response. So I bet there are smoking heads seeing what can / will be done for revMobile. I wouldn´t want to walk in their shoes at the moment, though that there has some amount of time passed raises more hope in me than it destroys. All the best, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On 02/05/2010 21:36, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 2, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) But probably doesn't use HyperCard anymore. But does he use Mac Developer Tools and is he a vegan? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On 02/05/2010 21:36, Colin Holgate wrote: On May 2, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) But probably doesn't use HyperCard anymore. As far as I remember purple was problematic without the colour tools. Oddly enough, I landed in America and bought an LC475 and a television when my older son was 6 months old (1993); my wife's and my 3 year stay in the USA was tinted purple by that bl**dy dinosaur. I am glad to say that my son is soon to be 18 and, apparently, survived any ill effects associated with Barney; although, truth be known, when he is at his adolescent worst there is a certain resemblance . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On May 2, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > > Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) But probably doesn't use HyperCard anymore. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
On 02/05/2010 21:26, J. Landman Gay wrote: rand valentine wrote: RevMobile was priced quite expensively, presumably under the assumption that it was the golden egg of Rev programming products that was finally going to get me that Lamborghini Countach. Now it's a brick, and we need to figure out what to do. We are all very loyal to Rev and its wonderful staff, but something reasonable will have to be done in the face of this disastrous development. If RR must conclude that they cannot support iPhone, I am positive they will be responsible about your purchase and offer alternatives. That isn't something I'd worry about. I love the comments about HyperCard, because I too was there, especially the BAD stacks, which outnumbered GOOD stacks at least 50 to 1. Last night I was looking through my ancient AOL archives because I really did hope I'd saved a copy of some of those kiddie stacks. No luck, except for the original "Barney Dies!!!" (can't recall offhand if there were three or four exclamation points) which was misfiled and therefore inadvertently backed up. I'm sorry now we didn't download the kiddie library when we were doing the final backups before the forum was killed off. I'm consiering turning it into a revlet for old times sake. What's spooky is that the author is probably in his thirties by now with a nine year old of his own. Surely the spookiest thing of all is that Barney is still alive . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
rand valentine wrote: RevMobile was priced quite expensively, presumably under the assumption that it was the golden egg of Rev programming products that was finally going to get me that Lamborghini Countach. Now it's a brick, and we need to figure out what to do. We are all very loyal to Rev and its wonderful staff, but something reasonable will have to be done in the face of this disastrous development. If RR must conclude that they cannot support iPhone, I am positive they will be responsible about your purchase and offer alternatives. That isn't something I'd worry about. I love the comments about HyperCard, because I too was there, especially the BAD stacks, which outnumbered GOOD stacks at least 50 to 1. Last night I was looking through my ancient AOL archives because I really did hope I'd saved a copy of some of those kiddie stacks. No luck, except for the original "Barney Dies!!!" (can't recall offhand if there were three or four exclamation points) which was misfiled and therefore inadvertently backed up. I'm sorry now we didn't download the kiddie library when we were doing the final backups before the forum was killed off. I'm consiering turning it into a revlet for old times sake. What's spooky is that the author is probably in his thirties by now with a nine year old of his own. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev and the iPad
If you boil this thing down to the essentials, it seems to go like this: Is it important to have one set of tools which do both desktop and mobile apps? If yes, then can you get this with OSX and App Store? If yes to this, do you really need Android as well right now? You could argue it turns into a nice to have only, so you'll focus on the App Store, and that you are excused in this case from any need to clean up the Linux Rev offering or do Android any time soon. I think this would be a mistake, but you can see reasonable people arguing that resource is limited, and with an Apple centered user community, maybe it would carry the day. If no to this, ie you can't get into the App Store, can you get one set of tools for mobile and desktop on Android and Linux Desktop? If yes to this, is the market for Linux development tools viable for Rev, in conjunction with Android? If so, get busy PDQ on cleaning up Rev for Linux, do Android functionality, and go. It seems that there are a couple of things you can't or shouldn't try for as Rev in this situation. One is to retreat from the App Store and not have a mobile alternative. There only seems to be one of these, Android. But to do Android you have to clean up the Linux offering if you are to offer one environment. It does seem increasingly likely that cross platform in this industry doesn't any more mean Linux Mac and Windows, it means mobile and desktop and network. Another would be, leave Linux as is, and just focus on Android. Cross contamination will kill this one. This stuff is really difficult. Scenario planning is just about the only way for a group to get to the bottom of these kinds of choices, but its a lot of work. On the other hand, these are basic issues about the business, so you cannot avoid navigating through them. Its a matter of do you do it well or badly. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rev-and-the-iPad-tp2122802p2122882.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev and the iPad
I've been following the discussion a bit regarding Apple's policies that affect the likelihood that RevMobile will ever find its way onto the iPhone and iPad, and I appreciate the many perspectives offered, they've tempered my own contempt for SJ a bit, though not enough for me to confer any blessings. I'm wondering what is going to happen with our quite expensive RevMobile licenses -- perhaps it's too early to tell, but if I can't program for Apple mobile products, then I don¹t really have any use for RevMobile, and I hope that Rev will simply allow me to transfer the cost of it to license renewals of versions of Rev that DO run on Apple products, though who knows when the proverbial wild hair will cause SJ to banish all but Objective C for my Mac as well. RevMobile was priced quite expensively, presumably under the assumption that it was the golden egg of Rev programming products that was finally going to get me that Lamborghini Countach. Now it's a brick, and we need to figure out what to do. We are all very loyal to Rev and its wonderful staff, but something reasonable will have to be done in the face of this disastrous development. I love the comments about HyperCard, because I too was there, especially the BAD stacks, which outnumbered GOOD stacks at least 50 to 1. I remember! I haven't gone NEAR the pattern palette since! I am a university professor, and did my dissertation research using HyperCard, a dialect survey of a North American aboriginal language spoken over much of Canada and the upper midwest of the U.S. HyperCard greatly enabled me to do REALLY GOOD research, and I continue to use Rev in, well, revolutionary ways in documentary linguistic work. I don't know what I'd use if it didn't exist, I use it every day for some programming need I have. It's not perfect-- the biggest problem for me is the lack of really transparent Unicode usage. But it is REALLY good. I am a language teacher, too, and I've used Rev to make some wonderful teaching tools, and that was my primary interest in using RevMobile, so that I could develop simple language learning tools for my students. I cannot effectively communicate my annoyance that someone can program yet another bloodbath game with stick figures but I cannot use the iPad to circulate language learning programs for a dying language because I happen to use a program that SJ has decided to sort with the goats. This is not an idle issue for me. I also use FMTouch, a really cute implementation of part of FileMaker on the iDevice. My impression is that they are in some way up a creek just as Rev is regarding enabling third party access to the vaunted App Store. They have a wiki discussing various programming/implementation issues and talk about something called Application Provisioning, here http://www.fmwebschool.com/reference/FMTouch_Reference#Application_Provision ing It seems that this would be relevant to just about anything we might to do with deploying to an iDevice. rand valentine ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
