Re: Rev app 'not responding' under Vista, but fine in XP
Thanks to Richard, Phil Jacqueline, the 'wait 0' does the trick, with or without messages. I just put it as the first line in my repeat loop. This is what I've found for those who are interested in Vista behaviour - a stack is more predisposed to become 'not responding' in the IDE than as a standalone. As a standalone it does not usually become non-responsive unless there is a lot of other stuff going on; however if windows task manager is open, my app is almost guaranteed to become 'non-responsive' during one particular large repeat loop. However adding a wait 0 at the start of the loop seems to do the trick (without speed impact), I haven't been able to make it go non-responsive with that line in there. regards Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev app 'not responding' under Vista, but fine in XP
Hi folks Microsoft Vista is classifying my Rev application as 'Not responding' when it runs a particularly intensive handler. The title bar changes and screen updates cease. But the program is still working just fine underneath all that, and once the handler finishes Vista releases the stranglehold and updates the window. However users may be understandably concerned and will not see the progress bar update normally shown by the program. This does not happen on XP, it seems that Vista is a little overzealous here. I believe Rev does its garbage collection after a handler finishes. So a big repeat loop could instead be changed to repeated calls to a sub handler. But I think this would add overhead and besides I'm struggling to think of a way to modify a couple of my problematic handlers in this fashion. Has anyone here had any successful dealings with this issue? regards Martin Blackman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev app 'not responding' under Vista, but fine in XP
Martin Blackman wrote: Microsoft Vista is classifying my Rev application as 'Not responding' when it runs a particularly intensive handler. The title bar changes and screen updates cease. But the program is still working just fine underneath all that, and once the handler finishes Vista releases the stranglehold and updates the window. However users may be understandably concerned and will not see the progress bar update normally shown by the program. This does not happen on XP, it seems that Vista is a little overzealous here. I believe Rev does its garbage collection after a handler finishes. So a big repeat loop could instead be changed to repeated calls to a sub handler. But I think this would add overhead and besides I'm struggling to think of a way to modify a couple of my problematic handlers in this fashion. Has anyone here had any successful dealings with this issue? Just a hunch, but I wonder if adding wait 0 with messages would free up enough clock cycles to let the OS feel more comfortable. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev app 'not responding' under Vista, but fine in XP
I bet the with messages part isn't needed - doesn't that just allow UI interaction, which may not be desirable during Martin's process? In other words, I don't think it's necessary if you just want to free the engine and/or OS to take a breath. FWIW - Phil Davis Richard Gaskin wrote: Martin Blackman wrote: Microsoft Vista is classifying my Rev application as 'Not responding' when it runs a particularly intensive handler. The title bar changes and screen updates cease. But the program is still working just fine underneath all that, and once the handler finishes Vista releases the stranglehold and updates the window. However users may be understandably concerned and will not see the progress bar update normally shown by the program. This does not happen on XP, it seems that Vista is a little overzealous here. I believe Rev does its garbage collection after a handler finishes. So a big repeat loop could instead be changed to repeated calls to a sub handler. But I think this would add overhead and besides I'm struggling to think of a way to modify a couple of my problematic handlers in this fashion. Has anyone here had any successful dealings with this issue? Just a hunch, but I wonder if adding wait 0 with messages would free up enough clock cycles to let the OS feel more comfortable. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev app 'not responding' under Vista, but fine in XP
Phil Davis wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Martin Blackman wrote: Microsoft Vista is classifying my Rev application as 'Not responding' when it runs a particularly intensive handler. ... Just a hunch, but I wonder if adding wait 0 with messages would free up enough clock cycles to let the OS feel more comfortable. I bet the with messages part isn't needed - doesn't that just allow UI interaction, which may not be desirable during Martin's process? In other words, I don't think it's necessary if you just want to free the engine and/or OS to take a breath. I had picked up the (mis?)impression that the difference with adding with messages is that without it the wait stays in Rev's internal even loop, but with it it makes a call to whatever is the current OS equivalent of GetNextEvent. I wouldn't mind being mistaken, though; it's clumsy syntax. Anyone here know for sure whether the wait command by itself is sufficient to free up a call to the OS? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev app 'not responding' under Vista, but fine in XP
Richard Gaskin wrote: Phil Davis wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Martin Blackman wrote: Microsoft Vista is classifying my Rev application as 'Not responding' when it runs a particularly intensive handler. ... Just a hunch, but I wonder if adding wait 0 with messages would free up enough clock cycles to let the OS feel more comfortable. I bet the with messages part isn't needed - doesn't that just allow UI interaction, which may not be desirable during Martin's process? In other words, I don't think it's necessary if you just want to free the engine and/or OS to take a breath. I had picked up the (mis?)impression that the difference with adding with messages is that without it the wait stays in Rev's internal even loop, but with it it makes a call to whatever is the current OS equivalent of GetNextEvent. I wouldn't mind being mistaken, though; it's clumsy syntax. Anyone here know for sure whether the wait command by itself is sufficient to free up a call to the OS? It doesn't. Wait with messages does allow a time slice not only for the IDE but for background processes as well, but I don't know if it also allows garbage collection in the handler. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
