Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread Wilhelm Sanke, FB01
Many thanks for your comments.

-= JB =- sundown at pacifier.com wrote:

 That is a nice stack.  Thank you.  I do get a few error dialogs.  I  
 even get one
 when it first starts but I select ignore and the stack works.

 and Stephen Barncard stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com wrote (using Twofold
posting of mail as the subject):

 The stack is awesome! I've spent several hours with it...

 One note: no way to cancel out of some operations and the IDE was 
 complaining about an Answer Dialog already existing...

 but it's wonderful. Lots of lessons here.

I would very much like to know what kind of error dialog you get and which
operations could not be cancelled.

One of the already known issues is the unfriendliness of the Rev IDE towards
customized answer and ask dialogs. 
On the one hand among the (once) praised features of Metacard and Revolution was
the possibility to adapt even elements of the IDE to your specific needs; since
long I prefer to embed my own dialogs into my stacks, because I need the option
to place them anywhere on the stack or the screen and I do not like the far
oversized widths of the dialogs Rev offers.
On the other hand the Rev IDE is  over-protective in some respects (and for
reasons that escape me) and does not like such customized dialogs.
Take a look at the script of btn revfrontscript of stack revlibrary which is
inserted as a frontscript for the Rev IDE and comment out lines 992 to 1006 in
handler revCheckStackCollision. This will stop the complaint about the answer
dialog and otherwise will have no effects on how the Rev IDE will function.

Alternatively it would be a good choice to get the Metacard IDE and just place
the latest Rev engine into it. Most - if not all - of your problems will then
disappear.

Another annoyance is the fact that with version 3 of the Rev IDE the blue stack
Rev Centre keeps popping up all the time after a customized answer or ask
dialog has finished the execution of its script. I have not yet found out from
where this annoyance originates. Same recommendation as above: Get the Metacard
IDE.-

And: I hope the mail service of our server will now work properly. I saw that
even my post about Twofold posting of mail was sent twice.

Best regards,


Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia


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Re: ANN: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread -= JB =-

Hi Wilhelm,

That is a nice stack.  Thank you.  I do get a few error dialogs.  I  
even get one

when it first starts but I select ignore and the stack works.

Thanks again for posting it.

-=JB=-



On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Wilhelm Sanke, FB01 wrote:

 Just uploaded a slightly updated version of the Seamless Tiles  
Generator 2 to


http://www.sanke.org/Software/SeamlessTiles2.zip

See the descriptions on page Sample Stacks on my website
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia.

Among other things this stack features an improved resizable and  
draggable
selection graphic that lets you choose a segment of any size from  
the imported

source image  to create a seamless tile.

The ink of the selection graphic needed to be adapted both to the  
differences

between Windows and MacOS and the stackfileversions 2.4 and 2.7.

With engine versions  2.7 we need admin for MacOS and srcAnd  
for Windows.
For engine versions  2.7 and higher srccopy is necessary for both  
platforms to

show a transparent graphic.

Moreover, I have changed the stack extension from *.mc to  
*.rev, to enable

users of Rev 3.0 gm 3 to see and load the stack.

See the quote of my earlier post (to the Metacard- and Improve- 
lists) concerning

 this special problem:


Strange change of file associations with Rev 3-gm-3 engine

Wilhelm Sanke
Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:59:50 -0700
Rev engine 3-gm-2 displays both *.rev and *.mc-files in the open  
stack
dialog as Revolution stacks. Engine 3-gm-3 restricts the  
displayed stacks to
files with the *.rev extension; even when you choose All files  
the display
of mc-files is suppressed, but other files like dlls and txt files  
are shown.
It is even impossible to enforce the display of mc-files by typing  
*.mc into
the file name box of the open stack dialog. Putting the  
Revolution.exe engine
3-gm-3 into the Metacard IDE shows the same restrictions: No mc- 
files are
displayed. However, when you rename Revolution.exe to MC.exe,  
both
Revolution stack-files rev and mc are displayed in the open  
stack
dialog - like before in gm-2 with Revolution.exe. This holds for  
both IDEs,
the Revolution and the Metacard IDE. The consequence for users  
that primarily
work with the Rev IDE - but wish to access Metacard files once in  
a while -
would be to rename their Rev engine to MC.exe. This works fine  
within the Rev

IDE.



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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread -= JB =-

I have only been using Revolution for less than a year now and before
that I used hyperCard.  I know about MetaCard but I thought it was
replaced by Rev.  So where do I get the MetaCard IDE and after I
get it how do I install it properly?

I have noticed others on the list mention they use MetaCard too.  Will
someone please explain why people use MetaCard even though they
keep using the latest version of Rev.

thanks,
-=JB=-



On Oct 12, 2008, at 3:47 AM, Wilhelm Sanke, FB01 wrote:


Many thanks for your comments.

-= JB =- sundown at pacifier.com wrote:


That is a nice stack.  Thank you.  I do get a few error dialogs.  I
even get one
when it first starts but I select ignore and the stack works.


 and Stephen Barncard stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com wrote  
(using Twofold

posting of mail as the subject):


The stack is awesome! I've spent several hours with it...



One note: no way to cancel out of some operations and the IDE was
complaining about an Answer Dialog already existing...



but it's wonderful. Lots of lessons here.


I would very much like to know what kind of error dialog you get  
and which

operations could not be cancelled.

One of the already known issues is the unfriendliness of the Rev  
IDE towards

customized answer and ask dialogs.
On the one hand among the (once) praised features of Metacard and  
Revolution was
the possibility to adapt even elements of the IDE to your specific  
needs; since
long I prefer to embed my own dialogs into my stacks, because I  
need the option
to place them anywhere on the stack or the screen and I do not like  
the far

oversized widths of the dialogs Rev offers.
On the other hand the Rev IDE is  over-protective in some  
respects (and for

reasons that escape me) and does not like such customized dialogs.
Take a look at the script of btn revfrontscript of stack  
revlibrary which is
inserted as a frontscript for the Rev IDE and comment out lines 992  
to 1006 in
handler revCheckStackCollision. This will stop the complaint  
about the answer
dialog and otherwise will have no effects on how the Rev IDE will  
function.


Alternatively it would be a good choice to get the Metacard IDE and  
just place
the latest Rev engine into it. Most - if not all - of your problems  
will then

disappear.

Another annoyance is the fact that with version 3 of the Rev IDE  
the blue stack
Rev Centre keeps popping up all the time after a customized  
answer or ask
dialog has finished the execution of its script. I have not yet  
found out from
where this annoyance originates. Same recommendation as above: Get  
the Metacard

IDE.-

And: I hope the mail service of our server will now work properly.  
I saw that

even my post about Twofold posting of mail was sent twice.

Best regards,


Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia


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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

-= JB =- wrote:

I have only been using Revolution for less than a year now and before
that I used hyperCard.  I know about MetaCard but I thought it was
replaced by Rev.  So where do I get the MetaCard IDE and after I
get it how do I install it properly?


You can download the MC IDE setup stack, and it will download the latest 
IDE for you and install your copy of the Rev engine into it:


http://www.hyperactivesw.com/revnet/metacard_setup.zip

The process is all automated. I suggest including the Rev dictionary 
option at the bottom of the setup card, since the native MC dictionary 
is years out of date.




I have noticed others on the list mention they use MetaCard too.  Will
someone please explain why people use MetaCard even though they
keep using the latest version of Rev.


MC IDE is just a very stripped-down set of stacks that allow a different 
way of working with the engine. The primary difference is that the IDE 
is very minimal -- for example, there is no user interface for most of 
the properties you see in Rev's property inspector. Instead, a minimal 
property inspector lets you set the most-used properties, but for others 
you need to know they exist and use the message box to set them (or 
install a third-party or original property inspector of your own.) The 
object browser offers less functionality than the application browser in 
Rev -- it shows only the current card objects (but on the other hand, 
that's usually all I'm interested in.) There is no interface at all for 
many things, such as removing a substack, deleting a stack from RAM, 
most preferences, etc. For these things you use the message box and you 
must know the commands. You can write your own plugins to do what some 
of the Rev IDE does if you like. All the MC IDE stacks are similarly 
terse. They expect that you already know the capabilities of the engine 
and are comfortable working with the command line. The engine was 
originally written for Linux/Unix and the MC IDE reflects this level of 
comfort.


I frequently work in both IDEs depending on the stack I'm working with. 
For example, Rev tracks when a field has changed and puts up its do you 
want to save dialog if you change any text in a field. MC IDE does not. 
For those stacks that routinely change text temporarily in a field, I 
always launch MC because I don't want the interruption of dismissing the 
spurious dialog. (I have a small word processing stack, for example, 
that works with text files. I don't want the actual word processing 
stack marked as dirty just because I typed temporary text into the 
main field.)


While the disadvantage (or maybe it's an advantage) is that you need to 
have a good grasp of what the engine can do and the UI is minimal, the 
advantages are that there is almost no interference from the IDE at all. 
A tiny frontscript and a small backscript are the only insertions. The 
IDE does not get in the way, and you can be fairly certain that if you 
see a bug in the MC IDE it is more likely to be an engine bug than an 
IDE problem. The freedom to do what you want without interference is 
much greater in the MC IDE, with the caveat that with freedom comes 
responsibility -- you can more easily lose your work or wreck the stack 
because the protections that the Rev IDE offers aren't there.


For my workflow, there are advantages to both IDEs and I switch 
frequently between them.


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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread Stephen Barncard


I would very much like to know what kind of error dialog you get and which
operations could not be cancelled.


as I said, the IDE doesn't like the imbedded substack with the name 
Answer Dialog.

The custom dialog just needs another name.  The support code is trivial.

Also the code doesn't recognize cancel from file dialogs -- deletes image

and there is no cancel button on a couple of the dialogs.  The 
dialog for amount of 'tile routine' effect for one.


 I'd rather not hack the IDE to bypass what to me looks like a 
valuable protection mechanism. Rev  demands control of its namespaces 
at this time, and I just avoid them entirely. Someday, Namespaces!
Also hacking the IDE is impractical for me, as I adopt the latest 
betas and updates as they come out the hopper. And I'm sure many of 
you like the good old Metacard IDE, but it didn't speak to me.


again, thanks for your work.





One of the already known issues is the unfriendliness of the Rev IDE towards
customized answer and ask dialogs.
On the one hand among the (once) praised features of Metacard and 
Revolution was


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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread Wilhelm Sanke, FB01
-= JB =- sundown at pacifier.com wrote:

 I have only been using Revolution for less than a year now and before
 that I used hyperCard.  I know about MetaCard but I thought it was
 replaced by Rev.  So where do I get the MetaCard IDE and after I
 get it how do I install it properly?

 I have noticed others on the list mention they use MetaCard too.  Will
 someone please explain why people use MetaCard even though they
 keep using the latest version of Rev.

 thanks,
 -=JB=-

Hi -=JB=-,

as you asked on this list, I'll give a short reply here:

The proper place to get information about and discuss the MC IDE (an open
source alternative development environment for Revolution's programming
language) are two lists, one of which is indeed maintained by RunRev.

You find the free archives of the Metacard list under

http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/ and can subscribe to this list
(costfree) at
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard.

Then there is a Yahoo list

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/

where you can get the different versions of and help for the MC IDE in the
files section.

The chairman of the MC-user group as a subgroup of Revolution users is Klaus
Major, whom you will have surely noticed on this use-revolution list. Formerly,
Richard Gaskin filled this important position.

It should be duly noted that the MC-IDE users thankfully acknowledge that the
Revolution team maintain the compatibility of new Rev engines with the MC IDE. I
think this was part of the parcel negotiated at the time when Revolution
purchased the Metacard engine.

I use both IDEs when developing, with a preference for the MC IDE. I personally
get a much better workflow with MC. If you are interested, you could discuss
details offlist or on the Metacard list.

Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia


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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Wilhelm Sanke, FB01 wrote:


One of the already known issues is the unfriendliness of the Rev IDE towards
customized answer and ask dialogs. 


I'll play devil's advocate here for a moment. The warning about 
duplicate stacks does not include only the answer and ask dialogs; it 
also includes any stack with the same name as one already open. The MC 
IDE, like Rev, also warns of duplicate stacks, with the exception that 
it ignores the answer and ask duplications. But if the developer is not 
careful, it is possible to damage the native MC IDE dialogs during 
development.


Revolution used to ignore these duplications too, but changed the IDE a 
few years ago. I suspect there were too many accidents.



On the other hand the Rev IDE is  over-protective in some respects (and for
reasons that escape me) and does not like such customized dialogs.
Take a look at the script of btn revfrontscript of stack revlibrary which is
inserted as a frontscript for the Rev IDE and comment out lines 992 to 1006 in
handler revCheckStackCollision. This will stop the complaint about the answer
dialog and otherwise will have no effects on how the Rev IDE will function.


If the user has custom ask and answer dialogs, and does not receive a 
warning about them, it is easy to inadvertently change the wrong stack, 
the one in the IDE. I am working with a stack right now that has 
duplicates like this, and I am seeing lots of misdirection when I have 
my own answer dialog open. It's very important to make sure you supply a 
long stack reference to the copy you really want to save. This isn't 
always obvious to new users.




Alternatively it would be a good choice to get the Metacard IDE and just place
the latest Rev engine into it. Most - if not all - of your problems will then
disappear.


From a personal perspective I have to agree with this. When I want a 
streamlined, no-nonsense interface, I use the MC IDE. But since the 
majority of Rev users aren't as comfortable with the command line, and 
many are still learning the capabilities and language syntax of 
Revolution, I don't think this is a good answer for many users. The Rev 
IDE is much friendlier to new users than the MC IDE. Many users have 
never switched their preferences to show the language syntax in Rev's 
property inspector, and aren't even aware of the native syntax for 
properties. These users would have a difficult learning curve if they 
changed to the MC IDE where they need to type in these property names 
and other commands. (On the other hand, they'd learn it pretty quickly 
if they did.)




Another annoyance is the fact that with version 3 of the Rev IDE the blue stack
Rev Centre keeps popping up all the time after a customized answer or ask
dialog has finished the execution of its script. I have not yet found out from
where this annoyance originates. Same recommendation as above: Get the Metacard
IDE.-


This can be turned off in the General pane of Rev's preferences (last 
option at the bottom.)




And: I hope the mail service of our server will now work properly. I saw that
even my post about Twofold posting of mail was sent twice.


Seems to be fixed, I've only seen one copy of your post. :)

Like I said, I'm playing devil's advocate here. I use the MC IDE for 
lots of things. I see advantages to both, but I am not convinced the MC 
IDE is as good for very new users.


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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread -= JB =-

Jacque you always provide so much,  thank you.

-=JB=-



On Oct 12, 2008, at 11:07 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


-= JB =- wrote:

I have only been using Revolution for less than a year now and before
that I used hyperCard.  I know about MetaCard but I thought it was
replaced by Rev.  So where do I get the MetaCard IDE and after I
get it how do I install it properly?


You can download the MC IDE setup stack, and it will download the  
latest IDE for you and install your copy of the Rev engine into it:


http://www.hyperactivesw.com/revnet/metacard_setup.zip

The process is all automated. I suggest including the Rev  
dictionary option at the bottom of the setup card, since the native  
MC dictionary is years out of date.


I have noticed others on the list mention they use MetaCard too.   
Will

someone please explain why people use MetaCard even though they
keep using the latest version of Rev.


MC IDE is just a very stripped-down set of stacks that allow a  
different way of working with the engine. The primary difference is  
that the IDE is very minimal -- for example, there is no user  
interface for most of the properties you see in Rev's property  
inspector. Instead, a minimal property inspector lets you set the  
most-used properties, but for others you need to know they exist  
and use the message box to set them (or install a third-party or  
original property inspector of your own.) The object browser offers  
less functionality than the application browser in Rev -- it shows  
only the current card objects (but on the other hand, that's  
usually all I'm interested in.) There is no interface at all for  
many things, such as removing a substack, deleting a stack from  
RAM, most preferences, etc. For these things you use the message  
box and you must know the commands. You can write your own plugins  
to do what some of the Rev IDE does if you like. All the MC IDE  
stacks are similarly terse. They expect that you already know the  
capabilities of the engine and are comfortable working with the  
command line. The engine was originally written for Linux/Unix and  
the MC IDE reflects this level of comfort.


I frequently work in both IDEs depending on the stack I'm working  
with. For example, Rev tracks when a field has changed and puts up  
its do you want to save dialog if you change any text in a field.  
MC IDE does not. For those stacks that routinely change text  
temporarily in a field, I always launch MC because I don't want the  
interruption of dismissing the spurious dialog. (I have a small  
word processing stack, for example, that works with text files. I  
don't want the actual word processing stack marked as dirty just  
because I typed temporary text into the main field.)


While the disadvantage (or maybe it's an advantage) is that you  
need to have a good grasp of what the engine can do and the UI is  
minimal, the advantages are that there is almost no interference  
from the IDE at all. A tiny frontscript and a small backscript are  
the only insertions. The IDE does not get in the way, and you can  
be fairly certain that if you see a bug in the MC IDE it is more  
likely to be an engine bug than an IDE problem. The freedom to do  
what you want without interference is much greater in the MC IDE,  
with the caveat that with freedom comes responsibility -- you can  
more easily lose your work or wreck the stack because the  
protections that the Rev IDE offers aren't there.


For my workflow, there are advantages to both IDEs and I switch  
frequently between them.


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread -= JB =-

Thank you very much Wilhelm.

-=JB=-



On Oct 12, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Wilhelm Sanke, FB01 wrote:


-= JB =- sundown at pacifier.com wrote:


I have only been using Revolution for less than a year now and before
that I used hyperCard.  I know about MetaCard but I thought it was
replaced by Rev.  So where do I get the MetaCard IDE and after I
get it how do I install it properly?


I have noticed others on the list mention they use MetaCard too.   
Will

someone please explain why people use MetaCard even though they
keep using the latest version of Rev.



thanks,
-=JB=-


Hi -=JB=-,

as you asked on this list, I'll give a short reply here:

The proper place to get information about and discuss the MC IDE  
(an open
source alternative development environment for Revolution's  
programming

language) are two lists, one of which is indeed maintained by RunRev.

You find the free archives of the Metacard list under

http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/ and can subscribe to  
this list

(costfree) at
http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard.

Then there is a Yahoo list

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MC_IDE/

where you can get the different versions of and help for the MC IDE  
in the

files section.

The chairman of the MC-user group as a subgroup of Revolution users  
is Klaus
Major, whom you will have surely noticed on this use-revolution  
list. Formerly,

Richard Gaskin filled this important position.

It should be duly noted that the MC-IDE users thankfully  
acknowledge that the
Revolution team maintain the compatibility of new Rev engines with  
the MC IDE. I
think this was part of the parcel negotiated at the time when  
Revolution

purchased the Metacard engine.

I use both IDEs when developing, with a preference for the MC IDE.  
I personally
get a much better workflow with MC. If you are interested, you  
could discuss

details offlist or on the Metacard list.

Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia


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Re: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-12 Thread Wilhelm Sanke, FB01
Stephen Barncard stephenREVOLUTION2 at barncard.com wrote:

 I would very much like to know what kind of error dialog you get and which
 operations could not be cancelled.

 as I said, the IDE doesn't like the imbedded substack with the name 
 Answer Dialog.
 The custom dialog just needs another name.  The support code is trivial.

I know.

I use a number of totally customized dialogs - created from scratch - in my
stacks. See the last public version of  the Imagedata Toolkit
http://www.sanke.org/Software/ImagedataToolkitPreview3.zip and especially my
sample stack modal dialogs from 2003
http://www.sanke.org/Software/CustomModalDialogs.zip

What I - and we as the MC-user group - have done is to further develop and
improve the answer and ask dialogs, namely 
- to allow placing the dialogs anywhere
- to avoid the truly oversized width of the Rev dialogs.
This is now established standard for the dialogs in the MC IDE.

Two things concerning the Rev IDE are trivial here:

You would need only two additional script lines in the scripts of the Rev
answer and ask dialogs to achieve the option to place the dialogs. Likewise it
would be easy to diminish the disproportional width of the dialogs. The
Revolution team has apparently never paid any attention to such possible and
trivial changes.

And it would be likewise trivial to exempt answer and ask dialogs from the
stack-collision routine in the Rev frontscripts.-

I agree with Jacqueline about much of what she stated in her post of Sun Oct 12
14:09:12 CDT 2008 about the relative merits of both IDEs, but I have the feeling
that her argumentation is somewhat influenced by her double loyalty to
Revolution and Metacard (which I appreciate, and which I also feel to some
degree) - and in that downplaying disadvantages of the Rev IDE that have time
and again been discussed on both lists.

The Rev IDE has much improved over time, but IMHO is still the weakest part of
Revolution. There have been stacks with specific features not long ago that
simply could not be handled by the Rev IDE. The Application Browser would
freeze. Stacks would slow down considerably and become virtually unusable etc.
In the meantime many things have indeed improved, but a number of aspects still
urgently needs further development.

Jacqueline uses the example of the developer based on her own experience:

But if the developer is not 
careful, it is possible to damage the native MC IDE dialogs during 
development. 
and 
I am working with a stack right now that has 
duplicates like this, and I am seeing lots of misdirection when I have 
my own answer dialog open. It's very important to make sure you supply a 
long stack reference to the copy you really want to save. This isn't 
always obvious to new users.

I would distinguish here between a necessarily careful developer who should
know what he is dealing with and who is able to overcome such possible
misdirections and  a user who simply wants to use whatever sort of dialog is
provided in a given situation and who does not want to be annoyed by unwarranted
error messages.

To come back to the feedback from Stephen:

 Also the code doesn't recognize cancel from file dialogs -- deletes image

 and there is no cancel button on a couple of the dialogs.  The 
 dialog for amount of 'tile routine' effect for one.

You are right here. Using cancel when importing an image deletes the existing
image. I have already fixed that and will upload a new stack the next days.

I am not so sure about a cancel button when choosing a width for the tile
routines. Once you have decided on a tile border routine, why would you want to
cancel selecting one of the width options? And there is the reset image button
which can reset the tile image to its original state.
On the other side it surely would not hurt to add a cancel option to the
tile-routines dialogs.

So, thanks again for your feedback and appreciation and go on enjoying the stack
if you find the time.

Best regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia


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ANN: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-11 Thread Wilhelm Sanke, FB01

 Just uploaded a slightly updated version of the Seamless Tiles Generator 2 to

http://www.sanke.org/Software/SeamlessTiles2.zip

See the descriptions on page Sample Stacks on my website
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia.

Among other things this stack features an improved resizable and draggable
selection graphic that lets you choose a segment of any size from the imported
source image  to create a seamless tile.

The ink of the selection graphic needed to be adapted both to the differences
between Windows and MacOS and the stackfileversions 2.4 and 2.7.

With engine versions  2.7 we need admin for MacOS and srcAnd for Windows.
For engine versions  2.7 and higher srccopy is necessary for both platforms to
show a transparent graphic.

Moreover, I have changed the stack extension from *.mc to *.rev, to enable
users of Rev 3.0 to see and load the stack.

See the quote of my earlier post (to the Metacard- and Improve-lists) concerning
 this special problem:

 Strange change of file associations with Rev 3-gm-3 engine

 Wilhelm Sanke
 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:59:50 -0700
 Rev engine 3-gm-2 displays both *.rev and *.mc-files in the open stack 
dialog as Revolution stacks. Engine 3-gm-3 restricts the displayed stacks to 
files with the *.rev extension; even when you choose All files the display 
of mc-files is suppressed, but other files like dlls and txt files are shown. 
It is even impossible to enforce the display of mc-files by typing *.mc into
 the file name box of the open stack dialog. Putting the Revolution.exe engine 
3-gm-3 into the Metacard IDE shows the same restrictions: No mc-files are 
displayed. However, when you rename Revolution.exe to MC.exe, both 
Revolution stack-files rev and mc are displayed in the open stack 
dialog - like before in gm-2 with Revolution.exe. This holds for both IDEs,
 the Revolution and the Metacard IDE. The consequence for users that primarily
 work with the Rev IDE - but wish to access Metacard files once in a while - 
would be to rename their Rev engine to MC.exe. This works fine within the Rev
 IDE. 


Regards,


Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia



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ANN: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-11 Thread Wilhelm Sanke, FB01
 Just uploaded a slightly updated version of the Seamless Tiles Generator 2 to

http://www.sanke.org/Software/SeamlessTiles2.zip

See the descriptions on page Sample Stacks on my website
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia.

Among other things this stack features an improved resizable and draggable
selection graphic that lets you choose a segment of any size from the imported
source image  to create a seamless tile.

The ink of the selection graphic needed to be adapted both to the differences
between Windows and MacOS and the stackfileversions 2.4 and 2.7.

With engine versions  2.7 we need admin for MacOS and srcAnd for Windows.
For engine versions  2.7 and higher srccopy is necessary for both platforms to
show a transparent graphic.

Moreover, I have changed the stack extension from *.mc to *.rev, to enable
users of Rev 3.0 gm 3 to see and load the stack.

See the quote of my earlier post (to the Metacard- and Improve-lists) concerning
 this special problem:

 Strange change of file associations with Rev 3-gm-3 engine

 Wilhelm Sanke
 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:59:50 -0700
 Rev engine 3-gm-2 displays both *.rev and *.mc-files in the open stack
dialog as Revolution stacks. Engine 3-gm-3 restricts the displayed stacks to
files with the *.rev extension; even when you choose All files the display
of mc-files is suppressed, but other files like dlls and txt files are shown.
It is even impossible to enforce the display of mc-files by typing *.mc into
the file name box of the open stack dialog. Putting the Revolution.exe engine
3-gm-3 into the Metacard IDE shows the same restrictions: No mc-files are
displayed. However, when you rename Revolution.exe to MC.exe, both
Revolution stack-files rev and mc are displayed in the open stack
dialog - like before in gm-2 with Revolution.exe. This holds for both IDEs,
the Revolution and the Metacard IDE. The consequence for users that primarily
work with the Rev IDE - but wish to access Metacard files once in a while -
would be to rename their Rev engine to MC.exe. This works fine within the Rev
IDE. 


-- 
Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia


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ANN: Seamless Tiles Generator 2 updated

2008-10-11 Thread Wilhelm Sanke, FB01

 Just uploaded a slightly updated version of the Seamless Tiles Generator 2 to

http://www.sanke.org/Software/SeamlessTiles2.zip

See the descriptions on page Sample Stacks on my website
http://www.sanke.org/MetaMedia.

Among other things this stack features an improved resizable and draggable
selection graphic that lets you choose a segment of any size from the imported
source image  to create a seamless tile.

The ink of the selection graphic needed to be adapted both to the differences
between Windows and MacOS and the stackfileversions 2.4 and 2.7.

With engine versions  2.7 we need admin for MacOS and srcAnd for Windows.
For engine versions  2.7 and higher srccopy is necessary for both platforms to
show a transparent graphic.

Moreover, I have changed the stack extension from *.mc to *.rev, to enable
users of Rev 3.0 to see and load the stack.

See the quote of my earlier post (to the Metacard- and Improve-lists) concerning
 this special problem:

 Strange change of file associations with Rev 3-gm-3 engine

 Wilhelm Sanke
 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:59:50 -0700
 Rev engine 3-gm-2 displays both *.rev and *.mc-files in the open stack 
dialog as Revolution stacks. Engine 3-gm-3 restricts the displayed stacks to 
files with the *.rev extension; even when you choose All files the display 
of mc-files is suppressed, but other files like dlls and txt files are shown. 
It is even impossible to enforce the display of mc-files by typing *.mc into
 the file name box of the open stack dialog. Putting the Revolution.exe engine 
3-gm-3 into the Metacard IDE shows the same restrictions: No mc-files are 
displayed. However, when you rename Revolution.exe to MC.exe, both 
Revolution stack-files rev and mc are displayed in the open stack 
dialog - like before in gm-2 with Revolution.exe. This holds for both IDEs,
 the Revolution and the Metacard IDE. The consequence for users that primarily
 work with the Rev IDE - but wish to access Metacard files once in a while - 
would be to rename their Rev engine to MC.exe. This works fine within the Rev
 IDE. 


Regards,


Wilhelm Sanke
www.sanke.org/MetaMedia



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