Send Keys
Todd Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. I know I can use GUI scripting on OSX but that has some problems in the instance I need it in, plus I need Xplat. TIA -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
this is old and somehow got burped back into the list. Feel free to ignore :) On May 10, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Todd Geist wrote: Todd Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. I know I can use GUI scripting on OSX but that has some problems in the instance I need it in, plus I need Xplat. TIA -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
On 5/11/06 2:19 PM, Todd Geist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The target application is already running and it may have a dialog open when I begin my process. So far I have found the only way to do anything is to use mouse clicks. This sucks! How I yearn for something like QuickKeys but in Rev. I don't suppose you can use both, can you? Last time I looked, QuickKeys was scriptable, so you could tell QK to do things from Rev... of course that was several years ago... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
On May 12, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Ken Ray wrote: How I yearn for something like QuickKeys but in Rev. I don't suppose you can use both, can you? Last time I looked, QuickKeys was scriptable, so you could tell QK to do things from Rev... of course that was several years ago... Yes you can do this, but I would like to distribute this application commercially, so that really won't work for me. Now if Quick Keys just had a player that you could license that would be great! Maybe I should ask them, hmmm. Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
Hi Todd, Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. Check out the Type command. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
Thanks Rob But I wasn't very clear. I need to send key stroke from Rev to another app. Both type and click only work within the current Rev stack. I really need this QuickKeys like functionality. Unfortunately I have been unable to get GUI scripting on OSX to do what I need either. It is very frustrating :( Todd On May 11, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Hi Todd, Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. Check out the Type command. -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
Is the other app applescriptable? best, Mark On 11 May 2006, at 15:35, Todd Geist wrote: Thanks Rob But I wasn't very clear. I need to send key stroke from Rev to another app. Both type and click only work within the current Rev stack. I really need this QuickKeys like functionality. Unfortunately I have been unable to get GUI scripting on OSX to do what I need either. It is very frustrating :( Todd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
I use QuicKeys since Rev is not a system event app. The Xplat is the major issue for me. The GUI scripting has its own promise+limitations. I only plan to use GUI to read the buttons and fields on a java applet in Safari to provide feedback for programmatic decision making. This info will find it way to an OSX app or a WinXP app via ftp relay. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 5/10/06 6:47 PM, Todd Geist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. I know I can use GUI scripting on OSX but that has some problems in the instance I need it in, plus I need Xplat. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
I've been able to send keystrokes into just about any field using a combination of the David Lloyd's Extra Suites http://osaxen.com/files/extrasuites1.1.html and Prefab's UI Browser (to help you figure out what object you are trying to control) http://www.prefab.com/uibrowser/ Apple has a similar tool for UI browsing but as I recall this worked a bit better. In cases where there is no object that's registering itself with through the usual Objective-C mechanisms you can always just hard code in a location and then begin to insert text. Of course the object (text field, e.g.) must actually be at the location for it to work. 1. Don't forget to put the osax library in the right location (I think it's /System/Library/ScriptingAdditions/). 2. Play with the osax commands in a regular applescript editor until you know what's going on 3. Get your working applescript working inside a runrev stack 4. Enjoy life Hope that helps, Russ Russ McBride Programmer/Analyst The Scholar's Workstation University of California at Berkeley 510-643-6853 On May 11, 2006, at 7:35 AM, Todd Geist wrote: Thanks Rob But I wasn't very clear. I need to send key stroke from Rev to another app. Both type and click only work within the current Rev stack. I really need this QuickKeys like functionality. Unfortunately I have been unable to get GUI scripting on OSX to do what I need either. It is very frustrating :( Todd On May 11, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Hi Todd, Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. Check out the Type command. -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
Hi Russ On May 11, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Russ McBride wrote: I've been able to send keystrokes into just about any field using a combination of the David Lloyd's Extra Suites http://osaxen.com/files/extrasuites1.1.html This is basically what I am doing... but it is not fun :) and Prefab's UI Browser (to help you figure out what object you are trying to control) http://www.prefab.com/uibrowser/ Apple has a similar tool for UI browsing but as I recall this worked a bit better. I use this to, but I am curious what value does UI Browser have to Extra Suites? I have UI browser and it works great for the GUI scripting, but Extra Suite has it's own method for identifying things doesn't it? Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
Well, AppleScript syntax blows and figuring out the syntax needed to reference an object in an unknown object hierarchy blows even harder. UI browser will show you the object hierarchy and also generate a reference to the object in Applescript, saving you a lot of grief. It won't be that helpful though if you're trying to script an application that is both not applescriptable and was not programmed to register it's objects through the normal channels. I had to write a PHP script once that called an Applescript that had to punch a user name and password into a crusty old application after opening it. In the end I just figured out the coordinates of the text field and then used extrasuites to go to that location and start typing. Worked great. I thought extra suites was pretty cool. You should be able to do whatever you need to do even with a recalcitrant target application because you can use the finder to start the app, and then brute force your way to domination of the application using the virtual keyboard and mouse controls. What are you doing exactly? Best, russ Russ McBride Programmer/Analyst The Scholar's Workstation University of California at Berkeley 510-643-6853 On May 11, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Todd Geist wrote: Hi Russ On May 11, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Russ McBride wrote: I've been able to send keystrokes into just about any field using a combination of the David Lloyd's Extra Suites http://osaxen.com/files/extrasuites1.1.html This is basically what I am doing... but it is not fun :) and Prefab's UI Browser (to help you figure out what object you are trying to control) http://www.prefab.com/uibrowser/ Apple has a similar tool for UI browsing but as I recall this worked a bit better. I use this to, but I am curious what value does UI Browser have to Extra Suites? I have UI browser and it works great for the GUI scripting, but Extra Suite has it's own method for identifying things doesn't it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys
On May 11, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Russ McBride wrote: You should be able to do whatever you need to do even with a recalcitrant target application because you can use the finder to start the app, and then brute force your way to domination of the application using the virtual keyboard and mouse controls. What are you doing exactly? I am trying to create an app that works closely with another application. The other application is only partially UI scriptable and does not Respond to System Event gui scripts when any dialogs are open. Since a big part of what I am trying to do is automate dialogs this is a pain. The target application is already running and it may have a dialog open when I begin my process. So far I have found the only way to do anything is to use mouse clicks. This sucks! How I yearn for something like QuickKeys but in Rev. Todd -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Send Keys
Todd Any one know of a way to send keystrokes from Rev. I know I can use GUI scripting on OSX but that has some problems in the instance I need it in, plus I need Xplat. TIA -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e -- Todd Geist __ g e i s t i n t e r a c t i v e ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys and Window ID's?
On Dec 31, 2005, at 8:16 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: I haven't researched the docs yet, but was just wondering if Rev/DC is capable of sending key strokes to non-Rev/DC windows. If yes, could someone just point me to the command(s) that will get me going? Also, I'm still a newb to mac and want to know if OSX windows have id's and or names that I can use to send the key strokes to. Rev can't do that directly, but most applications can be controlled with AppleScript. If they are not directly AppleScriptable, you can use GUI scripting as described here http://www.apple.com/applescript/uiscripting/. Write and test your AppleScripts in the AppleScript Script Editor, then copy then over to Rev, put them in a custom property or a field, then run them like this: put the cApplescript of this stack into tScript -- where cApplescript is the name of the custom property storing the script do tScript as AppleScript HTH, Sarah Hi Sarah, Thanks for the info. I'm not sure if this is going to be possible then. I'm trying to setup some hotkeys for my Age of Empires II game. In my MS Windows days, I made a hotkey program that allowed me to just hit two keys, and then my program would take care of repetitive typing within the game. In Window, the game does have a window id, but I don't know about OSX. As for being AppleScriptable, I some how doubt this game will be cooperative in that sense. But I'll check it out just to see. Thanks to you and the others who also replied :-) -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys and Window ID's?
Thanks for the info. I'm not sure if this is going to be possible then. I'm trying to setup some hotkeys for my Age of Empires II game. In my MS Windows days, I made a hotkey program that allowed me to just hit two keys, and then my program would take care of repetitive typing within the game. In Window, the game does have a window id, but I don't know about OSX. As for being AppleScriptable, I some how doubt this game will be cooperative in that sense. But I'll check it out just to see. Yes, I don;t think this strategy will work with AoE. I suggest you look at Quickeys which is a Mac macro/hotkey program. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Send Keys and Window ID's?
Greetings, I haven't researched the docs yet, but was just wondering if Rev/DC is capable of sending key strokes to non-Rev/DC windows. If yes, could someone just point me to the command(s) that will get me going? Also, I'm still a newb to mac and want to know if OSX windows have id's and or names that I can use to send the key strokes to. Thanks in advance, -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys and Window ID's?
Hey Garret Here's a bit of an answer from something I saved: Nicolas Cueto wrote: Like Jacqueline, I too was going to suggest keyDown and keyUp. However I tried it out first myself and found that so long as the targeted key is held conti- nuously down: 1. the keyDown message is also generated continu- ously. Thus, if the variable for storing the start time is being set by the keyDown handler, then that variable will be continuously reset. (To resolve this, I tried if tTimeVar is not empty then to escape the handler, but no luck) 2. the keyUp message is also being generated. I know this because in the keyUp handler I have a put x in field y line, which results in the field continuously blinking. (I would've thought the keyUp message would be generated only after the target key was released?) Jacqueline also suggests that these key-handlers might be system specific. In which case, I'm on Win2K. It is OS-specific. On Mac OS X, keyup is only sent once when the key is released. On Mac OS 9 a keyup is sent immediately after keydown, sort of like you report. Here is one way to possibly work around the problem (I liked Phil's array suggestion): local tKeyTimes on rawkeydown k if tKeyTimes[k] = then put the milliseconds into tKeyTimes[k] end rawkeydown on rawkeyup k wait 50 milliseconds -- adjust this as needed if keysdown() contains k then pass rawkeyup -- they are still holding it get tKeyTimes[k] if it then put the milliseconds - it - 50 into tTimeVar -- holds the timing data put into tKeyTimes[k] end if end rawkeyup I didn't try it on a Windows machine though, so it may need tweaking. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Original Message - From: Garrett Hylltun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Send Keys and Window ID's? Greetings, I haven't researched the docs yet, but was just wondering if Rev/DC is capable of sending key strokes to non-Rev/DC windows. If yes, could someone just point me to the command(s) that will get me going? Also, I'm still a newb to mac and want to know if OSX windows have id's and or names that I can use to send the key strokes to. Thanks in advance, -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys and Window ID's?
Garrett, This may help you also, great stuff http://www.troz.net/Rev/tutorials/KeyCoder.rev.gz - Original Message - From: Garrett Hylltun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:52 PM Subject: Send Keys and Window ID's? Greetings, I haven't researched the docs yet, but was just wondering if Rev/DC is capable of sending key strokes to non-Rev/DC windows. If yes, could someone just point me to the command(s) that will get me going? Also, I'm still a newb to mac and want to know if OSX windows have id's and or names that I can use to send the key strokes to. Thanks in advance, -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Send Keys and Window ID's?
I haven't researched the docs yet, but was just wondering if Rev/DC is capable of sending key strokes to non-Rev/DC windows. If yes, could someone just point me to the command(s) that will get me going? Also, I'm still a newb to mac and want to know if OSX windows have id's and or names that I can use to send the key strokes to. Rev can't do that directly, but most applications can be controlled with AppleScript. If they are not directly AppleScriptable, you can use GUI scripting as described here http://www.apple.com/applescript/uiscripting/. Write and test your AppleScripts in the AppleScript Script Editor, then copy then over to Rev, put them in a custom property or a field, then run them like this: put the cApplescript of this stack into tScript -- where cApplescript is the name of the custom property storing the script do tScript as AppleScript HTH, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
