Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[David Squance]

I suppose there will never be more than three.
For longer words, perhaps, but what about POST?  ;)
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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Wilhelm Sanke]

Thanks for the various responses to my post!
Ken's confusion about "Klaus-Wilhelm" is tolerable and understandable, I 
mentioned Klaus in my post and seen from a Wisconsin perspective our 
hometowns are very near to each other, less than half the distance 
between Eau Claire and Green Bay (where I lived for half a year a couple 
of years ago).

Just curious... how long did it take you to write this?

I remember that somebody intended to produce a stack (a standalone?) at 
one of the RevCons in Malta or Monterey while holding his breath - 
Geoff, Tuviah?

Indeed, I really needed a number of deep breaths, could be around one 
hour to produce a working version for the third-grader, but I did not 
keep track of the time. However, the elements necessary for this type of 
stack were all available from past experience and needed more or less 
only to be arranged in a different way.

The next day we came across the "national-characters" problem concerning 
the difference between rawkey and numtochar values, which took me 
another hour to solve and add three lines of code for the German 
"Umlauts", but I think a hangover from the night before was involved.

Transforming the German stack to international English (at least on the 
surface) when at home again and uploading the stack to my website: again 
another hour.-

Some thoughts concerning the "anagram" issue some of you pointed out:
- When used in conjunction with a translation of the sought word (see my 
first proposal for an enhancement), there would be only one correct 
solution of the scrambled characters.

- If used as a "pure" scramble game, one way to do this would be to look 
for possible combinations of a scrambled word before and list the 
alternatives as items on the same line of the lexicon field. Checking 
for the correct and alternatively correct solutions could look like this:

"if me (the content of fld "input") is among the items of Loesung 
(meaning "solution" and containing the items) then" etc..

- You could also indicate to the user how many solutions of a scrambled 
word are possible by counting the items.

- Then there remains the help feature with buttons "help" and "more 
letters". They could be simply disabled and hidden in the case of 
alternative solutions or we provide as many parallel instances of such 
help as there are alternatives - I suppose there will never be more than 
three.

Best regards and thanks for your interest,
Wilhelm Sanke

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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Alejandro Tejada]

I really liked this stack,
Thanks a lot for sharing, Wilhem!

Notice that with short words,
the button "scramble once more"
could give the correct answer.  :-))

James Cass wrote:

> That's a very cool stack!  
> Just by coincidence the first word that came 
> up for me was "garden".  However, when I saw 
> the scrambled letters, I saw a true, one-word 
> anagram for "garden", "danger".  Let's not get
> into the psychological reasons for that  ;-P

"Garden" could be a real "Danger" for
people with pollen alergy. 
Just wait for Spring (or summer) ;-)

i discover that "Monday" has the same letters
than "Dynamo", so every monday is a scrambled dynamo.

These scrambled messages remember me a recent series
of comedy i was watching on dvd: "Wonderfalls"

In this comedy, the funniest situation arise from 
malinterpreting some supernatural messages. :-))
(Now, that the place where i live don't have
TV cable, DVD rents and buys are my best choices
while watching TV.)
  
>So, it now seems another enhancement would be
>to check for one word anagrams of the same 
set of scrambled letters.  :-)

or check with a Dictionary with anagrams! ;-)

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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Klaus Major]

Hi Ken,
...
Very cool, Klaus!
Ehm..., lots of work?
Actually it was Wilhelm who posted this, see above ;-)
Whoops! Sorry, Klaus!
No problem, could have been worse ;-)
(Man, I've been working too much...)
I guessed...
;-)
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best
Klaus Major
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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Ken Ray]

On 2/19/05 11:24 AM, "Klaus Major" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Ken,
> 
>> On 2/19/05 6:46 AM, "Wilhelm Sanke"
> 
> SIC!
> 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> While visiting a family with a third-grader I noticed a (written)
>>> foreign-language exercise that used scrambled words. As the father of
>>> the third-grader had an older Metacard version on his computer, I sat
>>> down and produced a computer version of the exercise, which the young
>>> child seemed to like very much. I added a standalone splash screen to
>>> enable the young user to make changes to the lexicon and add words of
>>> her own choice.
>> 
>> Very cool, Klaus!
> 
> Ehm..., lots of work?
> Actually it was Wilhelm who posted this, see above ;-)

Whoops! Sorry, Klaus!

(Man, I've been working too much...)

;-)


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[James Cass]

Jim -
Not sure I completely understand your dilemma, but it sounds like you 
may want to look at your User's "com.apple.LaunchServices.plist" file, 
located in "/Users/username/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices.plist" 
(or wherever the user's home folder is). :-)  This file holds file/app 
associations.

HTH.James
On Feb 19, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
 Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
A screenshot can be seen here
.
Direct download from
 (11 KB).


This presents a new OS X challenge for me.
In OS 9 I used "Fast Find" , and later Richard Gaskin's wonderful 
little AppleScript app., "Change creator" to convert MC settings to 
RunRev settings. I tried the "Open with..Other" routine in OS X 
but RunRev was not allowed (deselected) as an option.

How is this conversion performed in OS X?
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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Klaus Major]

Hi Ken,
On 2/19/05 6:46 AM, "Wilhelm Sanke"
SIC!
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
While visiting a family with a third-grader I noticed a (written)
foreign-language exercise that used scrambled words. As the father of
the third-grader had an older Metacard version on his computer, I sat
down and produced a computer version of the exercise, which the young
child seemed to like very much. I added a standalone splash screen to
enable the young user to make changes to the lexicon and add words of
her own choice.
Very cool, Klaus!
Ehm..., lots of work?
Actually it was Wilhelm who posted this, see above ;-)
Just curious... how long did it take you to write this?
Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Best
Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de
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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Jim Hurley]

 Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
A screenshot can be seen here
.
Direct download from
 (11 KB).


This presents a new OS X challenge for me.
In OS 9 I used "Fast Find" , and later Richard Gaskin's wonderful 
little AppleScript app., "Change creator" to convert MC settings to 
RunRev settings. I tried the "Open with..Other" routine in OS X 
but RunRev was not allowed (deselected) as an option.

How is this conversion performed in OS X?
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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Ken Ray]

On 2/19/05 6:46 AM, "Wilhelm Sanke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> While visiting a family with a third-grader I noticed a (written)
> foreign-language exercise that used scrambled words. As the father of
> the third-grader had an older Metacard version on his computer, I sat
> down and produced a computer version of the exercise, which the young
> child seemed to like very much. I added a standalone splash screen to
> enable the young user to make changes to the lexicon and add words of
> her own choice.

Very cool, Klaus! Just curious... how long did it take you to write this?


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Simple "word-scramble" stack

[James Cass]

Wilhelm -
That's a very cool stack!  Just by coincidence the first word that came 
up for me was "garden".  However, when I saw the scrambled letters, I 
saw a true, one-word anagram for "garden", "danger".  Let's not get 
into the psychological reasons for that  ;-PSo, it now seems 
another enhancement would be to check for one word anagrams of the same 
set of scrambled letters.  :-)

-James

On Feb 19, 2005, at 7:46 AM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
While visiting a family with a third-grader I noticed a (written) 
foreign-language exercise that used scrambled words. As the father of 
the third-grader had an older Metacard version on his computer, I sat 
down and produced a computer version of the exercise, which the young 
child seemed to like very much. I added a standalone splash screen to 
enable the young user to make changes to the lexicon and add words of 
her own choice.

I think such a stack belongs in the category "for revolution novices" 
like Klaus Major's "memory" stack or my stack "seminar01", which (the 
latter) - among other examples - contains directions to build a basic 
vocabulary trainer with gradually increasing complexity.

I have added the scramble-word stack to my website 
 on page "Sample Stacks" and "Tools for 
Development".
A screenshot can be seen here 
.
Direct download from 
 (11 KB).

The stack is an example of a "guided" exercise, where the focus is on 
"learning" and not on "testing", two pairs of shoes which are very 
often mixed up. Support - the "guidance" - for the learner is offered 
in various ways:

1. When the learner types into the input field, the typed letters 
disappear from the scramble field. Only letters contained in the 
scramble field can be typed into the input field, otherwise a 
"warning" will appear.

2. If the user deletes letters from the input field, they reappear in 
the scramble field; the learner can move the cursor inside the input 
field using the arrow keys, then press the backspace key to remove the 
letter on the left of the cursor.

3. You can re-scramble the word to possibly get a better idea what the 
word could be.

4. Pressing "Help" shows the first and last letter of the sought word 
and displays dashes as placeholders for the remaining letters in 
between.

5. Button "more letters", which appears after first pressing button 
"Help", adds more - randomly selected - letters to the help field. The 
last two dashes in a word however remain, the user has to find out 
them on his/her own.

"Simple" as it is, the exercise card of the stack needs 25 controls to 
achieve the described basic functionality and 8 of them contain 
scripts. The longest script is that of the input field, which controls 
the features 1. and 2. explained above. This script makes use of the 
"offset" function, "returninfield" and "rawkey" handlers, and the 
"selectedchunk" function, the last one to determine the place of the 
insertion point in the input field. A special problem comes up when 
you have to deal with special "national" characters, because the 
"rawkey" values in this case are different from the "numtochar" 
values; therefore I included some script lines to take care of the 
German "Umlaute" (ä, ö, ü).

Enhancements to the stack could added in many directions; in a 
workshop for Revolution newbies I would - as an example - assign the 
tasks

a) to display a translation along with the scrambled word, and
b) to add the possibility to export the lexicon to an external text 
file and to import from a choice of external files.

--Wilhelm Sanke


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Simple "word-scramble" stack

[Wilhelm Sanke]

While visiting a family with a third-grader I noticed a (written) 
foreign-language exercise that used scrambled words. As the father of 
the third-grader had an older Metacard version on his computer, I sat 
down and produced a computer version of the exercise, which the young 
child seemed to like very much. I added a standalone splash screen to 
enable the young user to make changes to the lexicon and add words of 
her own choice.

I think such a stack belongs in the category "for revolution novices" 
like Klaus Major's "memory" stack or my stack "seminar01", which (the 
latter) - among other examples - contains directions to build a basic 
vocabulary trainer with gradually increasing complexity.

I have added the scramble-word stack to my website 
 on page "Sample Stacks" and "Tools for 
Development".
A screenshot can be seen here 
.
Direct download from 
 (11 KB).

The stack is an example of a "guided" exercise, where the focus is on 
"learning" and not on "testing", two pairs of shoes which are very often 
mixed up. Support - the "guidance" - for the learner is offered in 
various ways:

1. When the learner types into the input field, the typed letters 
disappear from the scramble field. Only letters contained in the 
scramble field can be typed into the input field, otherwise a "warning" 
will appear.

2. If the user deletes letters from the input field, they reappear in 
the scramble field; the learner can move the cursor inside the input 
field using the arrow keys, then press the backspace key to remove the 
letter on the left of the cursor.

3. You can re-scramble the word to possibly get a better idea what the 
word could be.

4. Pressing "Help" shows the first and last letter of the sought word 
and displays dashes as placeholders for the remaining letters in between.

5. Button "more letters", which appears after first pressing button 
"Help", adds more - randomly selected - letters to the help field. The 
last two dashes in a word however remain, the user has to find out them 
on his/her own.

"Simple" as it is, the exercise card of the stack needs 25 controls to 
achieve the described basic functionality and 8 of them contain scripts. 
The longest script is that of the input field, which controls the 
features 1. and 2. explained above. This script makes use of the 
"offset" function, "returninfield" and "rawkey" handlers, and the 
"selectedchunk" function, the last one to determine the place of the 
insertion point in the input field. A special problem comes up when you 
have to deal with special "national" characters, because the "rawkey" 
values in this case are different from the "numtochar" values; therefore 
I included some script lines to take care of the German "Umlaute" (ä, ö, ü).

Enhancements to the stack could added in many directions; in a workshop 
for Revolution newbies I would - as an example - assign the tasks

a) to display a translation along with the scrambled word, and
b) to add the possibility to export the lexicon to an external text file 
and to import from a choice of external files.

--Wilhelm Sanke


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