Re: Tablet PC And Rev
Hello Tim, Anyone try using Rev with a Tablet PC lately. I don't have one of these machines but I have a client who is thinking of getting one. There hasn't been any discussion on the list about these devices recently but in some older posts there were issues with stylus input into Rev fields. Is that still an issue? Are there other issues related to the touch screen? Is it possible to accommodate the screen twisting and changing orientation at runtime? Any comments on Tablet PC and Rev from someone with experience is greatly appreciated. I have been using a Motion M1300 TPC as my primary Revolution hardware platform since 2005...running RRv2.6.1 and deploying on various Windows boxes with no problem. However, and I say this having not seen RRv3, Revolution lacks smooth handling of TPC Control Panel input and is deficient in several other areas. The issues are documented in my bug report #3252 at RR.com's Quality Control Center, <http://www.runrev.com/support/quality-control-center>. If you have further questions after reading the bug report, please post them. If you would like a set of demo stacks that includes handlers to deal with _some_ TPC comparability.issues, contact me privately. My (perviously-posted) comments in a nutshell: "The pen is mightier than the mouse!" My caveat: Don't buy a "convertible" TPC with an attached keyboard; buy a "slate" TPC and leave the keyboard in its box. Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee." from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tablet PC And Rev
I doubt it is a bug... seems more like a feature request to me. Alas, I have no idea whether it has been entered as either. Sorry. On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:18 PM, Tim Bleiler wrote: Thanks. Your experience with text input is consistent with older comments I found in the archives of this list. Has this problem been reported as a bug or is it more appropriately entered as a feature request? Sometimes my searches miss things. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tablet PC And Rev
Marian, Thanks. Your experience with text input is consistent with older comments I found in the archives of this list. Has this problem been reported as a bug or is it more appropriately entered as a feature request? Sometimes my searches miss things. --Tim On Nov 20, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: Tim I just created a stack with a single button and a single field named "MyField" containing the following script: On MouseUp Ask "What is your name?" Get it put it into field "MyField" End mouseUp It runs fine in both orientations, but the sticky wicket is that it does not allow input from the stylus--not even if you try to use the Tablet PC Input Panel (the insert button is dimmed out on the Input Panel). So the only way to enter text is by the keyboard. And THAT is problematic when the tablet is in portrait orientation because the keyboard is hidden behind the tablet screen. It IS possible but it is very kludgy. And, more importantly, you can NOT enter handwritten text. Or maybe you can and I just don't know how to capture such input. Sorry. M On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Tim Bleiler wrote: Marian, Thanks for your reply. It sounds like most simple stacks should run fine. Most of my text input would be pretty simple. I wonder if when the screen is rotated the working ScreenRect returns values consistent with the new screen orientation. Tim Bleiler Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 On Nov 20, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, Anyone try using Rev with a Tablet PC lately. I don't have one of these machines but I have a client who is thinking of getting one. There hasn't been any discussion on the list about these devices recently but in some older posts there were issues with stylus input into Rev fields. Is that still an issue? Tim, I have a tablet but do most of my development on a Mac and then port over to Windows. So I don't have experience actually CREATING stacks on a tablet but I do have a little experience running ported stacks on it (see my reply to your second question below. If you are talking about entering text into an input field using the stylus, I haven't tried that, but I'll see if I can get around to creating a little stack to test it. If you could give a specific example, I'll try to implement that. Are there other issues related to the touch screen? Is it possible to accommodate the screen twisting and changing orientation at runtime? I have a stack that was initially designed to be 800X400 (to allow it to play even in Win 95). It uses graphic buttons, radio buttons and check boxes and works fine on my HP 2710p tablet running Vista. The only issue is that when I rotate the screen, the stack is a bit too wide to display completely in portrait view. The fit is pretty close, so I didn't even notice it until you asked, but I suspect a stack that is much wider than 800 pixels won't work very well. HTH. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tablet PC And Rev
Tim I just created a stack with a single button and a single field named "MyField" containing the following script: On MouseUp Ask "What is your name?" Get it put it into field "MyField" End mouseUp It runs fine in both orientations, but the sticky wicket is that it does not allow input from the stylus--not even if you try to use the Tablet PC Input Panel (the insert button is dimmed out on the Input Panel). So the only way to enter text is by the keyboard. And THAT is problematic when the tablet is in portrait orientation because the keyboard is hidden behind the tablet screen. It IS possible but it is very kludgy. And, more importantly, you can NOT enter handwritten text. Or maybe you can and I just don't know how to capture such input. Sorry. M On Nov 20, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Tim Bleiler wrote: Marian, Thanks for your reply. It sounds like most simple stacks should run fine. Most of my text input would be pretty simple. I wonder if when the screen is rotated the working ScreenRect returns values consistent with the new screen orientation. Tim Bleiler Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 On Nov 20, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, Anyone try using Rev with a Tablet PC lately. I don't have one of these machines but I have a client who is thinking of getting one. There hasn't been any discussion on the list about these devices recently but in some older posts there were issues with stylus input into Rev fields. Is that still an issue? Tim, I have a tablet but do most of my development on a Mac and then port over to Windows. So I don't have experience actually CREATING stacks on a tablet but I do have a little experience running ported stacks on it (see my reply to your second question below. If you are talking about entering text into an input field using the stylus, I haven't tried that, but I'll see if I can get around to creating a little stack to test it. If you could give a specific example, I'll try to implement that. Are there other issues related to the touch screen? Is it possible to accommodate the screen twisting and changing orientation at runtime? I have a stack that was initially designed to be 800X400 (to allow it to play even in Win 95). It uses graphic buttons, radio buttons and check boxes and works fine on my HP 2710p tablet running Vista. The only issue is that when I rotate the screen, the stack is a bit too wide to display completely in portrait view. The fit is pretty close, so I didn't even notice it until you asked, but I suspect a stack that is much wider than 800 pixels won't work very well. HTH. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tablet PC And Rev
Marian, Thanks for your reply. It sounds like most simple stacks should run fine. Most of my text input would be pretty simple. I wonder if when the screen is rotated the working ScreenRect returns values consistent with the new screen orientation. Tim Bleiler Instructional Designer, HSIT University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 On Nov 20, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Marian Petrides, MD wrote: On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, Anyone try using Rev with a Tablet PC lately. I don't have one of these machines but I have a client who is thinking of getting one. There hasn't been any discussion on the list about these devices recently but in some older posts there were issues with stylus input into Rev fields. Is that still an issue? Tim, I have a tablet but do most of my development on a Mac and then port over to Windows. So I don't have experience actually CREATING stacks on a tablet but I do have a little experience running ported stacks on it (see my reply to your second question below. If you are talking about entering text into an input field using the stylus, I haven't tried that, but I'll see if I can get around to creating a little stack to test it. If you could give a specific example, I'll try to implement that. Are there other issues related to the touch screen? Is it possible to accommodate the screen twisting and changing orientation at runtime? I have a stack that was initially designed to be 800X400 (to allow it to play even in Win 95). It uses graphic buttons, radio buttons and check boxes and works fine on my HP 2710p tablet running Vista. The only issue is that when I rotate the screen, the stack is a bit too wide to display completely in portrait view. The fit is pretty close, so I didn't even notice it until you asked, but I suspect a stack that is much wider than 800 pixels won't work very well. HTH. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Tablet PC And Rev
On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, Anyone try using Rev with a Tablet PC lately. I don't have one of these machines but I have a client who is thinking of getting one. There hasn't been any discussion on the list about these devices recently but in some older posts there were issues with stylus input into Rev fields. Is that still an issue? Tim, I have a tablet but do most of my development on a Mac and then port over to Windows. So I don't have experience actually CREATING stacks on a tablet but I do have a little experience running ported stacks on it (see my reply to your second question below. If you are talking about entering text into an input field using the stylus, I haven't tried that, but I'll see if I can get around to creating a little stack to test it. If you could give a specific example, I'll try to implement that. Are there other issues related to the touch screen? Is it possible to accommodate the screen twisting and changing orientation at runtime? I have a stack that was initially designed to be 800X400 (to allow it to play even in Win 95). It uses graphic buttons, radio buttons and check boxes and works fine on my HP 2710p tablet running Vista. The only issue is that when I rotate the screen, the stack is a bit too wide to display completely in portrait view. The fit is pretty close, so I didn't even notice it until you asked, but I suspect a stack that is much wider than 800 pixels won't work very well. HTH. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Tablet PC And Rev
Hi, Anyone try using Rev with a Tablet PC lately. I don't have one of these machines but I have a client who is thinking of getting one. There hasn't been any discussion on the list about these devices recently but in some older posts there were issues with stylus input into Rev fields. Is that still an issue? Are there other issues related to the touch screen? Is it possible to accommodate the screen twisting and changing orientation at runtime? Any comments on Tablet PC and Rev from someone with experience is greatly appreciated. Thanks Tim Bleiler Instructional Designer University at Buffalo Phone: 716-829-3867 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
