Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
On May 24, 2007, at 12:41 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Anybody up for a a DXF-to-Rev object translator? The good news...I've got a project going that I call "chatCAD". Scenario: two engineers chatting on aim, yahoo, whatever...exchanging design ideas via a "whiteboard" of sorts. However, the results from a typical whiteboard app is freehand/bitmap and not very usable in any CAD program when the "skill-pooping" session is done. Besides, "freehanding" something drives most engineers nuts...we'd rather define endpoints of lines, etc., to achieve usable accuracy. So, chatCAD will use a stripped down dxf-like document to exchange graphic ideas during the session and then be fully importable to a CAD program afterwards. I will also (this is the "hopefully" part), make it 3D wireframe with help from Derbrill's "AnimationEngine". The bad news...this is a spare-time project, so it's not likely to be complete anytime soon. I can offer this...I've written many "DXF" utilities that we use in house to communicate between CAD and our home grown CNC micro- driller. As a result, I've had to read, manipulate and write DXF files many times. DXF file interpretation can get very ugly. It's not as universal as you would think. Best Regards, Timothy R. Ponn ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
Phil, > > What vector formats can be imported into Rev? Have you tried the pdf option ? Illustrator can export vector files as pdf. AFAIR pdf files can be displayed in Rev players on MacOSX and it should be also possible on Windows using altBrowser... JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
Me too, Stephen; maybe even a year or so earlier; but I keep an OS 9 version around since it exports in a lot of formats that MD seems to have dumped with their OSX version; however, they are all - as you said - bitmapped rather than vector, though the MD drawings themselves are vector. I rarely use the OSX version because of its transparency. Joe Wilkins On May 23, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: I've been a MacDraft user since 1988. It can export in a few formats, but the only one that it saves or exports that directly imports into Rev is Enhanced PICT Export from MacDraft and that's a bitmap graphic, not vector. On import Rev will ask if you want to import as a PNG (cross platform) or PICT (not cross platform). Another approach would be to save out of MacDraft as DXF (a vector based text format description language) . Anybody up for a a DXF-to- Rev object translator? sqb Hi Phil, I've just completed a coloring book using Rev. The original artwork for it was actually drawn on paper. At some point the sketches were scanned and eventually after going through a number of metamorphoses ended up as jpgs. But I also cleaned up some of them with a drawing program called MacDraft, which is able to save in a number of different formats. MD is a vector program, so you could easily copy from whatever it is you're using now and paste the drawings into MD; then save as jpgs for use in Rev. With Rev. these may either be imported or pasted to individual cards. Once they are on the cards, you can use the paint bucket (brush) tool to paint areas with different colors. I don't use Illustrator, but I should think it would also be able to save as jpg files. No? Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
I've been a MacDraft user since 1988. It can export in a few formats, but the only one that it saves or exports that directly imports into Rev is Enhanced PICT Export from MacDraft and that's a bitmap graphic, not vector. On import Rev will ask if you want to import as a PNG (cross platform) or PICT (not cross platform). Another approach would be to save out of MacDraft as DXF (a vector based text format description language) . Anybody up for a a DXF-to-Rev object translator? sqb Hi Phil, I've just completed a coloring book using Rev. The original artwork for it was actually drawn on paper. At some point the sketches were scanned and eventually after going through a number of metamorphoses ended up as jpgs. But I also cleaned up some of them with a drawing program called MacDraft, which is able to save in a number of different formats. MD is a vector program, so you could easily copy from whatever it is you're using now and paste the drawings into MD; then save as jpgs for use in Rev. With Rev. these may either be imported or pasted to individual cards. Once they are on the cards, you can use the paint bucket (brush) tool to paint areas with different colors. I don't use Illustrator, but I should think it would also be able to save as jpg files. No? Joe Wilkins -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
Recently, Phil Brouwer wrote: > I see that vector is supported in the descriptions, but I have tried > creating an illustrator file..and exported it in a couple formats...but > Revolution does not recognize. I am able to import jpg easily. > > What vector formats can be imported into Rev? Revolution has it's own vector format, but currently doesn't support importing of any common vector formats for editing. There is also no subpixel positioning of points, which can make display of vector objects somewhat coarse at times. However, Alejandro Tejada has built some tools for importing rudimentary Illustrator vectors into Rev. You must use a version 7 or 8 generated Illustrator file and I believe special effects/fills (?) are not supported, though this may have changed. Some links: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/mcEpsImportV03p.zip http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/Eps_Import_V04.zip Hope this helps. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
I think Brent explained things pretty much as I understand them as well; but I haven't found the resolution of the jpgs objectionable, even when printed out. Of course, I actually wanted the appearance to be somewhat crude as with hand drawn pictures. Your requirements may be more acute, wanting things to appear more polished. Joe Wilkins On May 23, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Phil Brouwer wrote: Joe I am a bit confused here. I thought it was possible to use Vector files in Revolution. Ideally I want vector, so I am not dependant on bitmap size. My current iShell project is photoshop layer based...with alpha channels for good but not great resolution. My ideal would be vector, so the prints would have much higher resolution. Is this not possible in Revolution? Thanks Phil Hi Phil, I've just completed a coloring book using Rev. The original artwork for it was actually drawn on paper. At some point the sketches were scanned and eventually after going through a number of metamorphoses ended up as jpgs. But I also cleaned up some of them with a drawing program called MacDraft, which is able to save in a number of different formats. MD is a vector program, so you could easily copy from whatever it is you're using now and paste the drawings into MD; then save as jpgs for use in Rev. With Rev. these may either be imported or pasted to individual cards. Once they are on the cards, you can use the paint bucket (brush) tool to paint areas with different colors. I don't use Illustrator, but I should think it would also be able to save as jpg files. No? Joe Wilkins On May 23, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Phil Brouwer wrote: Hello Exploring Revolution...here is my first question that I did not find readily in the docs. How do I import vector based graphic files. My ideal would be to use Illustrator files that are layered. I want to create a coloring book...each layer responding to input. I see that vector is supported in the descriptions, but I have tried creating an illustrator file..and exported it in a couple formats...but Revolution does not recognize. I am able to import jpg easily. What vector formats can be imported into Rev? Thanks in advance for any initial help. PS... I am looking to move from iShell to Revolution. I really admire the ease of building apps that look correct on each platform. My primary project built in iShell is a coloring book on steroids. Biggest downside of iShell that appears to be more problematic with Vista is its reliance on Quicktime. So I am looking at moving on. Thanks Phil Brouwer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
Hello. I'm not entirely sure how one would go about working with layered vector graphics in Revolution. The claim to Vector graphics is referring to graphic objects created in revolution - You can custom draw lines and shapes, but it's nowhere near as powerful as a *real* vector graphic. You can import EPS files, however, and those do support vector graphics. You might have more luck with those. Thanks, Brent Anderson Christa McAuliffe Space Education Center ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
Joe I am a bit confused here. I thought it was possible to use Vector files in Revolution. Ideally I want vector, so I am not dependant on bitmap size. My current iShell project is photoshop layer based...with alpha channels for good but not great resolution. My ideal would be vector, so the prints would have much higher resolution. Is this not possible in Revolution? Thanks Phil > Hi Phil, > > I've just completed a coloring book using Rev. The original artwork > for it was actually drawn on paper. At some point the sketches were > scanned and eventually after going through a number of metamorphoses > ended up as jpgs. But I also cleaned up some of them with a drawing > program called MacDraft, which is able to save in a number of > different formats. MD is a vector program, so you could easily copy > from whatever it is you're using now and paste the drawings into MD; > then save as jpgs for use in Rev. With Rev. these may either be > imported or pasted to individual cards. Once they are on the cards, > you can use the paint bucket (brush) tool to paint areas with > different colors. I don't use Illustrator, but I should think it > would also be able to save as jpg files. No? > > Joe Wilkins > > On May 23, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Phil Brouwer wrote: > >> Hello >> >> Exploring Revolution...here is my first question that I did not >> find readily >> in the docs. >> >> How do I import vector based graphic files. My ideal would be to use >> Illustrator files that are layered. I want to create a coloring >> book...each >> layer responding to input. >> >> I see that vector is supported in the descriptions, but I have tried >> creating an illustrator file..and exported it in a couple >> formats...but >> Revolution does not recognize. I am able to import jpg easily. >> >> What vector formats can be imported into Rev? >> >> Thanks in advance for any initial help. >> >> PS... I am looking to move from iShell to Revolution. I really >> admire the >> ease of building apps that look correct on each platform. My primary >> project built in iShell is a coloring book on steroids. Biggest >> downside of >> iShell that appears to be more problematic with Vista is its >> reliance on >> Quicktime. So I am looking at moving on. >> >> Thanks >> >> Phil Brouwer >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Vector illustrations in Revolution
Hi Phil, I've just completed a coloring book using Rev. The original artwork for it was actually drawn on paper. At some point the sketches were scanned and eventually after going through a number of metamorphoses ended up as jpgs. But I also cleaned up some of them with a drawing program called MacDraft, which is able to save in a number of different formats. MD is a vector program, so you could easily copy from whatever it is you're using now and paste the drawings into MD; then save as jpgs for use in Rev. With Rev. these may either be imported or pasted to individual cards. Once they are on the cards, you can use the paint bucket (brush) tool to paint areas with different colors. I don't use Illustrator, but I should think it would also be able to save as jpg files. No? Joe Wilkins On May 23, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Phil Brouwer wrote: Hello Exploring Revolution...here is my first question that I did not find readily in the docs. How do I import vector based graphic files. My ideal would be to use Illustrator files that are layered. I want to create a coloring book...each layer responding to input. I see that vector is supported in the descriptions, but I have tried creating an illustrator file..and exported it in a couple formats...but Revolution does not recognize. I am able to import jpg easily. What vector formats can be imported into Rev? Thanks in advance for any initial help. PS... I am looking to move from iShell to Revolution. I really admire the ease of building apps that look correct on each platform. My primary project built in iShell is a coloring book on steroids. Biggest downside of iShell that appears to be more problematic with Vista is its reliance on Quicktime. So I am looking at moving on. Thanks Phil Brouwer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Vector illustrations in Revolution
Hello Exploring Revolution...here is my first question that I did not find readily in the docs. How do I import vector based graphic files. My ideal would be to use Illustrator files that are layered. I want to create a coloring book...each layer responding to input. I see that vector is supported in the descriptions, but I have tried creating an illustrator file..and exported it in a couple formats...but Revolution does not recognize. I am able to import jpg easily. What vector formats can be imported into Rev? Thanks in advance for any initial help. PS... I am looking to move from iShell to Revolution. I really admire the ease of building apps that look correct on each platform. My primary project built in iShell is a coloring book on steroids. Biggest downside of iShell that appears to be more problematic with Vista is its reliance on Quicktime. So I am looking at moving on. Thanks Phil Brouwer ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
