Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
Robert Brenstein said, I haven't tested this with the newest engine but earlier it was like Richard mentioned: globals had to be declared within a handler. There was some technical reason for that if I recall. Yes, the globala are *declared* within a handler, but setting the globals for all can set, usually at the top of the script editor, for each section (card script, background script, button script). For example: In the card script, at the top you could set: global gCatNames, gDogNames, gGreatToys on preOpenStack doTheNeatFldLocs doEmptyLitterBox -- setTheGlobals end preOpenStack on setTheGlobals put fld catNames into gCatNames put fld dogNames into gCatNames put fld greatToys into gGreatToys end setTheGlobals ... then, in the stack script (or any control script), simply start each script page with: global gCatNames, gDogNames, gGreatToys and those globals are available to all handlers on that page. This of course, works across all subStacks as well. Ray G. Miller __ Turtlelips Productions 4009 Everett Ave. Oakland, CA 94602 MailTo:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (V) 510.530.1971 (F) 510.482.3491 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Ray G. Miller wrote: Yes, the globala are *declared* within a handler, but setting the globals for all can set, usually at the top of the script editor, for each section (card script, background script, button script). I like the word globala! If I understand you right, this is not the way I use declare and setting. I think of this as the declaration: global aaa I think of this as the setting: on yyy put ransom into aaa -- == end yyy Depending on the circumstances this might also be the initialization. Or did I misread your point, Ray? Dar Scott (Thinking of ways to use globala in a sentence.) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
Instead of doing this on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect do this global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect on openCard put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect ... Then you can access the globals from all the handlers (opencard/closecard) etc... Cheers. From: Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:37:22 +0900 What do you mean by off by themselves? doug On 1/19/04 2:47 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just declare the globals off by themselves... then do your on opencard. On Jan 18, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: I read about doing that - in a so-called script rather than in a handler. But I wasn't clear about how that works. How do script commands get executed if they are not part of a handler? doug On 1/19/04 1:32 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried creating the global outside of this handler? put it by itself before the openCard . On Jan 18, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. And while globalNames lists inChatUsers, newChatSocket and debugMode it doesn't list any of the three globals on the third line of the handler above. Any reasons why a global should no longer be among the globalNames? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a Motorola E365. Go to: http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
Yes, but, but :) If those commands are *outside* of a handler, exactly when do they actually get executed? doug On 1/19/04 4:08 PM, Jeremy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of doing this on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect do this global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect on openCard put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect ... Then you can access the globals from all the handlers (opencard/closecard) etc... Cheers. From: Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 15:37:22 +0900 What do you mean by off by themselves? doug On 1/19/04 2:47 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just declare the globals off by themselves... then do your on opencard. On Jan 18, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: I read about doing that - in a so-called script rather than in a handler. But I wasn't clear about how that works. How do script commands get executed if they are not part of a handler? doug On 1/19/04 1:32 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried creating the global outside of this handler? put it by itself before the openCard . On Jan 18, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. And while globalNames lists inChatUsers, newChatSocket and debugMode it doesn't list any of the three globals on the third line of the handler above. Any reasons why a global should no longer be among the globalNames? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath IIIÄ 2003 Ä[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath IIIÄ 2003 Ä[EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution _ Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a Motorola E365. Go to: http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 12:11 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: If those commands are *outside* of a handler, exactly when do they actually get executed? Those are called commands, but I think of them as declarations, that is, information to the compiler. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
On 1/19/04 4:41 PM, Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 12:11 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: If those commands are *outside* of a handler, exactly when do they actually get executed? Those are called commands, but I think of them as declarations, that is, information to the compiler. When do they get executed though? What if there are two different value assignments in two different scripts? doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
On 19 Jan 2004, at 05:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:05:58 +0900 From: Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 1/19/04 12:00 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/18/04 6:37 PM, Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect As this are globals is there a specific reason to do this intializing on opencard? Why not use openstack or preopenstack? . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. Did you declare the global in the button's script? global chatRect on mouseUp ... end mouseUp Yes. I think the problem is that the openCard message itself is not being sent when this stack is cloned! Can you think of a reason that might be? Thanks, doug Greetings, WA ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
On 1/19/04 7:15 PM, Wouter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Jan 2004, at 05:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:05:58 +0900 From: Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On 1/19/04 12:00 PM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/18/04 6:37 PM, Doug Lerner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect As this are globals is there a specific reason to do this intializing on opencard? Why not use openstack or preopenstack? No. No particular reason. I have it working now. I was just trying, as this point, to figure out why the openCard message wasn't being sent. It appears that maybe the cause was because *at the moment of cloning* the stack was invisible. So even though I set the visible to true after opening, in the meantime the openCard handler was not automatically set. doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 12:54 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: If those commands are *outside* of a handler, exactly when do they actually get executed? Those are called commands, but I think of them as declarations, that is, information to the compiler. When do they get executed though? What if there are two different value assignments in two different scripts? They don't get executed as I view them. They just tell the compiler how to handle them when they come up. They apply from that point onward. global a -- all mention of a after here means global on yyy put 42 into a -- put 42 into global a end yyy Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
In the script: -- global gmyone, gmytwo, gmythree on openCard do something end openCard on preOpencard do something else end preOpencard -- tom On Jan 19, 2004, at 1:37 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: What do you mean by off by themselves? doug On 1/19/04 2:47 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just declare the globals off by themselves... then do your on opencard. On Jan 18, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: I read about doing that - in a so-called script rather than in a handler. But I wasn't clear about how that works. How do script commands get executed if they are not part of a handler? doug On 1/19/04 1:32 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried creating the global outside of this handler? put it by itself before the openCard . On Jan 18, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. And while globalNames lists inChatUsers, newChatSocket and debugMode it doesn't list any of the three globals on the third line of the handler above. Any reasons why a global should no longer be among the globalNames? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
Dar Scott wrote: On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 12:54 AM, Doug Lerner wrote: If those commands are *outside* of a handler, exactly when do they actually get executed? Those are called commands, but I think of them as declarations, that is, information to the compiler. When do they get executed though? What if there are two different value assignments in two different scripts? They don't get executed as I view them. They just tell the compiler how to handle them when they come up. They apply from that point onward. global a -- all mention of a after here means global on yyy put 42 into a -- put 42 into global a end yyy Does that work for globals? I'd thought only locals were documented as having this option. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Does that work for globals? I'd thought only locals were documented as having this option. From the TD: You can place the global command either in a handler, or in a script but outside any handler in the script: I also ran a test. (You had me worried for a bit.) Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
Have you tried creating the global outside of this handler? put it by itself before the openCard . On Jan 18, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. And while globalNames lists inChatUsers, newChatSocket and debugMode it doesn't list any of the three globals on the third line of the handler above. Any reasons why a global should no longer be among the globalNames? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
I read about doing that - in a so-called script rather than in a handler. But I wasn't clear about how that works. How do script commands get executed if they are not part of a handler? doug On 1/19/04 1:32 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried creating the global outside of this handler? put it by itself before the openCard . On Jan 18, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. And while globalNames lists inChatUsers, newChatSocket and debugMode it doesn't list any of the three globals on the third line of the handler above. Any reasons why a global should no longer be among the globalNames? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
just declare the globals off by themselves... then do your on opencard. On Jan 18, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: I read about doing that - in a so-called script rather than in a handler. But I wasn't clear about how that works. How do script commands get executed if they are not part of a handler? doug On 1/19/04 1:32 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried creating the global outside of this handler? put it by itself before the openCard . On Jan 18, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. And while globalNames lists inChatUsers, newChatSocket and debugMode it doesn't list any of the three globals on the third line of the handler above. Any reasons why a global should no longer be among the globalNames? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration
What do you mean by off by themselves? doug On 1/19/04 2:47 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just declare the globals off by themselves... then do your on opencard. On Jan 18, 2004, at 11:40 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: I read about doing that - in a so-called script rather than in a handler. But I wasn't clear about how that works. How do script commands get executed if they are not part of a handler? doug On 1/19/04 1:32 PM, Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried creating the global outside of this handler? put it by itself before the openCard . On Jan 18, 2004, at 9:37 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: In an openCard handler I have: on openCard global debugMode global inChatUsers, newChatSocket global chatRect, chatRectHalf, wbRect put 8,8,596,314 into chatRect . . . But a button in that card doesn't seem to know the value of chatRect. And while globalNames lists inChatUsers, newChatSocket and debugMode it doesn't list any of the three globals on the third line of the handler above. Any reasons why a global should no longer be among the globalNames? Thanks, doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.1.2 Advanced Media Group Thomas J McGrath III 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 220 Drake Road, Bethel Park, PA 15102 ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
