Re: Where is going Apple ?

2010-05-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
sigh
On May 11, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Randall Reetz wrote:

 Its amazing how typical it is to react to rejection this way...  The girl 
 everyone wants says no and all of a sudden she is called ugly, fat and 
 stupid.  Yogi Berra (spelling?) quote: Nobody eats there anymore, its too 
 crowded.  I don't agree with a lot of apple's decisions, but the real 
 travesty is that no other companies seem to be able to offer any products 
 even remotely as compelling. I don't see abstinence as a choice.  People go 
 on hunger strikes as a reaction to the lack of choice.  How long ago did 
 hypercard come out?  Thirty five years ago?  And nothing of merit since?  
 What kind of user-empowering tech would it take to do for people now what 
 hypercard did for people then?
 
 Randall  

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Where is going Apple ?

2010-05-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
Dear Friends,

Apple, like U.S., Europe and Japan, is betting its future as a supplier of 
premium products for customers rich representing demand immediate solvent but 
tends more and more reduced.

China, like Google (and hopefully RunRev), is betting its future as a provider 
of essential goods immediately accessible to the largest number in a logical 
expansion of effective demand than by direct conversion of productivity gains 
in performance for maximum accessibility products offered (capitalism low cost).

Guess who will win the economic war to end the crisis ?

--

Apple, à l'image des USA, de l'Europe et du Japon, parie son avenir comme 
fournisseur de produits haut de gamme destinés à une clientèle riche 
représentant une demande immédiatement solvable mais tendanciellement de plus 
en plus réduite.

La Chine, à l'image de Google (et, espérons-le RunRev), parie son avenir comme 
fournisseur de produits de première nécessité immédiatement accessibles au plus 
grand nombre dans une logique d'élargissement maximum de la demande solvable 
par conversion directe des gains de productivité en performance d'accessibilité 
maximale des produits proposés (capitalisme low-cost).

Devinons qui va gagner la guerre économique de sortie de crise ?

--
Pierre Sahores
mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70

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Re: Where is going Apple ?

2010-05-11 Thread Bob Sneidar
You may have a good point, but I'd like to point out that you are not stating 
facts, but rather a point of view. 

Bob


On May 11, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:

 Dear Friends,
 
 Apple, like U.S., Europe and Japan, is betting its future as a supplier of 
 premium products for customers rich representing demand immediate solvent but 
 tends more and more reduced.
 
 China, like Google (and hopefully RunRev), is betting its future as a 
 provider of essential goods immediately accessible to the largest number in a 
 logical expansion of effective demand than by direct conversion of 
 productivity gains in performance for maximum accessibility products offered 
 (capitalism low cost).
 
 Guess who will win the economic war to end the crisis ?

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Re: Where is going Apple ?

2010-05-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
You are right.

Best Regards,

P.

Le 11 mai 2010 à 19:04, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

 You may have a good point, but I'd like to point out that you are not stating 
 facts, but rather a point of view. 
 
 Bob
 
 
 On May 11, 2010, at 3:06 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote:
 
 Dear Friends,
 
 Apple, like U.S., Europe and Japan, is betting its future as a supplier of 
 premium products for customers rich representing demand immediate solvent 
 but tends more and more reduced.
 
 China, like Google (and hopefully RunRev), is betting its future as a 
 provider of essential goods immediately accessible to the largest number in 
 a logical expansion of effective demand than by direct conversion of 
 productivity gains in performance for maximum accessibility products offered 
 (capitalism low cost).
 
 Guess who will win the economic war to end the crisis ?
 
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Re: Where is going Apple ?

2010-05-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 On 11/05/2010 22:39, Pierre Sahores wrote:

You are right.

Best Regards,

P.

Le 11 mai 2010 à 19:04, Bob Sneidar a écrit :


You may have a good point, but I'd like to point out that you are not stating 
facts, but rather a point of view.

Bob




As none of us can see into the workings of either Steve Jobs' mind, or 
the corporate mind
of Apple, it seems that everything that is stated re the recent 
cafuffle is opinion

beyond restating what has already been stated.

Rubbishing Apple won't help one bit; it is what it is; one can either 
choose to live

with the thing, or not.

The fact that RunRev (et al) has felt that Jobs' ruling is a kick in the 
pants is an opinion;
until Steve Jobs pops over and physically kicks the RunRev people it it 
a feeling; however

unpleasant it may feel.

--

Many years ago I was working on a farm (mucking out beeves); and turned 
up every day
at 5 am to get on with my work. One day the farmer told me he didn't 
want me to work
for him any more. I asked him why; and he said that he didn't feel a 
need to tell me.


So I went home, feeling dejected, unloved, and so on.

The next day I walked about 30 miles round lots of other farms, and by 
sundown

had got a new job; felt wanted and loved.

2 weeks later the farmer who dismissed me went bust. Poor chap; he is 
now a raving alcoholic

who props up the local bar.

So; until every farmer tells me he doesn't want my labour I will keep on 
smiling.

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RE: Where is going Apple ?

2010-05-11 Thread Randall Reetz
Its amazing how typical it is to react to rejection this way...  The girl 
everyone wants says no and all of a sudden she is called ugly, fat and 
stupid.  Yogi Berra (spelling?) quote: Nobody eats there anymore, its too 
crowded.  I don't agree with a lot of apple's decisions, but the real travesty 
is that no other companies seem to be able to offer any products even remotely 
as compelling. I don't see abstinence as a choice.  People go on hunger strikes 
as a reaction to the lack of choice.  How long ago did hypercard come out?  
Thirty five years ago?  And nothing of merit since?  What kind of 
user-empowering tech would it take to do for people now what hypercard did for 
people then?

Randall  

-Original Message-
From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:00 AM
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: iChoose

Luis-

Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 8:54:07 AM, you wrote:

 Maybe Apple should think of opening another store, iChoose, just for
 those apps that are not created with their chosen languages, caveats and
 all.

...or they could open another store, iPass, for everyone who is too
disgusted by their policies to buy the hardware...

-- 
-Mark Wieder
 mwie...@ahsoftware.net

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-Original Message-
From: Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:01 PM
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: Re: Where is going Apple ?

  On 11/05/2010 22:39, Pierre Sahores wrote:
 You are right.

 Best Regards,

 P.

 Le 11 mai 2010 à 19:04, Bob Sneidar a écrit :

 You may have a good point, but I'd like to point out that you are not 
 stating facts, but rather a point of view.

 Bob



As none of us can see into the workings of either Steve Jobs' mind, or 
the corporate mind
of Apple, it seems that everything that is stated re the recent 
cafuffle is opinion
beyond restating what has already been stated.

Rubbishing Apple won't help one bit; it is what it is; one can either 
choose to live
with the thing, or not.

The fact that RunRev (et al) has felt that Jobs' ruling is a kick in the 
pants is an opinion;
until Steve Jobs pops over and physically kicks the RunRev people it it 
a feeling; however
unpleasant it may feel.

--

Many years ago I was working on a farm (mucking out beeves); and turned 
up every day
at 5 am to get on with my work. One day the farmer told me he didn't 
want me to work
for him any more. I asked him why; and he said that he didn't feel a 
need to tell me.

So I went home, feeling dejected, unloved, and so on.

The next day I walked about 30 miles round lots of other farms, and by 
sundown
had got a new job; felt wanted and loved.

2 weeks later the farmer who dismissed me went bust. Poor chap; he is 
now a raving alcoholic
who props up the local bar.

So; until every farmer tells me he doesn't want my labour I will keep on 
smiling.
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