Re: Why no closeField messages sent?
I see that now.:) RTM, right? I was thrown off by the use of focus - Sent to a field when the focus is being removed from that field and the field's content has changed. - and the focus command. In my mind the user selects and types; the programer shifts focus. In fact the focus does change when the user selects a field. But also the focus can change without any user interaction. In fact a put into the fld can stifle the closeField message. Make a card with two flds. In fld 1 on keyDown theKey if theKey is r then put rule after fld 1 exit keyDown else pass keyDown end if end keyDown In the card's script trap the closeField message on closeField beep end closeField Now type 'dogsrtab' (where tab is the tab key). No beep even though the user has clicked and typed in the field. But you can type 'dogsrtheworldtab' and get a closeField to fire off. I understand the compatibility problems with HyperCard and now in turn Revolution, but shouldn't there be a fieldTouched and/or fieldDirtied message? Michael On Jan 12, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look at the second paragraph under the Comments section of Rev's docs on the closeField message. They explicitly state that the put command does *not* trigger a closeField message (at least as of 2.5). On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:36 PM, Michael D Mays wrote: Compatibilty is extended to the documentation. Neither docs state that the message is sent only after user interaction.;) Is there a message sent or property changed when the field is dirtied? On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:28 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/11/05 5:14 PM, Michael D Mays wrote: If I do this from a handler select char 1 of fld 1 select char 2 of fld 2 an exitField message is sent from fld 1. But I cannot programatically select a fld, modify it, exit it and generate a closeField message. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible? If not, why not?:) CloseField is only sent after user editing, not after changes from a script. It may be due to historical reasons, to maintain compatibility with HyperCard which does the same thing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB5afS7aqtWrR9cZoRAhDWAJ0RhyEA38Khe4a0JpQbhOAHIbMvYQCdEg7K 9hKdYvQpE5kYFfSmFJk0QCs= =VOVp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why no closeField messages sent?
On 1/13/05 7:41 AM, Michael D Mays wrote: I see that now.:) RTM, right? I was thrown off by the use of focus - Sent to a field when the focus is being removed from that field and the field's content has changed. - and the focus command. In my mind the user selects and types; the programer shifts focus. In fact the focus does change when the user selects a field. But also the focus can change without any user interaction. In fact a put into the fld can stifle the closeField message. Make a card with two flds. In fld 1 on keyDown theKey if theKey is r then put rule after fld 1 exit keyDown else pass keyDown end if end keyDown In the card's script trap the closeField message on closeField beep end closeField Now type 'dogsrtab' (where tab is the tab key). No beep even though the user has clicked and typed in the field. But you can type 'dogsrtheworldtab' and get a closeField to fire off. I understand the compatibility problems with HyperCard and now in turn Revolution, but shouldn't there be a fieldTouched and/or fieldDirtied message? The keydown message doesn't catch most of the control keys or other non-alphanumeric keypresses. If you want to catch those, use rawKeyDown instead. Or, for this particular instance, you could just use a tabKey handler to catch the tab. (Note that Macs don't send any keypress info if you depress the Cmd key without a second key modifier. The same is true for some others; option and shift, I think.) The reason it works with 'dogsrtab' is because the string contains non-tab characters that do get caught by a keydown handler. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Why no closeField messages sent?
Do you need to? Closefield is sent when you change the contents of field manually - the put command will not change it. Select will not change it either, as that does not actually cause a change. However, if you need it to, you can just add... Send CloseField to field Field Name At the end of your handler - that'll send it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael D Mays Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:14 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Why no closeField messages sent? If I do this from a handler select char 1 of fld 1 select char 2 of fld 2 an exitField message is sent from fld 1. But I cannot programatically select a fld, modify it, exit it and generate a closeField message. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible? If not, why not?:) Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why no closeField messages sent?
On 1/11/05 5:14 PM, Michael D Mays wrote: If I do this from a handler select char 1 of fld 1 select char 2 of fld 2 an exitField message is sent from fld 1. But I cannot programatically select a fld, modify it, exit it and generate a closeField message. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible? If not, why not?:) CloseField is only sent after user editing, not after changes from a script. It may be due to historical reasons, to maintain compatibility with HyperCard which does the same thing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why no closeField messages sent?
Compatibilty is extended to the documentation. Neither docs state that the message is sent only after user interaction.;) Is there a message sent or property changed when the field is dirtied? On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:28 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/11/05 5:14 PM, Michael D Mays wrote: If I do this from a handler select char 1 of fld 1 select char 2 of fld 2 an exitField message is sent from fld 1. But I cannot programatically select a fld, modify it, exit it and generate a closeField message. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible? If not, why not?:) CloseField is only sent after user editing, not after changes from a script. It may be due to historical reasons, to maintain compatibility with HyperCard which does the same thing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Why no closeField messages sent?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look at the second paragraph under the Comments section of Rev's docs on the closeField message. They explicitly state that the put command does *not* trigger a closeField message (at least as of 2.5). On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:36 PM, Michael D Mays wrote: Compatibilty is extended to the documentation. Neither docs state that the message is sent only after user interaction.;) Is there a message sent or property changed when the field is dirtied? On Jan 12, 2005, at 10:28 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 1/11/05 5:14 PM, Michael D Mays wrote: If I do this from a handler select char 1 of fld 1 select char 2 of fld 2 an exitField message is sent from fld 1. But I cannot programatically select a fld, modify it, exit it and generate a closeField message. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible? If not, why not?:) CloseField is only sent after user editing, not after changes from a script. It may be due to historical reasons, to maintain compatibility with HyperCard which does the same thing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - --- Frank D. Engel, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ln -s /usr/share/kjvbible /usr/manual $ true | cat /usr/manual | grep John 3:16 John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. $ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFB5afS7aqtWrR9cZoRAhDWAJ0RhyEA38Khe4a0JpQbhOAHIbMvYQCdEg7K 9hKdYvQpE5kYFfSmFJk0QCs= =VOVp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 120MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Why no closeField messages sent?
If I do this from a handler select char 1 of fld 1 select char 2 of fld 2 an exitField message is sent from fld 1. But I cannot programatically select a fld, modify it, exit it and generate a closeField message. What am I doing wrong? Is it possible? If not, why not?:) Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
