Re: Zombie Win icon
On 12 May 2010, at 10:22 pm, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: I don't know the exact answer, but I've never encountered the problem because I always save standalones into a new folder, and I never replace older ones in a folder with newer builds. I just toss the entire old folder and use the new one. So maybe that's the quick solution. Alternately, if the thumbs.db file is the culprit, you could try just deleting that. That should force the OS to read the embedded icons in the app instead. OK. It seems that I couldn't find the Thumbs.db file because Vista doesn't have them! In Windows Vista Thumbs.db file has been replaced by a number of thumbcache_xxx.db files which are now located within a user's profile at \Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer The zombie icon symptom is normal behaviour for the system: ...when a graphic is viewed and an entry made for it in the database, it is maintained indefinitely by the operating system. If the file is deleted, the image will remain unless the file or the entire folder are deleted. Local Thumbs.db and the finder.dat files have irritated me in the past, and tripped up some of my scripts. However, suddenly they seem quite sensible compared with a giant, unmodifiable central database. So. In short. Don't do what I did, do what Jacqueline does. (Actually, a good general rule in matters Rev) David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Zombie Win icon
Hello folks, More Windows icon weirdness, I am afraid. I had a home made icon for a standalone very close to release. I used IcoFX as recommended on this list. I posted recently that my icon looked horrible and dithered on Windows, displaying a small icon even when a big one is required (all sizes are included in build, and Rev accepts the ico as valid when building). Sadly, I didn't get any suggestions on list, but someone else suggested that perhaps it was a problem with the source image I used to build the icon. So I commissioned a very different looking one from a professional illustrator, and looks great. (I am never going to mess around designing icons again) Now, I use Rev studio, so the procedure is: Build icon in Win (Vista) using IcoFX and my great new artwork Save Mac Win icons to memory stick Build standalone on Mac (referencing icons) Copy Win standalone to stick Launch standalone in Vista The mac standalone with new icon looks lovely On Vista, when viewed on the memory stick the new icon only appears at small sizes, with a generic blue screen icon used at larger sizes. AND if I drag the app to the Win hard drive, the icon changes to the horrible old dithered one I no longer use. So, it seems Vista allows a dead icon to rise from the grave and take over a standalone, irrespective of the icon that has been used in the Rev build. Can this be true? If so: 1/ What is the silver bullet needed to kill off my horrible first icon? (I know, silver bullet is vampires...) 2/ Why does my IcoFX icon only appear at small sizes when all sizes are built into the icon? Thanks for any advice David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zombie Win icon
I'm sorry, David, I don't know the answers to your questions; 1/ What is the silver bullet needed to kill off my horrible first icon? (I know, silver bullet is vampires...) 2/ Why does my IcoFX icon only appear at small sizes when all sizes are built into the icon? But, having experienced the same sort of nonsense I invested in Axialis IconWorkshop: http://www.axialis.com/iconworkshop/ (which works extremely well under WINE on Linux) and left all those problems behind me. It is, however, $50 . . . but it is a real case of 'you get what you pay for'. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zombie Win icon
On 12 May 2010, at 2:22 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I'm sorry, David, I don't know the answers to your questions; 1/ What is the silver bullet needed to kill off my horrible first icon? (I know, silver bullet is vampires...) 2/ Why does my IcoFX icon only appear at small sizes when all sizes are built into the icon? Hmm... The horrible old icon only appears in folders in which I have previously saved the standalone with the old icon. New folder = correct icon. Maybe icons their associations get saved in thumbs.db and aren't smart enough to update? However, I can't work out how to show the thumbs.db file on Vista :-/ any suggestions? I also found that IcoFX can change the icon associated with a .exe file. Setting the icon this way seems to make it behave a bit better that via the Rev build standalone options. Not quite ready to fork out $50 yet.surely there must be Windows folks out there who understand this stuff? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zombie Win icon
I suspect there is a hidden or even a system file. Did you try showing hidden and system files to see what is in those directories? Bob On May 12, 2010, at 8:58 AM, David Glasgow wrote: On 12 May 2010, at 2:22 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I'm sorry, David, I don't know the answers to your questions; 1/ What is the silver bullet needed to kill off my horrible first icon? (I know, silver bullet is vampires...) 2/ Why does my IcoFX icon only appear at small sizes when all sizes are built into the icon? Hmm... The horrible old icon only appears in folders in which I have previously saved the standalone with the old icon. New folder = correct icon. Maybe icons their associations get saved in thumbs.db and aren't smart enough to update? However, I can't work out how to show the thumbs.db file on Vista :-/ any suggestions? I also found that IcoFX can change the icon associated with a .exe file. Setting the icon this way seems to make it behave a bit better that via the Rev build standalone options. Not quite ready to fork out $50 yet.surely there must be Windows folks out there who understand this stuff? David Glasgow ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Zombie Win icon
David Glasgow wrote: Hmm... The horrible old icon only appears in folders in which I have previously saved the standalone with the old icon. New folder = correct icon. Maybe icons their associations get saved in thumbs.db and aren't smart enough to update? However, I can't work out how to show the thumbs.db file on Vista :-/ any suggestions? I don't know the exact answer, but I've never encountered the problem because I always save standalones into a new folder, and I never replace older ones in a folder with newer builds. I just toss the entire old folder and use the new one. So maybe that's the quick solution. Alternately, if the thumbs.db file is the culprit, you could try just deleting that. That should force the OS to read the embedded icons in the app instead. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
