Re: about media...

2006-06-26 Thread Ben Rubinstein

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Richard Gaskin wrote:

Andre Garzia wrote:

I am a Enterprise licensee, I received Rev Media as a Freebie 
because  I went to RevConWest and I must say, I like it. I've already 
created  little adventures with photos that don't mesh well, created 
kiosks  for un existant things and am now playing on creating a 
portfolio for  my cat.


I am really enjoying this template thing, we should build more.


That would be cool, but as I understand it even the most experienced 
Enterprise developers are excluded from creating Media templates 
because of Media's unique file format.


If you mean the 2.7 file format on disk, Media can read any stack 
produced by any edition of Revolution. Enterprise users could write 
templates as long as they knew the specs for the template stacks.


Is the reverse also true, ie can Enterprise users edit stacks created by Media 
(and then have them read by Media again)?  (Albeit obviously in Enterprise the 
templates wouldn't be available, I imagine.)


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Re: about media...

2006-06-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

Ben Rubinstein wrote:

Is the reverse also true, ie can Enterprise users edit stacks created by 
Media (and then have them read by Media again)? 


Yes.

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Re: about media...

2006-06-26 Thread Richard Gaskin

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Ben Rubinstein wrote:

Is the reverse also true, ie can Enterprise users edit stacks created by 
Media (and then have them read by Media again)? 


Yes.



I'm confused:  I thought the idea with the file format change was to 
prevent Media people from handing their stacks to owners of Studio and 
Enterprise to make standalones from them.


Enterprise and Studio use the same format, so if those products can both 
read and write Media stacks what's the point?


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Re: about media...

2006-06-26 Thread simplsol

Richard, Richard, Richard,
Obviously you know nothing about marketing.
What the Rev. team has done is take Studio, remove the standalone 
builder, add a bunch of exclusive templates (not even available on the 
ultra premium Rev Enterprise), and reduce the price by $200.
If you can't see the briliance in that, you should just stick with 
programming ;-)

Paul Looney

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Subject: Re: about media...

  J. Landman Gay wrote: 
 Ben Rubinstein wrote: 
   Is the reverse also true, ie can Enterprise users edit stacks 
created by  Media (and then have them read by Media again)?   Yes. 

 
 I'm confused: I thought the idea with the file format change was to 
prevent Media people from handing their stacks to owners of Studio and 
Enterprise to make standalones from them. 

 
 Enterprise and Studio use the same format, so if those products can 
both read and write Media stacks what's the point? 

 
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Re: about media...

2006-06-26 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richard Gaskin wrote:

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Ben Rubinstein wrote:

Is the reverse also true, ie can Enterprise users edit stacks created 
by Media (and then have them read by Media again)? 


Yes.



I'm confused:  I thought the idea with the file format change was to 
prevent Media people from handing their stacks to owners of Studio and 
Enterprise to make standalones from them.


Not exactly. They could do that. If they find they need to do it too 
often, they'll probably just upgrade to Studio. Lots of people have done 
that, because asking someone else to repeatedly do builds for you is a 
pain in the tochus.




Enterprise and Studio use the same format, so if those products can both 
read and write Media stacks what's the point?


The point is to disallow faking a standalone with a Media stack. Stacks 
saved in Media will not open in a standalone, with the exception of 
Runtime's Player which has special compensations for Media stacks. All 
licensed editions can read stacks saved by any other edition, provided 
the edition can read 2.7 file format (which is the only format Media can 
save in.) However, once a Media user saves a stack, they can't fake a 
standalone by using something like StackRunner, for example.


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Re: about media...

2006-06-25 Thread Sivakatirswami
Is it available for Enterprise users? or we have to pay another   
license fee?


On Jun 23, 2006, at 3:27 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Richard Gaskin wrote:

Currently Media is a sort of all you can eat buffet, with little  
market overlap among templates.  Is there an area we might focus  
on to help target a specific market segment?


I don't know. To be honest, I haven't really had much time to even  
look at Media, but the Rev team would be the people to ask. I  
really *should* go look at Media, actually, because my parrots are  
in it. :)


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RE: about media...

2006-06-25 Thread Lynn Fredricks
  If you mean the 2.7 file format on disk, Media can read any stack 
  produced by any edition of Revolution. Enterprise users could write 
  templates as long as they knew the specs for the template stacks.
 
 Cool - thanks for the clarification.
 
 Currently Media is a sort of all you can eat buffet, with 
 little market overlap among templates.  Is there an area we 
 might focus on to help target a specific market segment?

Somebody's been picking from my steamer here ;-)

They target the prosumer graphics market, though kiosk builder doesn't quite
fit between the tatter tots and sweet corn (remove kiosk builder and the
others gel better). On the other hand, if you fit that segment and are a
student, kiosk builder is nice for building projects for school since it
shows text along with the graphic.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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RE: about media...

2006-06-25 Thread Lynn Fredricks
 Is it available for Enterprise users? or we have to pay another   
 license fee?

Revolution Media is $49 and not a part of Enterprise.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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about media...

2006-06-23 Thread Andre Garzia

Folks,

I am a Enterprise licensee, I received Rev Media as a Freebie because  
I went to RevConWest and I must say, I like it. I've already created  
little adventures with photos that don't mesh well, created kiosks  
for un existant things and am now playing on creating a portfolio for  
my cat.


I am really enjoying this template thing, we should build more.

Cheers
andre
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Re: about media...

2006-06-23 Thread Richard Gaskin

Andre Garzia wrote:

I am a Enterprise licensee, I received Rev Media as a Freebie because  
I went to RevConWest and I must say, I like it. I've already created  
little adventures with photos that don't mesh well, created kiosks  
for un existant things and am now playing on creating a portfolio for  
my cat.


I am really enjoying this template thing, we should build more.


That would be cool, but as I understand it even the most experienced 
Enterprise developers are excluded from creating Media templates because 
of Media's unique file format.


But of course it would be even more beneficial for RunRev than us to be 
able to make new templates for Media -- is there a way to do that?


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Re: about media...

2006-06-23 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richard Gaskin wrote:

Andre Garzia wrote:

I am a Enterprise licensee, I received Rev Media as a Freebie because  
I went to RevConWest and I must say, I like it. I've already created  
little adventures with photos that don't mesh well, created kiosks  
for un existant things and am now playing on creating a portfolio for  
my cat.


I am really enjoying this template thing, we should build more.


That would be cool, but as I understand it even the most experienced 
Enterprise developers are excluded from creating Media templates because 
of Media's unique file format.


If you mean the 2.7 file format on disk, Media can read any stack 
produced by any edition of Revolution. Enterprise users could write 
templates as long as they knew the specs for the template stacks.


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Re: about media...

2006-06-23 Thread Richard Gaskin

J. Landman Gay wrote:


Richard Gaskin wrote:

Andre Garzia wrote:

I am a Enterprise licensee, I received Rev Media as a Freebie because  
I went to RevConWest and I must say, I like it. I've already created  
little adventures with photos that don't mesh well, created kiosks  
for un existant things and am now playing on creating a portfolio for  
my cat.


I am really enjoying this template thing, we should build more.


That would be cool, but as I understand it even the most experienced 
Enterprise developers are excluded from creating Media templates because 
of Media's unique file format.


If you mean the 2.7 file format on disk, Media can read any stack 
produced by any edition of Revolution. Enterprise users could write 
templates as long as they knew the specs for the template stacks.


Cool - thanks for the clarification.

Currently Media is a sort of all you can eat buffet, with little 
market overlap among templates.  Is there an area we might focus on to 
help target a specific market segment?


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Re: about media...

2006-06-23 Thread J. Landman Gay

Richard Gaskin wrote:

Currently Media is a sort of all you can eat buffet, with little 
market overlap among templates.  Is there an area we might focus on to 
help target a specific market segment?


I don't know. To be honest, I haven't really had much time to even look 
at Media, but the Rev team would be the people to ask. I really *should* 
go look at Media, actually, because my parrots are in it. :)


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