Re: list email address security
> Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:47:02 -0500 > From: curry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: list email address security > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Filters are good, but preventing spam is just as legitimate and > important as dealing with it when it happens. I'd be surprised if > that were considered a controversial viewpoint! I understand your concerns, and I do have this matter on my to do list. I think the suggestion to implement a graphically displayed password as a front door to the archives should be relatively simple to implement. However, I have a very long to do list so you should expect some unavoidable delay before I can attend to this matter, Regards, Heather > > Curry -- Heather Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.runrev.com/> Runtime Revolution Ltd. Tel: +44 (0) 131 7184333 Fax: +44 (0)1639 830707 Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: list email address security
If you're concerned, you might try a spam filter or use a hotmail, yahoo, or other email address. I use a filter that flags spam and put them in a separate folder. But there are false positives sometimes (remember when this list was in that situation? and there are others, which I can't afford to miss) so I don't use an e-mail service or filter that blocks them out completely. If you mean using another address to receive this list, too late! This one is already archived, I don't think it would really help to archive another. Filters are good, but preventing spam is just as legitimate and important as dealing with it when it happens. I'd be surprised if that were considered a controversial viewpoint! Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: list email address security
Curry, If you're concerned, you might try a spam filter or use a hotmail, yahoo, or other email address. I use SpamBayes for Outlook (PC) and it can be found at: http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/download.html I get no Nigerian communiques. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: list email address security
> Hi, > Just my $0.02 worth. I have been getting the same Nigerian scammer > mails ;-) So do I, but on one of my other e-mail addresses, not this one. I reckon that's worth $0.03. Are there any doubts about the risk, or any ambiguity in the current situation? I think the only helpful and logical way to consider the problem is to consider all (of the few) simple factors involved: -most addresses are harvested from web pages -the archive index and message headings *are* protected -the security problem happens *only* when someone replies to your message *and* your address is inserted by them or their software, or when an address is included in the sig line -someone has to run a bot to successfully scan that section of the internet -the address has to be sold and used Considering these factors, certainly, not everyone may have been affected. For those who believe they probably haven't, that would seem to me a good reason to hope for a correction to the problem so that it won't happen in the future, rather than a reason not to worry about it. I don't think there are any great unknowns about address harvesting. It's pretty simple, predictable, and well-understood. I'm personally hoping that my current address here (I switched a while ago) hasn't been scanned yet, or not too many times, and could be removed before that happens. I don't see that as negative or non-philosophical at all. It's simply realistic and in fact, quite positive--a simple thing we can do to frustrate the spammers and have less spam to deal with ourselves, therefore more time for other things! I frankly am hoping and expecting that something will be done soon, and there are several ways of doing it, some I would expect are not all that difficult. I've been staying mum about the matter for the last few days, but since the topic came up again and seemed not focused on the above considerations, I just wanted to make sure that people realize what to look at in the situation. Curry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: list email address security
On Monday, Jun 16, 2003, at 02:01 Australia/Sydney, "Derek Hadlington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Just my $0.02 worth. I have been getting the same Nigerian scammer mails ;-) So do I, but on one of my other e-mail addresses, not this one. I reckon that's worth $0.03. regards David Cheers Derek ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: list email address security
Hi, Just my $0.02 worth. I have been getting the same Nigerian scammer mails ;-) Cheers Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 June 2003 12:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: list email address security In a message dated 13/6/03 3:08:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << After 8 months of spam-free bliss my current email address has suddenly been found by the Nigerian spammers. At last my financial future is assured, gravy train here I come >> I have no debts, a wonderful cess pit, lots of hard drugs n' porn, a magnificent penis, a great mortgage, a Doctorate from the University of East Peckham..but nothing from any Nigerians. I demand to know why, as a longstanding devotee of this list, I have been discriminated against in this way. But seriously. If the addressses had been harvested from this list, wouldn't we all have been invited to help the poor man? Best wishes, David Glasgow Home/ forensic assessments --> http://members.aol.com/dvglasgow/";> DVGlasgow Courses --> http://www.i-Psych.co.uk";>i-Psych ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: list email address security
In a message dated 13/6/03 3:08:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << After 8 months of spam-free bliss my current email address has suddenly been found by the Nigerian spammers. At last my financial future is assured, gravy train here I come >> I have no debts, a wonderful cess pit, lots of hard drugs n' porn, a magnificent penis, a great mortgage, a Doctorate from the University of East Peckham..but nothing from any Nigerians. I demand to know why, as a longstanding devotee of this list, I have been discriminated against in this way. But seriously. If the addressses had been harvested from this list, wouldn't we all have been invited to help the poor man? Best wishes, David Glasgow Home/ forensic assessments --> http://members.aol.com/dvglasgow/";> DVGlasgow Courses --> http://www.i-Psych.co.uk";>i-Psych ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[OT] Re: list email address security
On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 02:15 AM, Ken Apthorpe wrote: As they have got me, it is a sure thing that a torrent of spam from all directions is about to follow. So, I expect I will shortly have to change my email address. I think I may have to unsubscribe first. It does sound like too much of a coincidence. Anyways, my opinion: It's futile to change your email address whenever you get some spam. 1) There are some really good spam filtering tools out there such as Spam Assassin, and the Bayesian filtering such as that found in Apple's Mail.app. I've had the same email address for 8 years and I get literally hundreds of spam per day, but I only see a handful of them because I have aggressive spam filtering. Kind of like when I check the postal mail at home, I just walk by the wastebasket as a matter of habit. 2) Contact your legislators and push for anti-spam laws. Here is the US this is gaining momentum. Several states have laws, AOL, MSN and FTC have joined the fray. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: list email address security
A word of caution to all you Rev-heads ... I've read posts about the list/archive security of email addresses. After 8 months of spam-free bliss my current email address has suddenly been found by the Nigerian spammers. At last my financial future is assured, gravy train here I come I realise it may be pure coincidence that they found me about a week after I joined the list (which is the only one I have subscribed to with my current address). They may well have got me from some other source. But I can't help but note the coincidence. As they have got me, it is a sure thing that a torrent of spam from all directions is about to follow. So, I expect I will shortly have to change my email address. I think I may have to unsubscribe first. Take care Ken ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
