Re: not getting digests

[Heather Williams]

> Maybe we should think about how to put SPEWS in their proper place
> and inform people about their techniques!

I totally agree with you, it's appalling. Unfortunately most of my "copious
spare time" (TM Jeanne DeVoto, thank you Jeanne) is already being taken up
with the fallout from this occurrence, trying to contact people by
alternative means and general damage limitation. If anyone wants to take the
matter up in any way they have my full moral support. Hopefully the
situation will be resolved shortly,

Regards,

Heather
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Re: not getting digests

[curry]

Unfortunately,
SPEWS is uncontactable, unresponsive, and as far as I can tell, actively
does not want to remove innocent businesses from their blacklisting, since
it relies on us to complain to our ISP's and get the spam operations shut
down. We are attempting to do this. How long it will take and how successful
we will be, I do not know.


That's disgraceful. Any means to reach their goal. That's a source of 
many, many problems in the world today, and it's interesting that an 
example of this kind of philosophy and behavior even shows up here!

Maybe we should think about how to put SPEWS in their proper place 
and inform people about their techniques!

Curry
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RE: not getting digests

[Chipp Walters]

If you are not getting your RR list because of a blacklist problem aka
Spews, you can contact your mailserver ISP and request they quit using
Spews. There are a number of effective anti-spam client controls including
bayesian filters and Cloudmark's Spamnet. These blacklists are as bad as the
spammers and you *should* protest. There's no telling *how* much vital email
you're missing.

-Chipp

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Heather
> Williams
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 3:24 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: not getting digests
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:20:10 -0800
> > Subject: Not getting digest email
> > From: "Ken Norris (dialup)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Hello RR list,
> >
> > I'm used to getting 2 or more digest versions of this list daily, but
> > Ihaven' received anything since Sunday morning. Either things are really
> > slow or else there's a problem.
> >
> > Any response?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ken N.
>
> We are having a small problem at the moment. A smallish percentage of our
> users are being affected by an incorrect blacklisting of our IP address by
> SPEWS, an anti spam organisation. Apparently, this organisation takes it
> upon itself to blacklist not only IP addresses that are sending spam, but
> also all neighbouring, innocent IP addresses, and in some cases entire
> ISP's. A number of reputable ISP's then use this blacklist to block all
> email from those addresses. Your ISP is probably one of them.
> Unfortunately,
> SPEWS is uncontactable, unresponsive, and as far as I can tell, actively
> does not want to remove innocent businesses from their blacklisting, since
> it relies on us to complain to our ISP's and get the spam operations shut
> down. We are attempting to do this. How long it will take and how
> successful
> we will be, I do not know.
>
> In the meantime, all I can suggest is that you contact me directly if you
> have specific enquiries about Revolution, and I can respond through my
> backup email address. You can reach the digests online, from the archives,
> or at
>
> http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com
>
> For a searchable list.
>
> My apologies for this very annoying interruption to our usual service.
>
> Regards,
>
> Heather
>
>
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Re: not getting digests

[Heather Williams]

> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 09:20:10 -0800
> Subject: Not getting digest email
> From: "Ken Norris (dialup)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Hello RR list,
> 
> I'm used to getting 2 or more digest versions of this list daily, but
> Ihaven' received anything since Sunday morning. Either things are really
> slow or else there's a problem.
> 
> Any response?
> 
> Best regards,
> Ken N.

We are having a small problem at the moment. A smallish percentage of our
users are being affected by an incorrect blacklisting of our IP address by
SPEWS, an anti spam organisation. Apparently, this organisation takes it
upon itself to blacklist not only IP addresses that are sending spam, but
also all neighbouring, innocent IP addresses, and in some cases entire
ISP's. A number of reputable ISP's then use this blacklist to block all
email from those addresses. Your ISP is probably one of them. Unfortunately,
SPEWS is uncontactable, unresponsive, and as far as I can tell, actively
does not want to remove innocent businesses from their blacklisting, since
it relies on us to complain to our ISP's and get the spam operations shut
down. We are attempting to do this. How long it will take and how successful
we will be, I do not know.

In the meantime, all I can suggest is that you contact me directly if you
have specific enquiries about Revolution, and I can respond through my
backup email address. You can reach the digests online, from the archives,
or at 

http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=site:lists.runrev.com

For a searchable list.

My apologies for this very annoying interruption to our usual service.

Regards,

Heather


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