Re: num of bgs versus num of grps

2005-10-12 Thread Phil Davis
This reply is incomplete and may not solve anything, but here's my basic 
starting point for keeping it straight mentally:



A basic difference between calling one of those collection objects a 
'group' or a 'background' is SCOPE OF REFERENCE.


- When I talk about a 'background', I'm speaking in stack-level terms.

- When I talk about a 'group', I'm speaking in card-level terms.

This 'scope of reference' thing is [sort of] reflected in the counts 
you're getting.


That's where I start in my thinking about them. From there I start 
applying qualifications until distinctions become really muddy.


Phil Davis



Wouter wrote:

Hi All,

As there is a lot to do about background groups may be this is the  
right time to ask about a completely undocumented feature (at least I  
cannot find any reference to it (and I know this is not a reference  
either :-))


< put the number of backgrounds > is different from (though the docs  
state group and background as equivalent)   < put the number of groups >


"put the number of groups" : will report the total number of groups  on 
the current card (and not in the complete stack if it is a  multicard 
stack)


"put the number of backgrounds" : will  report the number of groups  to 
be found at cardlevel of a complete stack (one or multicard stack).


in a 1 card stack:
  -  If there are several groups  it will report the number of  groups, 
whether the backgroundbehavior is set or not
  -  if there is a group in a group in a ...   it will be  counted 
as 1 group

in a multicard stack:
  -  it will report the total number of groups at cardlevel in that  stack
3 groups on each of 2 cards without backgroundbehavior set  to 
true will be reported as 6 groups
  -  if the backgroundproperty of a group is set to true it will be  
counted only once
 3 groups on each of 2 cards with  backgroundbehavior of 1  
group set to true will be reported as 5 groups


Can anyone confirm this?
TIA
Greetings,
Wouter
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Re: num of bgs versus num of grps

2005-10-12 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> As there is a lot to do about background groups may be this is the
> right time to ask about a completely undocumented feature (at least I
> cannot find any reference to it (and I know this is not a reference
> either :-))
>
> < put the number of backgrounds > is different from (though the docs
> state group and background as equivalent)   < put the number of groups >
>

Go to the Help menu -> Topics -> Groups & backgrounds. This gives you
the details of when a group is different to a background.

Cheers,
Sarah
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num of bgs versus num of grps

2005-10-12 Thread Wouter

Hi All,

As there is a lot to do about background groups may be this is the  
right time to ask about a completely undocumented feature (at least I  
cannot find any reference to it (and I know this is not a reference  
either :-))


< put the number of backgrounds > is different from (though the docs  
state group and background as equivalent)   < put the number of groups >


"put the number of groups" : will report the total number of groups  
on the current card (and not in the complete stack if it is a  
multicard stack)


"put the number of backgrounds" : will  report the number of groups  
to be found at cardlevel of a complete stack (one or multicard stack).


in a 1 card stack:
  -  If there are several groups  it will report the number of  
groups, whether the backgroundbehavior is set or not
  -  if there is a group in a group in a ...   it will be  
counted as 1 group

in a multicard stack:
  -  it will report the total number of groups at cardlevel in that  
stack
3 groups on each of 2 cards without backgroundbehavior set  
to true will be reported as 6 groups
  -  if the backgroundproperty of a group is set to true it will be  
counted only once
 3 groups on each of 2 cards with  backgroundbehavior of 1  
group set to true will be reported as 5 groups


Can anyone confirm this?
TIA
Greetings,
Wouter
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