Re: "on enterKey" not working
On 10/15/07, Mark Swindell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yet, "focus on this cd" in the image script states that the card is > an invalid object. How do you remove the focus from all objects on a > card in one fell swoop, and give it to the card? Could this be the > problem? Whilst 'focus on this cd" might be nice, that's really no different from: click at "1,1" as long as at position "1,1" has no control there. As far as I can see, (and I've probably got it completely wrong) in Paul's case, after he's finished with any object he wants the focus 'lost' so the focus goes to the card so that when he presses Enter he can run a script in a particular button. To me, why not just send the focus straight to that button? Rev is already set so that if there is a defaultButton on a card, and nothing has the focus, pressing Enter or Return is like clicking on the defaultButton. Which really means that with a card with a defaultButton, clicking the card doesn't palace the focus on the card but really places it on the defaultButton. If a card has no defaultButton and you set it up so that when the card has focus, pressing Enter or Return activates a particular button, then shouldn't that button be the defaultButton? It would seem strange to me to have a card full of buttons, none of which are 'throbbing blue' and yet pressing Enter will activate one of them. In this case, everywhere you'd have to have 'click at "1,1" or even focus on card (if that worked), you could have focus on btn "theOneIWant". Either I way, I'm sure there should be something here for Paul to get done what he wants:-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
Besides clicking on a card background, how do you set the focus of a card to the card itself? If you click on the card, not on any object or background image, the focus is removed from all possible suspects/object. But if you click on an image whose traversalOn is true, for example, it retains the focus, and the enterKey message is trapped. If its traversalOn is false, then there is no effect and any previously focused objects retain their focus. Yet, "focus on this cd" in the image script states that the card is an invalid object. How do you remove the focus from all objects on a card in one fell swoop, and give it to the card? Could this be the problem? Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
On 10/15/07, Paul Gabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem isn't default buttons, because I don't have any > set on the card I'm experimenting on. Well maybe you should have just 1. I'm on the verge of abandoning "on enterKey," but if anyone has any > more suggestions I'd love to hear them. Thank you again. Here's an option: In all your fields/buttons, except the one in question, end the script with: focus on btn "theOneImTryingToFocusOn" For fields you'll need to handle 'on returnInField', 'on enterInField' and 'on tabKey' to make sure that focus always goes to the button. Note that this approach may cause confusion if you have multiple fields as most people expect that once you tab/enter/return out of a field the Insertion Point will move to the next field. I checked the above by placing one defaultButton on a card and making it invisible. In the couple of fields and buttons on the card I ended their scripts with the above ' focus on' script. In each case tab/enter/return in field did what it was suppose to do and then focus was 'lost' - not on or in any visible object on the card. Pressing the Enter or Return key would then activate the script in the invisible defaultButton, which simply beeped and bought a dialog box telling me the key I'd pressed. Note that the defaultButton's only contained a 'on mouseUp' script. As noted before, when a defaultButton has focus and you press Enter or Return a mouseUp message is sent to the defaultButton. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
> All of this experimenting has led me to conclude that the problem > involves "focus" and the "focusedObject" function. I have several > controls on cards that users respond to. If the user (that's me in my > experiments) enters text in a field or clicks on a radio button, > these controls get the focus (typing "put the focusedObject" in the > message box reveals this). But I can't set the focus to "none" (I > tried), and I can't set the focusedObject to the card, where the "on > enterKey" script resides (since it's a function, not a property). So > it seems that after a user responds, some control will always have > the focus, and, when I press the Enter Key, Rev sends the enterKey > message to it instead of the card. > > I'm on the verge of abandoning "on enterKey," but if anyone has any > more suggestions I'd love to hear them. Thank you again. > Two suggestions for you Paul: 1. Set the traversalOn of all buttons to false. It is used on Windows where people tab through buttons, but on Macs, this is not needed, but as you have observed, it does allow buttons to grab the focus. 2. Add an enterInField handler to your card script as well. This should catch the key press when the focus is in a field. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
A big "thank you" to Randy Hengst, Jim Ault, Bjornke von Gierke, Sarah Reichelt, and Kay Lan. Just to update you, I still cannot use "on enterKey" effectively. This is the handler I want to place at the card level ... on enterKey click at the loc of btn "Continue" end enterKey The problem isn't that I can't tell the Enter Key from the Return Key, as was suggested (I've been using a Mac since 1984). The problem isn't lockMessages, since it's reset to false at the end of each handler. The problem isn't default buttons, because I don't have any set on the card I'm experimenting on. I commented out every "on enterKey" in my 3 stacks and put Jim's suggestion ... on enterkey answer "you are in the stack script, and a bit too far into the heirarchy" end enterkey ... in my mainstack. It brings up the answer dialog box all right. All of this experimenting has led me to conclude that the problem involves "focus" and the "focusedObject" function. I have several controls on cards that users respond to. If the user (that's me in my experiments) enters text in a field or clicks on a radio button, these controls get the focus (typing "put the focusedObject" in the message box reveals this). But I can't set the focus to "none" (I tried), and I can't set the focusedObject to the card, where the "on enterKey" script resides (since it's a function, not a property). So it seems that after a user responds, some control will always have the focus, and, when I press the Enter Key, Rev sends the enterKey message to it instead of the card. I'm on the verge of abandoning "on enterKey," but if anyone has any more suggestions I'd love to hear them. Thank you again. Paul Gabel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
put in the stack script on enterkey answer "you are in the stack script, and a bit too far into the heirarchy" end enterkey This should not be triggered if the trapping handler is working. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 10/13/07 6:13 PM, "Kay C Lan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/14/07, Paul Gabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The docs say: The message is sent to the active >> (focused) control, or to the current card if no control is focused. >> But there is no focus on any control, and there is no text field >> active. When I hit the enter key, nothing happens there is no >> beep, and there is no effect on the button "Continue." Am I missing >> something embarrassingly obvious? >> >> Is there another 'default' button on the card? The docs also say: > > When the user presses Enter or Return and there is no active control, > Revolution sends a mouseUp message to the defaultButton. > > I don't know what happens if you press Enter and there is more than one > 'default' button (throbbing blue) but the docs say that: > > If more than one button's default is true, the defaultButton property > reports the ID of the button whose default property was set to true most > recently. > > So maybe if you press Enter, mouseUp is sent to the last default button > created, which in your case may not be Continue. I don't know I haven't > tested. > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
On 10/14/07, Paul Gabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The docs say: The message is sent to the active > (focused) control, or to the current card if no control is focused. > But there is no focus on any control, and there is no text field > active. When I hit the enter key, nothing happens — there is no > beep, and there is no effect on the button "Continue." Am I missing > something embarrassingly obvious? > > Is there another 'default' button on the card? The docs also say: When the user presses Enter or Return and there is no active control, Revolution sends a mouseUp message to the defaultButton. I don't know what happens if you press Enter and there is more than one 'default' button (throbbing blue) but the docs say that: If more than one button's default is true, the defaultButton property reports the ID of the button whose default property was set to true most recently. So maybe if you press Enter, mouseUp is sent to the last default button created, which in your case may not be Continue. I don't know I haven't tested. HTH ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
On 14 Oct 2007, at 00:51, Paul Gabel wrote: Hi Sarah: Thanks for your reply. Yes, I pressed Enter (and not Return). And I know those 2 lines duplicate each other. Maybe that is the problem, as they don't. Return is the key next to the chars. Enter on the other hand is the key that is part of the numpad. Of course this difference can be further confused by some keyboards having "enter" written on the return key (I even saw "return" on a enter key once). On my iBook, the enter key is situated on the left of my spacebar, and has a upwards arrow with a horizontal line above it as icon. Also, both the returnkey and enterkey messages work flawlessly for me. If this is not the actual problem, maybe you have locked messages? (Click the envelope with the lock in the iconbar of rev, or check out the lockMessages property). -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL "http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev"; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
Hi Sarah: Thanks for your reply. Yes, I pressed Enter (and not Return). And I know those 2 lines duplicate each other. I was just trying to see if ANYTHING would respond. (And my keyboard doesn't seem to be broken.) The simple situation seems to be that "on enterKey" is not receiving the "pressing the Enter key message." Can you think of any other suggestions? Paul Gabel On Oct 13, 2007, at 2:52 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: Do any of you know why I get no response from the "on enterKey" handler? The following handler is on the card where the button "Continue" resides. The docs say: The message is sent to the active (focused) control, or to the current card if no control is focused. But there is no focus on any control, and there is no text field active. When I hit the enter key, nothing happens — there is no beep, and there is no effect on the button "Continue." Am I missing something embarrassingly obvious? on enterKey beep send mouseUp to btn "Continue" click at the loc of btn "Continue" end enterKey I just tested your script Paul, and it works perfectly for me. Are you sure you are pressing Enter and not Return? BTW, as written, your script will run the Continue button's mouseUp script twice. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "on enterKey" not working
> Do any of you know why I get no response from the "on enterKey" > handler? The following handler is on the card where the button > "Continue" resides. The docs say: The message is sent to the active > (focused) control, or to the current card if no control is focused. > But there is no focus on any control, and there is no text field > active. When I hit the enter key, nothing happens — there is no > beep, and there is no effect on the button "Continue." Am I missing > something embarrassingly obvious? > > on enterKey >beep >send mouseUp to btn "Continue" >click at the loc of btn "Continue" > end enterKey I just tested your script Paul, and it works perfectly for me. Are you sure you are pressing Enter and not Return? BTW, as written, your script will run the Continue button's mouseUp script twice. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
"on enterKey" not working
Hello everybody: Do any of you know why I get no response from the "on enterKey" handler? The following handler is on the card where the button "Continue" resides. The docs say: The message is sent to the active (focused) control, or to the current card if no control is focused. But there is no focus on any control, and there is no text field active. When I hit the enter key, nothing happens — there is no beep, and there is no effect on the button "Continue." Am I missing something embarrassingly obvious? on enterKey beep send mouseUp to btn "Continue" click at the loc of btn "Continue" end enterKey Thank you. Paul Gabel Rev Studio 2.8.1 Mac OS X 10.4.10 iMac Intel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
