Re: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

2011-12-22 Thread R. Verlangen
As a starter I also fully agree with this suggestion. You could submit it
as feature request to the Cassandra JIRA.

2011/12/12 Stephen Pope stephen.p...@quest.com

  I’d like to second this. I’ve been working with Cassandra for a good
 while now, but when I first started little things like this were confusing.
 

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 *From:* Don Smith [mailto:dsm...@likewise.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, December 09, 2011 3:41 PM
 *To:* user@cassandra.apache.org
 *Subject:* Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

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 Currently, the syntax for creating column families is like this:

 create column family Users
 with comparator=UTF8Type
 and default_validation_class=UTF8Type
 and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;


 It's not clear what comparator and default_validation_class refer to.
 Much clearer would be:

 create column family Users
 with *column_name_comparator*=UTF8Type
 and *column_value_validation_class*=UTF8Type
 and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;


 BTW, instead of column_name_comparator, I'd actually prefer
 column_key_comparator since it seems more accurate to call column names
 column keys.

   Don



RE: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

2011-12-22 Thread Don Smith
FYI, I submitted an enhancement 
tickethttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3660?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 to JIRA about this.   The ticket was resolved with the comment: cli is kept 
around for backwards compatiblity at this point; cqlsh is 'the future.'

 Don

From: Stephen Pope [stephen.p...@quest.com]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 6:34 AM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: RE: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

I’d like to second this. I’ve been working with Cassandra for a good while now, 
but when I first started little things like this were confusing.

From: Don Smith [mailto:dsm...@likewise.com]
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:41 PM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

Currently, the syntax for creating column families is like this:
create column family Users
with comparator=UTF8Type
and default_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

It's not clear what comparator and default_validation_class refer to. Much 
clearer would be:
create column family Users
with column_name_comparator=UTF8Type
and column_value_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

BTW, instead of column_name_comparator, I'd actually prefer 
column_key_comparator since it seems more accurate to call column names 
column keys.

  Don


Re: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

2011-12-22 Thread ehers...@gmail.com
Doesn't CQL have the same issue?

http://crlog.info/2011/09/17/cassandra-query-language-cql-v2-0-reference/#Column+Family+Options+(optional)

http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/references/cql/CREATE_COLUMNFAMILY

CREATE COLUMNFAMILY user_events (user text PRIMARY KEY)
   WITH *comparator*=timestamp AND *default_validation*=int;

Do CQL enhancements also belong in the same jira project, or somewhere
else?

Ernie

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Don Smith dsm...@likewise.com wrote:

  FYI, I submitted an enhancement 
 tickethttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3660?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanelto
  JIRA about this.   The ticket was resolved with the comment: cli is
 kept around for backwards compatiblity at this point; cqlsh is 'the
 future.'

  Don
  --
 *From:* Stephen Pope [stephen.p...@quest.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2011 6:34 AM
 *To:* user@cassandra.apache.org
 *Subject:* RE: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

   I’d like to second this. I’ve been working with Cassandra for a good
 while now, but when I first started little things like this were confusing.



 *From:* Don Smith [mailto:dsm...@likewise.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, December 09, 2011 3:41 PM
 *To:* user@cassandra.apache.org
 *Subject:* Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY



 Currently, the syntax for creating column families is like this:

 create column family Users
 with comparator=UTF8Type
 and default_validation_class=UTF8Type
 and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;


 It's not clear what comparator and default_validation_class refer to.
 Much clearer would be:

 create column family Users
 with *column_name_comparator*=UTF8Type
 and *column_value_validation_class*=UTF8Type
 and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;


 BTW, instead of column_name_comparator, I'd actually prefer
 column_key_comparator since it seems more accurate to call column names
 column keys.

   Don



RE: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

2011-12-22 Thread Don Smith
I believe you're right!.  The change to cli would be an easy fix, I imagine; 
for backwards compatibility, they'd probably want to allow either the old or 
new syntax for cli.   But I understand their decision not to devote time to a 
deprecated tool.For cqlsh I hope it's not too late to deprecate the old, 
unclear syntax.

 Don

From: ehers...@gmail.com [ehers...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:20 AM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Re: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

Doesn't CQL have the same issue?

http://crlog.info/2011/09/17/cassandra-query-language-cql-v2-0-reference/#Column+Family+Options+(optional)
http://www.datastax.com/docs/1.0/references/cql/CREATE_COLUMNFAMILY


CREATE COLUMNFAMILY user_events (user text PRIMARY KEY)
   WITH comparator=timestamp AND default_validation=int;

Do CQL enhancements also belong in the same jira project, or somewhere else?

Ernie

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Don Smith 
dsm...@likewise.commailto:dsm...@likewise.com wrote:
FYI, I submitted an enhancement 
tickethttps://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-3660?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
 to JIRA about this.   The ticket was resolved with the comment: cli is kept 
around for backwards compatiblity at this point; cqlsh is 'the future.'

 Don

From: Stephen Pope [stephen.p...@quest.commailto:stephen.p...@quest.com]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 6:34 AM
To: user@cassandra.apache.orgmailto:user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: RE: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

I’d like to second this. I’ve been working with Cassandra for a good while now, 
but when I first started little things like this were confusing.

From: Don Smith [mailto:dsm...@likewise.commailto:dsm...@likewise.com]
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:41 PM
To: user@cassandra.apache.orgmailto:user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

Currently, the syntax for creating column families is like this:
create column family Users
with comparator=UTF8Type
and default_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

It's not clear what comparator and default_validation_class refer to. Much 
clearer would be:
create column family Users
with column_name_comparator=UTF8Type
and column_value_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

BTW, instead of column_name_comparator, I'd actually prefer 
column_key_comparator since it seems more accurate to call column names 
column keys.

  Don



RE: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

2011-12-12 Thread Stephen Pope
I'd like to second this. I've been working with Cassandra for a good while now, 
but when I first started little things like this were confusing.

From: Don Smith [mailto:dsm...@likewise.com]
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 3:41 PM
To: user@cassandra.apache.org
Subject: Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

Currently, the syntax for creating column families is like this:
create column family Users
with comparator=UTF8Type
and default_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

It's not clear what comparator and default_validation_class refer to. Much 
clearer would be:
create column family Users
with column_name_comparator=UTF8Type
and column_value_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

BTW, instead of column_name_comparator, I'd actually prefer 
column_key_comparator since it seems more accurate to call column names 
column keys.

  Don


Suggestion about syntax of CREATE COLUMN FAMILY

2011-12-09 Thread Don Smith
Currently, the syntax for creating column families is like this:

create column family Users
with comparator=UTF8Type
and default_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

It's not clear what comparator and default_validation_class refer to. Much 
clearer would be:

create column family Users
with column_name_comparator=UTF8Type
and column_value_validation_class=UTF8Type
and key_validation_class=UTF8Type;

BTW, instead of column_name_comparator, I'd actually prefer 
column_key_comparator since it seems more accurate to call column names 
column keys.

  Don