Re: Truncate introspection

2011-06-28 Thread David Boxenhorn
Does drop work in a similar way?

When I drop a CF and add it back with a different schema, it seems to work.

But I notice that in between the drop and adding it back, when the CLI
tells me the CF doesn't exist, the old data is still there.

I've been assuming that this works, but just wanted to make sure...

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Each node (independently) has logic that guarantees that any writes
 processed before the truncate, will be wiped out.

 This does not mean that each node will wipe out the same data, or even
 that each node will process the truncate (which would result in a
 timedoutexception).

 It also does not mean you can't have writes immediately after the
 truncate that would race w/ a truncate, check for zero sstables
 procedure.

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
 If those went to zero, it would certainly tell me something happened.  :)  I
 guess watching that would be a way of seeing something was going on.
 Is the truncate itself propagating a ring-wide marker or anything so the CF
 is logically empty before being physically removed?  That's the impression
 I got from the docs but it wasn't totally clear to me.

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's a JMX method to get the number of sstables in a CF, is that
 what you're looking for?

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
  Is there any straightforward means of seeing what's going on after
  issuing a
  truncate (on 0.7.5)?  I'm not seeing evidence that anything actually
  happened.  I've disabled read repair on the column family in question
  and
  don't have anything actively reading/writing at present, apart from my
  one-off tests to see if rows have disappeared.
  Thanks in advance.



 --
 Jonathan Ellis
 Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
 co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
 http://www.datastax.com





 --
 Jonathan Ellis
 Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
 co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
 http://www.datastax.com



Re: Truncate introspection

2011-06-28 Thread aaron morton
Drop CF takes a snapshot of the CF first, and then marks SSTables on disk as 
compacted so they will be safely deleted later. Finally it removes the CF from 
the meta data. 

If you see the SSTables on disk, you should see 0 length .compacted files for 
every one of them. 

Cheers

-
Aaron Morton
Freelance Cassandra Developer
@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com

On 28 Jun 2011, at 20:00, David Boxenhorn wrote:

 Does drop work in a similar way?
 
 When I drop a CF and add it back with a different schema, it seems to work.
 
 But I notice that in between the drop and adding it back, when the CLI
 tells me the CF doesn't exist, the old data is still there.
 
 I've been assuming that this works, but just wanted to make sure...
 
 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Each node (independently) has logic that guarantees that any writes
 processed before the truncate, will be wiped out.
 
 This does not mean that each node will wipe out the same data, or even
 that each node will process the truncate (which would result in a
 timedoutexception).
 
 It also does not mean you can't have writes immediately after the
 truncate that would race w/ a truncate, check for zero sstables
 procedure.
 
 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
 If those went to zero, it would certainly tell me something happened.  :)  I
 guess watching that would be a way of seeing something was going on.
 Is the truncate itself propagating a ring-wide marker or anything so the CF
 is logically empty before being physically removed?  That's the impression
 I got from the docs but it wasn't totally clear to me.
 
 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There's a JMX method to get the number of sstables in a CF, is that
 what you're looking for?
 
 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
 Is there any straightforward means of seeing what's going on after
 issuing a
 truncate (on 0.7.5)?  I'm not seeing evidence that anything actually
 happened.  I've disabled read repair on the column family in question
 and
 don't have anything actively reading/writing at present, apart from my
 one-off tests to see if rows have disappeared.
 Thanks in advance.
 
 
 
 --
 Jonathan Ellis
 Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
 co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
 http://www.datastax.com
 
 
 
 
 
 --
 Jonathan Ellis
 Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
 co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
 http://www.datastax.com
 



Truncate introspection

2011-06-27 Thread Ethan Rowe
Is there any straightforward means of seeing what's going on after issuing a
truncate (on 0.7.5)?  I'm not seeing evidence that anything actually
happened.  I've disabled read repair on the column family in question and
don't have anything actively reading/writing at present, apart from my
one-off tests to see if rows have disappeared.

Thanks in advance.


Re: Truncate introspection

2011-06-27 Thread Jonathan Ellis
There's a JMX method to get the number of sstables in a CF, is that
what you're looking for?

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
 Is there any straightforward means of seeing what's going on after issuing a
 truncate (on 0.7.5)?  I'm not seeing evidence that anything actually
 happened.  I've disabled read repair on the column family in question and
 don't have anything actively reading/writing at present, apart from my
 one-off tests to see if rows have disappeared.
 Thanks in advance.



-- 
Jonathan Ellis
Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
http://www.datastax.com


Re: Truncate introspection

2011-06-27 Thread Ethan Rowe
If those went to zero, it would certainly tell me something happened.  :)  I
guess watching that would be a way of seeing something was going on.

Is the truncate itself propagating a ring-wide marker or anything so the CF
is logically empty before being physically removed?  That's the impression
I got from the docs but it wasn't totally clear to me.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's a JMX method to get the number of sstables in a CF, is that
 what you're looking for?

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
  Is there any straightforward means of seeing what's going on after
 issuing a
  truncate (on 0.7.5)?  I'm not seeing evidence that anything actually
  happened.  I've disabled read repair on the column family in question and
  don't have anything actively reading/writing at present, apart from my
  one-off tests to see if rows have disappeared.
  Thanks in advance.



 --
 Jonathan Ellis
 Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
 co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
 http://www.datastax.com



Re: Truncate introspection

2011-06-27 Thread Jonathan Ellis
Each node (independently) has logic that guarantees that any writes
processed before the truncate, will be wiped out.

This does not mean that each node will wipe out the same data, or even
that each node will process the truncate (which would result in a
timedoutexception).

It also does not mean you can't have writes immediately after the
truncate that would race w/ a truncate, check for zero sstables
procedure.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
 If those went to zero, it would certainly tell me something happened.  :)  I
 guess watching that would be a way of seeing something was going on.
 Is the truncate itself propagating a ring-wide marker or anything so the CF
 is logically empty before being physically removed?  That's the impression
 I got from the docs but it wasn't totally clear to me.

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Jonathan Ellis jbel...@gmail.com wrote:

 There's a JMX method to get the number of sstables in a CF, is that
 what you're looking for?

 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Ethan Rowe et...@the-rowes.com wrote:
  Is there any straightforward means of seeing what's going on after
  issuing a
  truncate (on 0.7.5)?  I'm not seeing evidence that anything actually
  happened.  I've disabled read repair on the column family in question
  and
  don't have anything actively reading/writing at present, apart from my
  one-off tests to see if rows have disappeared.
  Thanks in advance.



 --
 Jonathan Ellis
 Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
 co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
 http://www.datastax.com





-- 
Jonathan Ellis
Project Chair, Apache Cassandra
co-founder of DataStax, the source for professional Cassandra support
http://www.datastax.com