RE: Flink kafka exceptions handling

2021-01-06 Thread BELGHITH Amira (EXT)

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This is the previous topic I’m referring to 
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Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka Consumer 
does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception 
TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one is 
down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle those 
exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not fail?


De : Amira Belghith 
Envoyé : mercredi 6 janvier 2021 18:36
À : BELGHITH Amira (EXT) ResgGtsOpmOptVdf ; 
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I think you first need to be subscribed as it's explained here [1]. Could you 
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Piotrek

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śr., 6 sty 2021 o 17:09 Amira Belghith 
mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>> napisał(a):
Hey,
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Thanks,
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śr., 6 sty 2021 o 15:11 Amira Belghith 
mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>> napisał(a):
Hi Nick, Piotr,

Im a software engineer working for Societe Generale bank.
I saw your discussion about FlinkKafkaConsumer and exceptions handling.
I have the same problem for a week now, and I wanted to know if you have found 
a solution.
Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka Consumer 
does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception 
TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one is 
down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle those 
exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not fail?

Thanks a lot for your help,
Amira belghith

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Re: Flink kafka exceptions handling

2021-01-07 Thread Piotr Nowojski
Hi Amira,

I think the previous topic you are referring to doesn't seem to be related
with your current problem.

Regarding your problem, I'm afraid I don't know the FlinkKafkaConsumer code
too well. Maybe someone else from the community could help?

Best,
Piotrek

śr., 6 sty 2021 o 19:01 BELGHITH Amira (EXT) 
napisał(a):

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> Thank you for your answer.
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> This is the previous topic I’m referring to
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/flink-user/202008.mbox/%3CCACzKVZQ093HixMewb_prtP41ceXgmxCv=cmpsbphw-9+h8b...@mail.gmail.com%3E
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>
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> *Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka
> Consumer does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception
> TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one
> is down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle
> those exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not
> fail?*
>
>
>
>
>
> *De :* Amira Belghith 
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 6 janvier 2021 18:36
> *À :* BELGHITH Amira (EXT) ResgGtsOpmOptVdf ;
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> Date : mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 17:26
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> À : Amira Belghith 
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>
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>
> I think you first need to be subscribed as it's explained here [1]. Could
> you also link to which previous topic are you referring to?
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> Piotrek
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> [1] https://flink.apache.org/community.html#mailing-lists
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> śr., 6 sty 2021 o 17:09 Amira Belghith 
> napisał(a):
>
> Hey,
>
> Thanks for your fast reply.
>
> The mail couldnt be delivered to the mailing list.
>
>
>
> Le mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 16:59, Piotr Nowojski  a
> écrit :
>
> Hey,
>
>
>
> could you post the question on the user  mailing
> list?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Piotrek
>
>
>
> śr., 6 sty 2021 o 15:11 Amira Belghith 
> napisał(a):
>
> Hi Nick, Piotr,
>
>
>
> Im a software engineer working for Societe Generale bank.
>
> I saw your discussion about FlinkKafkaConsumer and exceptions handling.
>
> I have the same problem for a week now, and I wanted to know if you have
> found a solution.
>
> Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka
> Consumer does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception
> TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one
> is down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle
> those exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not fail?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your help,
>
> Amira belghith
>
>
>
> =
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Re: Flink kafka exceptions handling

2021-01-07 Thread Aljoscha Krettek

Hi,

When you say that the `JobManager` goes down, you're referring to the 
fact that the Flink job will finish in a failed state after too many 
exceptions have occurred in the `FlinkKafkaConsumer. Is that correct?


I'm afraid right now there is no code path that would allow catching 
those `TopicUnthaurizationException`. We basically treat most exceptions 
coming from Kafka as errors that require recovery.


What behaviour would you have in mind as a reaction to those exceptions?

Best,
Aljoscha

On 2021/01/06 17:59, BELGHITH Amira (EXT) wrote:


Thank you for your answer.
I have been subscribed.

This is the previous topic I’m referring to 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/flink-user/202008.mbox/%3CCACzKVZQ093HixMewb_prtP41ceXgmxCv=cmpsbphw-9+h8b...@mail.gmail.com%3E

Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka Consumer 
does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception 
TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one is 
down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle those 
exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not fail?


De : Amira Belghith 
Envoyé : mercredi 6 janvier 2021 18:36
À : BELGHITH Amira (EXT) ResgGtsOpmOptVdf ; 
amira.belghith-...@soge.com
Objet : Fwd: Flink kafka exceptions handling

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De : Piotr Nowojski mailto:pnowoj...@apache.org>>
Date : mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 17:26
Objet : Re: Flink kafka exceptions handling
À : Amira Belghith mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>>
CC : buggi...@gmail.com<mailto:buggi...@gmail.com> 
mailto:buggi...@gmail.com>>

I think you first need to be subscribed as it's explained here [1]. Could you 
also link to which previous topic are you referring to?

Piotrek

[1] https://flink.apache.org/community.html#mailing-lists

śr., 6 sty 2021 o 17:09 Amira Belghith 
mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>> napisał(a):
Hey,
Thanks for your fast reply.
The mail couldnt be delivered to the mailing list.

Le mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 16:59, Piotr Nowojski 
mailto:pnowoj...@apache.org>> a écrit :
Hey,

could you post the question on the user 
mailto:user@flink.apache.org>> mailing list?

Thanks,
Piotrek

śr., 6 sty 2021 o 15:11 Amira Belghith 
mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>> napisał(a):
Hi Nick, Piotr,

Im a software engineer working for Societe Generale bank.
I saw your discussion about FlinkKafkaConsumer and exceptions handling.
I have the same problem for a week now, and I wanted to know if you have found 
a solution.
Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka Consumer 
does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception 
TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one is 
down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle those 
exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not fail?

Thanks a lot for your help,
Amira belghith

=

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Tout message electronique est susceptible d'alteration. La SOCIETE GENERALE
et ses filiales declinent toute responsabilite au titre de ce message
s'il a ete altere, deforme falsifie.

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RE: Flink kafka exceptions handling

2021-01-07 Thread BELGHITH Amira (EXT)
Thanks for your feedbacks.

Please find below my answers:



-Message d'origine-

De : Aljoscha Krettek 

Envoyé : jeudi 7 janvier 2021 13:55

À : user@flink.apache.org

Objet : Re: Flink kafka exceptions handling



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Hi,



When you say that the `JobManager` goes down, you're referring to the fact that 
the Flink job will finish in a failed state after too many exceptions have 
occurred in the `FlinkKafkaConsumer. Is that correct?



--> Yes, this is exactly what I meant, the Flink job is in a failed state



I'm afraid right now there is no code path that would allow catching those 
`TopicUnthaurizationException`. We basically treat most exceptions coming from 
Kafka as errors that require recovery.



--> We can have other exceptions, like like TimeoutException when our Kafka 
brokers are degraded.



What behaviour would you have in mind as a reaction to those exceptions?



--> Our processing System is supposed to continue streaming data even though 
there is some Kafka errors, we are expecting that the KafkaConsumer fails but 
not the Flink job, do you think it is possible?



Best,

Aljoscha



On 2021/01/06 17:59, BELGHITH Amira (EXT) wrote:

>

>Thank you for your answer.

>I have been subscribed.

>

>This is the previous topic I’m referring to

>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/flink-user/202008.mbox/%3CCACz

>KVZQ093HixMewb_prtP41ceXgmxCv=cmpsbphw-9+h8b...@mail.gmail.com%3E

>

>Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka Consumer 
>does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception 
>TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one is 
>down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle those 
>exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not fail?

>

>

>De : Amira Belghith  Envoyé : mercredi 6

>janvier 2021 18:36 À : BELGHITH Amira (EXT) ResgGtsOpmOptVdf

>; amira.belghith-...@soge.com Objet :

>Fwd: Flink kafka exceptions handling

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>mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>>

>CC : buggi...@gmail.com<mailto:buggi...@gmail.com>

>mailto:buggi...@gmail.com>>

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>I think you first need to be subscribed as it's explained here [1]. Could you 
>also link to which previous topic are you referring to?

>

>Piotrek

>

>[1] https://flink.apache.org/community.html#mailing-lists

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>śr., 6 sty 2021 o 17:09 Amira Belghith 
>mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>> napisał(a):

>Hey,

>Thanks for your fast reply.

>The mail couldnt be delivered to the mailing list.

>

>Le mer. 6 janv. 2021 à 16:59, Piotr Nowojski 
>mailto:pnowoj...@apache.org>> a écrit :

>Hey,

>

>could you post the question on the user 
>mailto:user@flink.apache.org>> mailing list?

>

>Thanks,

>Piotrek

>

>śr., 6 sty 2021 o 15:11 Amira Belghith 
>mailto:belghith.am...@gmail.com>> napisał(a):

>Hi Nick, Piotr,

>

>Im a software engineer working for Societe Generale bank.

>I saw your discussion about FlinkKafkaConsumer and exceptions handling.

>I have the same problem for a week now, and I wanted to know if you have found 
>a solution.

>Our flink job manager fails after multiple restarting, when the Kafka Consumer 
>does not find a topic for example. We have a kafka exception 
>TopicUnthaurizationException. We listen to a list a topics and whenever one is 
>down , all our streaming system is down .. is there a way to handle those 
>exceptions in the FlinkKafkaConsumer so the job manager does not fail?

>

>Thanks a lot for your help,

>Amira belghith

>

>=

>

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Re: Flink kafka exceptions handling

2021-01-12 Thread Aljoscha Krettek

On 2021/01/07 14:36, BELGHITH Amira (EXT) wrote:
--> Our processing System is supposed to continue streaming data even 
though there is some Kafka errors, we are expecting that the 
KafkaConsumer fails but not the Flink job, do you think it is possible?


I'm afraid that's not possible with Flink right no. We treat all 
exceptions as errors, which lead to job restarts and eventually complete 
job failure if the restarts exceed the configured limit.


What you could do right now is copy the code for the 
`FlinkKafkaConsumer` and insert exception handling code for the 
exceptions that you would like to exclude. You could even go so far and 
add generic handling code that you can then configure with a list of 
exceptions to ignore when creating the consumer.


I hope that helps!

Best,
Aljoscha