Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista

[tpoth]

I used WTP. 


Tim McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05.08.2008 05:05:14:

> [image removed] 
> 
> Re: Antwort: Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista
> 
> Tim McConnell 
> 
> an:
> 
> user
> 
> 05.08.2008 05:03
> 
> Bitte Antwort an user
> 
> Hi again Thomas, I will do the same tomorrow as well. Just to ensure 
that I 
> follow the same scenario that you are can you tell me if you're 
> using WTP or the 
> Eclipse Update Manager to download the Geronimo 2.1 Server Adapter 
> ?? Thanks very 
> much for you patience and assistance.
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Tim,
> > 
> > Thank you, for the time you spent in this issue.
> > 
> > I go through your manual Installation Instructions and it worked realy 

> > fine.
> > 
> > In my last try, i did the Installation via the new Server Wizzard in 
the 
> > GEP Dialog.
> > Here i tried to add the Geronimo Server 2.1 Adapter.
> > Than Eclipse doe's an automatic restart.
> > If i go to the New Server Wizzard again, there's just the TomCat Stuff 

> > under the Apache branch.
> > But no Geronimo 2.1 as expected.
> > 
> > Now I installed the stuff manualy as you mentioned and it works fine.
> > 
> > I'll go now through the Installation as i did before in a separat 
> > eclipse installation and try to reproduce the error, the i look for 
the 
> > log files you requested.
> > It seems to be the stable GEP Release, but let me first try.
> > 
> > Thx Thomas
> > 
> > P.S. The Howto for the EAR Sample is great. Thx :-)
> > 
> > Tim McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.08.2008 02:19:45:
> > 
> >  > [Bild entfernt]
> >  >
> >  > Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista
> >  >
> >  > Tim McConnell
> >  >
> >  > an:
> >  >
> >  > user
> >  >
> >  > 02.08.2008 02:17
> >  >
> >  > Bitte Antwort an user
> >  >
> >  > Hi Thomas, I'm not exactly positive which documentation you're
> >  > looking at, but if
> >  > you're trying to quickly establish your development environment
> >  > using Eclipse I
> >  > would start here:
> >  >
> >  > -> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/quick-start-fast-and-easy-
> >  > development.html
> >  >
> >  > Also, since you're having some difficulties I would recommend you
> >  > use the manual
> >  > steps throughout. For example you might use these steps below, 
which
> >  > are entirely
> >  > manual.
> >  >
> >  > 1. Manually download and install the Sun JDK 5.0
> >  >
> >  > 2. Create a new Eclipse installation directory for yourself and 
> > thenmanually
> >  > download and install the Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (either 

> > Europa or
> >  > Ganymede) into that new Eclipse installation directory.
> >  >
> >  > 3. Manually download and install the GEP from our unstable site
> >  > (http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/2.1.2).
> >  > Just unzip the
> >  > geronimo-eclipse-plugin-2.1.2-deployable.zip file into your new 
Eclipse
> >  > installation directory.
> >  >
> >  > 4. To verify that these steps have been successful, startup your 
new 
> > Eclipse
> >  > installation and from the workspace select "Help --> About Eclipse
> >  > Platform". In
> >  > the panel that appears you will see anywhere from 4-6 Eclipse icons
> >  > representing
> >  > the various Eclipse projects and/or components installed. You must
> >  > also see the
> >  > Geronimo icon -- if not something has not been installed correctly. 

> > If the
> >  > Geronimo icon does not show up then please attach the .log file in
> >  > the .metadata
> >  > directory of your workspace that you are using and we can probably 
> > figure out
> >  > what's wrong from it. If the Geronimo icon does appear that is a 
very 
> > good
> >  > indication that Eclipse and the GEP have been installed correctly,
> >  > and you can
> >  > continue to the next step.
> >  >
> >  > 5. Manually download and install the Geronimo v2.1.1 with Tomcat 
like 
> > you did
> >  > before, just remember where you installed/unzipped it.
> >  >
> >  > 6. Define a new Geronimo server runtime as described in the 
document
> &g

Re: Antwort: Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista

[Tim McConnell]

Hi again Thomas, I will do the same tomorrow as well. Just to ensure that I 
follow the same scenario that you are can you tell me if you're using WTP or the 
Eclipse Update Manager to download the Geronimo 2.1 Server Adapter ?? Thanks very 
much for you patience and assistance.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Tim,

Thank you, for the time you spent in this issue.
 
I go through your manual Installation Instructions and it worked realy 
fine.


In my last try, i did the Installation via the new Server Wizzard in the 
GEP Dialog.

Here i tried to add the Geronimo Server 2.1 Adapter.
Than Eclipse doe's an automatic restart.
If i go to the New Server Wizzard again, there's just the TomCat Stuff 
under the Apache branch.

But no Geronimo 2.1 as expected.

Now I installed the stuff manualy as you mentioned and it works fine.

I'll go now through the Installation as i did before in a separat 
eclipse installation and try to reproduce the error, the i look for the 
log files you requested.

It seems to be the stable GEP Release, but let me first try.

Thx Thomas

P.S. The Howto for the EAR Sample is great. Thx :-)

Tim McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.08.2008 02:19:45:

 > [Bild entfernt]
 >
 > Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista
 >
 > Tim McConnell
 >
 > an:
 >
 > user
 >
 > 02.08.2008 02:17
 >
 > Bitte Antwort an user
 >
 > Hi Thomas, I'm not exactly positive which documentation you're
 > looking at, but if
 > you're trying to quickly establish your development environment
 > using Eclipse I
 > would start here:
 >
 > -> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/quick-start-fast-and-easy-
 > development.html
 >
 > Also, since you're having some difficulties I would recommend you
 > use the manual
 > steps throughout. For example you might use these steps below, which
 > are entirely
 > manual.
 >
 > 1. Manually download and install the Sun JDK 5.0
 >
 > 2. Create a new Eclipse installation directory for yourself and 
thenmanually
 > download and install the Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (either 
Europa or

 > Ganymede) into that new Eclipse installation directory.
 >
 > 3. Manually download and install the GEP from our unstable site
 > (http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/2.1.2).
 > Just unzip the
 > geronimo-eclipse-plugin-2.1.2-deployable.zip file into your new Eclipse
 > installation directory.
 >
 > 4. To verify that these steps have been successful, startup your new 
Eclipse

 > installation and from the workspace select "Help --> About Eclipse
 > Platform". In
 > the panel that appears you will see anywhere from 4-6 Eclipse icons
 > representing
 > the various Eclipse projects and/or components installed. You must
 > also see the
 > Geronimo icon -- if not something has not been installed correctly. 
If the

 > Geronimo icon does not show up then please attach the .log file in
 > the .metadata
 > directory of your workspace that you are using and we can probably 
figure out
 > what's wrong from it. If the Geronimo icon does appear that is a very 
good

 > indication that Eclipse and the GEP have been installed correctly,
 > and you can
 > continue to the next step.
 >
 > 5. Manually download and install the Geronimo v2.1.1 with Tomcat like 
you did

 > before, just remember where you installed/unzipped it.
 >
 > 6. Define a new Geronimo server runtime as described in the document
 > above, but
 > point to the directory you unzipped it in Step 5 above. If you get 
any errors

 > please copy/paste them in your reply.
 >
 > 7. Next, start the new Geronimo server as described in the document 
above. It

 > should start fine, but again if you get any errors please copy/paste
 > them in your
 > reply.
 >
 > 8. Finally, if the Geronimo server starts up okay, then go through
 > this tutorial.
 > It should work fine as well, but again if you get any errors please 
copy/past

 > them in your reply and also attach the .log file in the .metadata
 > directory of
 > your workspace that you are using.
 >
 > ->
 > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/5-minute-tutorial-on-enterprise-
 > application-development-with-eclipse-and-geronimo.html
 >
 > 9. If you get this far, I would like to make changes to the 
corresponding

 > documentation that you feel is patchy, but first we need to know
 > what specific
 > documentation you've been using.
 >
 > Thanks and please let me know how it goes for you.
 >
 >
 >
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 > >
 > > Hi All,
 > >
 > > i'm currently in an early phase of understanding Geronimo.
 > >
 > > You know
 > > I tried to ..., and i fail.
 

Antwort: Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista

[tpoth]

Hi Tim,

Thank you, for the time you spent in this issue.
 
I go through your manual Installation Instructions and it worked realy 
fine.

In my last try, i did the Installation via the new Server Wizzard in the 
GEP Dialog.
Here i tried to add the Geronimo Server 2.1 Adapter.
Than Eclipse doe's an automatic restart.
If i go to the New Server Wizzard again, there's just the TomCat Stuff 
under the Apache branch.
But no Geronimo 2.1 as expected.

Now I installed the stuff manualy as you mentioned and it works fine.

I'll go now through the Installation as i did before in a separat eclipse 
installation and try to reproduce the error, the i look for the log files 
you requested.
It seems to be the stable GEP Release, but let me first try.

Thx Thomas

P.S. The Howto for the EAR Sample is great. Thx :-)

Tim McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 02.08.2008 02:19:45:

> [Bild entfernt] 
> 
> Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista
> 
> Tim McConnell 
> 
> an:
> 
> user
> 
> 02.08.2008 02:17
> 
> Bitte Antwort an user
> 
> Hi Thomas, I'm not exactly positive which documentation you're 
> looking at, but if 
> you're trying to quickly establish your development environment 
> using Eclipse I 
> would start here:
> 
> -> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/quick-start-fast-and-easy-
> development.html
> 
> Also, since you're having some difficulties I would recommend you 
> use the manual 
> steps throughout. For example you might use these steps below, which
> are entirely 
> manual.
> 
> 1. Manually download and install the Sun JDK 5.0
> 
> 2. Create a new Eclipse installation directory for yourself and 
thenmanually 
> download and install the Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (either 
Europa or 
> Ganymede) into that new Eclipse installation directory.
> 
> 3. Manually download and install the GEP from our unstable site 
> (http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/2.1.2). 
> Just unzip the 
> geronimo-eclipse-plugin-2.1.2-deployable.zip file into your new Eclipse 
> installation directory.
> 
> 4. To verify that these steps have been successful, startup your new 
Eclipse 
> installation and from the workspace select "Help --> About Eclipse 
> Platform". In 
> the panel that appears you will see anywhere from 4-6 Eclipse icons 
> representing 
> the various Eclipse projects and/or components installed. You must 
> also see the 
> Geronimo icon -- if not something has not been installed correctly. If 
the 
> Geronimo icon does not show up then please attach the .log file in 
> the .metadata 
> directory of your workspace that you are using and we can probably 
figure out 
> what's wrong from it. If the Geronimo icon does appear that is a very 
good 
> indication that Eclipse and the GEP have been installed correctly, 
> and you can 
> continue to the next step.
> 
> 5. Manually download and install the Geronimo v2.1.1 with Tomcat like 
you did 
> before, just remember where you installed/unzipped it.
> 
> 6. Define a new Geronimo server runtime as described in the document
> above, but 
> point to the directory you unzipped it in Step 5 above. If you get any 
errors 
> please copy/paste them in your reply.
> 
> 7. Next, start the new Geronimo server as described in the document 
above. It 
> should start fine, but again if you get any errors please copy/paste
> them in your 
> reply.
> 
> 8. Finally, if the Geronimo server starts up okay, then go through 
> this tutorial. 
> It should work fine as well, but again if you get any errors please 
copy/past 
> them in your reply and also attach the .log file in the .metadata 
> directory of 
> your workspace that you are using.
> 
> -> 
> http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/5-minute-tutorial-on-enterprise-
> application-development-with-eclipse-and-geronimo.html
> 
> 9. If you get this far, I would like to make changes to the 
corresponding 
> documentation that you feel is patchy, but first we need to know 
> what specific 
> documentation you've been using.
> 
> Thanks and please let me know how it goes for you.
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > i'm currently in an early phase of understanding Geronimo.
> > 
> > You know
> > I tried to ..., and i fail.
> > 
> > The Documentaion doesen't help in this Situations.
> > There are many step by step howto's, but they are so patchy.
> > 
> > Example:
> > I tried to Setup my Development Environment with Eclipse on a Windows 
> > Vista Business Box.
> > The lates JDK's are installed on it.
> > 
>

Antwort: Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista

[tpoth]

 "Jay D. McHugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 01.08.2008 21:16:18:

> Currently, Geronimo requires a 1.5 (J2SE 5.0) version of Java.

I've tried both, but on Vista nothing works.

On my MacBook Pro all is fine.
Also on a XP Box all the stuff works.

> > There is the quick start topic in the wiki 
> > (http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/quick-start-fast-and-easy-
> development.html) 
> > - have you already looked at that topic?

Yes I know this pages, and i followed them, line by line.

I'll try another Vista Box and we'll so what happens.

@Joe:
Sure if i get - once a day - the experience, i leave a line or two in the 
wiki.
i know that OS Projects live from the cummunity, but at this state of my 
experience that makes no sense.

Best regards
Thomas

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Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista

[Tim McConnell]

Hi Thomas, I'm not exactly positive which documentation you're looking at, but if 
you're trying to quickly establish your development environment using Eclipse I 
would start here:


-> 
http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/quick-start-fast-and-easy-development.html

Also, since you're having some difficulties I would recommend you use the manual 
steps throughout. For example you might use these steps below, which are entirely 
manual.


1. Manually download and install the Sun JDK 5.0

2. Create a new Eclipse installation directory for yourself and then manually 
download and install the Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers (either Europa or 
Ganymede) into that new Eclipse installation directory.


3. Manually download and install the GEP from our unstable site 
(http://people.apache.org/dist/geronimo/eclipse/unstable/2.1.2). Just unzip the 
geronimo-eclipse-plugin-2.1.2-deployable.zip file into your new Eclipse 
installation directory.


4. To verify that these steps have been successful, startup your new Eclipse 
installation and from the workspace select "Help --> About Eclipse Platform". In 
the panel that appears you will see anywhere from 4-6 Eclipse icons representing 
the various Eclipse projects and/or components installed. You must also see the 
Geronimo icon -- if not something has not been installed correctly. If the 
Geronimo icon does not show up then please attach the .log file in the .metadata 
directory of your workspace that you are using and we can probably figure out 
what's wrong from it. If the Geronimo icon does appear that is a very good 
indication that Eclipse and the GEP have been installed correctly, and you can 
continue to the next step.


5. Manually download and install the Geronimo v2.1.1 with Tomcat like you did 
before, just remember where you installed/unzipped it.


6. Define a new Geronimo server runtime as described in the document above, but 
point to the directory you unzipped it in Step 5 above. If you get any errors 
please copy/paste them in your reply.


7. Next, start the new Geronimo server as described in the document above. It 
should start fine, but again if you get any errors please copy/paste them in your 
reply.


8. Finally, if the Geronimo server starts up okay, then go through this tutorial. 
It should work fine as well, but again if you get any errors please copy/past 
them in your reply and also attach the .log file in the .metadata directory of 
your workspace that you are using.


-> 
http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxSAMPLES/5-minute-tutorial-on-enterprise-application-development-with-eclipse-and-geronimo.html


9. If you get this far, I would like to make changes to the corresponding 
documentation that you feel is patchy, but first we need to know what specific 
documentation you've been using.


Thanks and please let me know how it goes for you.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,

i'm currently in an early phase of understanding Geronimo.

You know
I tried to ..., and i fail.

The Documentaion doesen't help in this Situations.
There are many step by step howto's, but they are so patchy.

Example:
I tried to Setup my Development Environment with Eclipse on a Windows 
Vista Business Box.

The lates JDK's are installed on it.

I downloaded the lates stable Geronimo v 2.1.1 with Tomcat JEE, there is 
no hint in the docu, that path langth must be ..., but i think it should 
be there.


I downloaded the latest Eclipse "Ganymede" as JEE5 IDE as described, but 
when i'm trying to install the GEP it fails with dependencie errors.


I downloaded the latest Eclipse "Europa" as JEE5 IDE as described, but 
when i'm trying to install the GEP it fails with dependencie errors.
And be sure i tried all three ways, to get a Geronimo Server in Eclipse 
configured.



I Don't want to post here all the beginners quests.

Is there another source, to get all theses surly solved issues done?

Is there an easy way to Setup my environment. Any Links?

Best regards

GM-Foto GmbH
Thomas Poth

IT-Manager
Tel.: 0049-69-238570-0
Fax: 0049-69-238570-30
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.gmfoto.de



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Thanks,
Tim McConnell

Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista

[Jay D. McHugh]

Thomas,

Also, you mentioned that you are on Vista with the latest JDK.

Currently, Geronimo requires a 1.5 (J2SE 5.0) version of Java.


Jay

Joe Bohn wrote:


Yes, there is certainly room for improvement in documentation.  I think 
that is a struggle for all open source projects and Geronimo is no 
exception.  As I'm sure you've heard before - contributions are welcome 
:-).  Some more comments/questions in-line below.


Joe


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,

i'm currently in an early phase of understanding Geronimo.

You know
I tried to ..., and i fail.

The Documentaion doesen't help in this Situations.
There are many step by step howto's, but they are so patchy.

Example:
I tried to Setup my Development Environment with Eclipse on a Windows 
Vista Business Box.

The lates JDK's are installed on it.

I downloaded the lates stable Geronimo v 2.1.1 with Tomcat JEE, there 
is no hint in the docu, that path langth must be ..., but i think it 
should be there.
There is a reference to the windows path length issue in the README for 
each server image.  We felt this was the best place to include this 
information.  There are probably some other references in the wiki or 
whatever ... but the README is the place we would expect most folks to 
look.  Do you have other recommendations on where you would have 
expected to see a note about this and didn't find one?




I downloaded the latest Eclipse "Ganymede" as JEE5 IDE as described, 
but when i'm trying to install the GEP it fails with dependencie errors.


I downloaded the latest Eclipse "Europa" as JEE5 IDE as described, but 
when i'm trying to install the GEP it fails with dependencie errors.
And be sure i tried all three ways, to get a Geronimo Server in 
Eclipse configured.
I'm not much help on the eclipse side ... perhaps others can give some 
recommendations.





I Don't want to post here all the beginners quests.

Is there another source, to get all theses surly solved issues done?
Aside from the documentation in the wiki I don't have any other 
recommendations.  If you could enhance what is there (or provide new 
pages/topics) to improve the doc based upon your experiences that would 
be terrific.




Is there an easy way to Setup my environment. Any Links?
There is the quick start topic in the wiki 
(http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/quick-start-fast-and-easy-development.html) 
- have you already looked at that topic?





Best regards

GM-Foto GmbH
Thomas Poth

IT-Manager
Tel.: 0049-69-238570-0
Fax: 0049-69-238570-30
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.gmfoto.de



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Telefon: +49 69 238570-0, Telefax: +49 69 238570-30
Eingetragen beim Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main: HRB 19494
Geschäftsführer: Walter Adler und Harald Remsperger

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Re: Patchy documentation, setup dev envirmonment on vista

[Joe Bohn]

Yes, there is certainly room for improvement in documentation.  I think 
that is a struggle for all open source projects and Geronimo is no 
exception.  As I'm sure you've heard before - contributions are welcome 
:-).  Some more comments/questions in-line below.


Joe


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi All,

i'm currently in an early phase of understanding Geronimo.

You know
I tried to ..., and i fail.

The Documentaion doesen't help in this Situations.
There are many step by step howto's, but they are so patchy.

Example:
I tried to Setup my Development Environment with Eclipse on a Windows 
Vista Business Box.

The lates JDK's are installed on it.

I downloaded the lates stable Geronimo v 2.1.1 with Tomcat JEE, there is 
no hint in the docu, that path langth must be ..., but i think it should 
be there.
There is a reference to the windows path length issue in the README for 
each server image.  We felt this was the best place to include this 
information.  There are probably some other references in the wiki or 
whatever ... but the README is the place we would expect most folks to 
look.  Do you have other recommendations on where you would have 
expected to see a note about this and didn't find one?




I downloaded the latest Eclipse "Ganymede" as JEE5 IDE as described, but 
when i'm trying to install the GEP it fails with dependencie errors.


I downloaded the latest Eclipse "Europa" as JEE5 IDE as described, but 
when i'm trying to install the GEP it fails with dependencie errors.
And be sure i tried all three ways, to get a Geronimo Server in Eclipse 
configured.
I'm not much help on the eclipse side ... perhaps others can give some 
recommendations.





I Don't want to post here all the beginners quests.

Is there another source, to get all theses surly solved issues done?
Aside from the documentation in the wiki I don't have any other 
recommendations.  If you could enhance what is there (or provide new 
pages/topics) to improve the doc based upon your experiences that would 
be terrific.




Is there an easy way to Setup my environment. Any Links?
There is the quick start topic in the wiki 
(http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/quick-start-fast-and-easy-development.html) 
- have you already looked at that topic?





Best regards

GM-Foto GmbH
Thomas Poth

IT-Manager
Tel.: 0049-69-238570-0
Fax: 0049-69-238570-30
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: www.gmfoto.de



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Eingetragen beim Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main: HRB 19494
Geschäftsführer: Walter Adler und Harald Remsperger

Öffnungszeiten: Montag - Freitag, 9:00 - 18:30 Uhr

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