RE: Benchmarking Hive Changes

2014-03-05 Thread java8964
Are you doing on standalone one box? How large are your test files and how long 
of the jobs of each type took?
Yong

 From: anth...@mattas.net
 Subject: Benchmarking Hive Changes
 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 21:31:42 -0500
 To: user@hadoop.apache.org
 
 I’ve been trying to benchmark some of the Hive enhancements in Hadoop 2.0 
 using the HDP Sandbox. 
 
 I took one of their example queries and executed it with the tables stored as 
 TEXTFILE, RCFILE, and ORC. I also tried enabling enabling vectorized 
 execution, and predicate pushdown.
 
 SELECT s07.description, s07.salary, s08.salary,
   s08.salary - s07.salary
 FROM
   sample_07 s07 JOIN sample_08 s08
 ON ( s07.code = s08.code)
 WHERE
  s07.salary  s08.salary
 SORT BY s08.salary-s07.salary DESC
 
 Ultimately there was not much different performance in any of the executions, 
 can someone clarify for me if I need an actual full cluster to see 
 performance improvements, or if I’m missing something else. I thought at 
 minimum I would have seen an improvement moving to ORC from TEXTFILE.
  

Re: Benchmarking Hive Changes

2014-03-05 Thread Anthony Mattas
Yes, I'm using the HortonWorks Data Platform 2.0 Sandbox which is a
standalone box.

But shame on me it looks like the files are both very tiny (46K), I'm
seeing about 23 seconds per query, which appears mostly to be starting up
MR.

So I'm going to find a new data set and try again, is there any types of
optimizations that can be done to reduce the start up time?

Ultimately I'm trying to compare the response time in Hive versus an EDW
platform - of course I still expect the EDW to perform more performantly,
but with the advancements in the newer versions of Hive I'm hoping for at
least a reasonable response for a user wishing to do interactive querying.
Specifically using Hive, I know you can get really good performance out of
Impala, but am not yet interested in going that route.

Anthony Mattas
anth...@mattas.net


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:47 AM, java8964 java8...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Are you doing on standalone one box? How large are your test files and how
 long of the jobs of each type took?

 Yong

  From: anth...@mattas.net
  Subject: Benchmarking Hive Changes
  Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 21:31:42 -0500
  To: user@hadoop.apache.org

 
  I've been trying to benchmark some of the Hive enhancements in Hadoop
 2.0 using the HDP Sandbox.
 
  I took one of their example queries and executed it with the tables
 stored as TEXTFILE, RCFILE, and ORC. I also tried enabling enabling
 vectorized execution, and predicate pushdown.
 
  SELECT s07.description, s07.salary, s08.salary,
  s08.salary - s07.salary
  FROM
  sample_07 s07 JOIN sample_08 s08
  ON ( s07.code = s08.code)
  WHERE
  s07.salary  s08.salary
  SORT BY s08.salary-s07.salary DESC
 
  Ultimately there was not much different performance in any of the
 executions, can someone clarify for me if I need an actual full cluster to
 see performance improvements, or if I'm missing something else. I thought
 at minimum I would have seen an improvement moving to ORC from TEXTFILE.



Re: Benchmarking Hive Changes

2014-03-05 Thread Olivier Renault
The last iteration of stinger is coming with Tez.

The HDP 2 sandbox that you're using is not including Tez. You can add it
manually if you would like (doc is available on Hortonworks.com/labs) or
it'll be available of the HDP 2.1 sandbox.

Kind regards
Olivier
On 5 Mar 2014 17:15, Anthony Mattas anth...@mattas.net wrote:

 Hi Yong,

 I'm confused - I'm using Hive 0.12.0, shouldn't that be using stinger by
 default? Or is there configurations that have to be enabled?

 Anthony Mattas
 anth...@mattas.net


 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:06 AM, java8964 java8...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Your files are too small for any meaningful test of these 3 file types.

 Most of the 23 seconds are spending on preparing/starting your MR job and
 shutdown.

 You need at least Gs data to compare the performance of these 3 types, to
 get any meaningful result.

 But as long as it is Hive on top of MapReduce, it will be really hard to
 archive an interactive result. MapReduce is a batch mode, period.

 You do want to consider Impala/spark or Apache stinger, if you really are
 looking for interactive.

 Yong

 --
 Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2014 09:02:32 -0500
 Subject: Re: Benchmarking Hive Changes
 From: anth...@mattas.net
 To: user@hadoop.apache.org


 Yes, I'm using the HortonWorks Data Platform 2.0 Sandbox which is a
 standalone box.

 But shame on me it looks like the files are both very tiny (46K), I'm
 seeing about 23 seconds per query, which appears mostly to be starting up
 MR.

 So I'm going to find a new data set and try again, is there any types of
 optimizations that can be done to reduce the start up time?

 Ultimately I'm trying to compare the response time in Hive versus an EDW
 platform - of course I still expect the EDW to perform more performantly,
 but with the advancements in the newer versions of Hive I'm hoping for at
 least a reasonable response for a user wishing to do interactive querying.
 Specifically using Hive, I know you can get really good performance out of
 Impala, but am not yet interested in going that route.

 Anthony Mattas
 anth...@mattas.net


 On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:47 AM, java8964 java8...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Are you doing on standalone one box? How large are your test files and
 how long of the jobs of each type took?

 Yong

  From: anth...@mattas.net
  Subject: Benchmarking Hive Changes
  Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 21:31:42 -0500
  To: user@hadoop.apache.org

 
  I've been trying to benchmark some of the Hive enhancements in Hadoop
 2.0 using the HDP Sandbox.
 
  I took one of their example queries and executed it with the tables
 stored as TEXTFILE, RCFILE, and ORC. I also tried enabling enabling
 vectorized execution, and predicate pushdown.
 
  SELECT s07.description, s07.salary, s08.salary,
  s08.salary - s07.salary
  FROM
  sample_07 s07 JOIN sample_08 s08
  ON ( s07.code = s08.code)
  WHERE
  s07.salary  s08.salary
  SORT BY s08.salary-s07.salary DESC
 
  Ultimately there was not much different performance in any of the
 executions, can someone clarify for me if I need an actual full cluster to
 see performance improvements, or if I'm missing something else. I thought
 at minimum I would have seen an improvement moving to ORC from TEXTFILE.





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