PIG vs HIVE

2012-10-17 Thread yogesh dhari

Hi All,

I want to understand about the exceptional cases where Hive takes over Pig and 
Pig takes over Hive.

leaving the Fact Pig is best as an ETL Tool and Hive is best Data Warehouse.

Please suggest me me the real use cases for both.

Thanks Regards
Yogesh Kumar



  

Re: PIG vs HIVE

2012-10-17 Thread Nitin Pawar
you may want to read the following pages
one is from pig architect
http://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/hadoop/posts/2010/01/comparing_pig_latin_and_sql_fo/

http://www.larsgeorge.com/2009/10/hive-vs-pig.html

also remember that these technologies are evolving

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:32 AM, yogesh dhari yogeshdh...@live.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I want to understand about the exceptional cases where Hive takes over Pig
 and Pig takes over Hive.

 leaving the Fact Pig is best as an ETL Tool and Hive is best Data Warehouse.

 Please suggest me me the real use cases for both.

 Thanks Regards
 Yogesh Kumar






-- 
Nitin Pawar


Re: Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-20 Thread Bharath Mundlapudi
Thanks all for the links. But i must say none of the links covered my
question. The link, Aniket provided has some information which i already
looked at - Author probably need to update the content.

I was looking for new features up-to-date comparison.

-Bharath

On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Bertrand Dechoux decho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Although the two first links are interesting reads, I would recommend you
 the last one provided by Russel.

 The key thing is not to think I will choose the most efficient wrt
 to performance but I will choose the most in tune with my use cases.
 Secondly, HCatalog is really something worth mentioning. Basically, the
 difference in format handling as explained in the other articles is less
 hard-lined now.

 Regards

 Bertrand


 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Russell Jurney 
 russell.jur...@gmail.comwrote:

 A presentation on Hive vs Pig by a committer on both projects is here:
 http://hortonworks.com/blog/hadoop-features-large-at-stanford-xldb/


 Russell Jurney
 twitter.com/rjurney
 russell.jur...@gmail.com
 datasyndrome.com

 On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Aniket Mokashi aniket...@gmail.com wrote:

 (Probably not what you are looking for) Check -
 http://www.larsgeorge.com/2009/10/hive-vs-pig.html

 ~Aniket

 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Russell Jurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 A detailed post comparing Pig/Hive performance from last week:
 http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-performance-and-optimization-analysis/

 Russell Jurney
 twitter.com/rjurney
 russell.jur...@gmail.com
 datasyndrome.com

 On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Anurag Tangri tangri.anu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Knowing performance statistics would be good too.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bharath Mundlapudi mundlap...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Community,
 
  Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by
 Pig 0.8 (0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?
 
  -Bharath




 --
 ...:::Aniket:::... Quetzalco@tl




 --
 Bertrand Dechoux



Re: Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-20 Thread Edward Capriolo
While pig and hive are mostly the same (as they abstract you from the
internals of map reduce) they are totally different (as one is a flow
language and one is an interpreted sql like language).

So the differences are too numerous to mention.

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Bharath Mundlapudi
mundlap...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks all for the links. But i must say none of the links covered my
 question. The link, Aniket provided has some information which i already
 looked at - Author probably need to update the content.

 I was looking for new features up-to-date comparison.

 -Bharath

 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Bertrand Dechoux decho...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Although the two first links are interesting reads, I would recommend you
 the last one provided by Russel.

 The key thing is not to think I will choose the most efficient wrt to
 performance but I will choose the most in tune with my use cases.
 Secondly, HCatalog is really something worth mentioning. Basically, the
 difference in format handling as explained in the other articles is less
 hard-lined now.

 Regards

 Bertrand


 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Russell Jurney russell.jur...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 A presentation on Hive vs Pig by a committer on both projects is here:
 http://hortonworks.com/blog/hadoop-features-large-at-stanford-xldb/


 Russell Jurney
 twitter.com/rjurney
 russell.jur...@gmail.com
 datasyndrome.com

 On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Aniket Mokashi aniket...@gmail.com wrote:

 (Probably not what you are looking for) Check
 -http://www.larsgeorge.com/2009/10/hive-vs-pig.html

 ~Aniket

 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Russell Jurney
 russell.jur...@gmail.com wrote:

 A detailed post comparing Pig/Hive performance from last week:
 http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-performance-and-optimization-analysis/

 Russell Jurney
 twitter.com/rjurney
 russell.jur...@gmail.com
 datasyndrome.com

 On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Anurag Tangri tangri.anu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Knowing performance statistics would be good too.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bharath Mundlapudi
  mundlap...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello Community,
 
  Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by
  Pig 0.8 (0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?
 
  -Bharath




 --
 ...:::Aniket:::... Quetzalco@tl




 --
 Bertrand Dechoux




Re: Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-20 Thread Bharath Mundlapudi
 So the differences are too numerous to mention.

From a feature point of view (at a macro level) not many difference. IMHO,
Lars did a fantastic job of listing those differences. Unfortunately, both
the projects are moving targets and that article needs an update. If time
permits, I will write a blog on this.

-Bharath


On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Edward Capriolo edlinuxg...@gmail.comwrote:

 While pig and hive are mostly the same (as they abstract you from the
 internals of map reduce) they are totally different (as one is a flow
 language and one is an interpreted sql like language).

 So the differences are too numerous to mention.

 On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Bharath Mundlapudi
 mundlap...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks all for the links. But i must say none of the links covered my
  question. The link, Aniket provided has some information which i already
  looked at - Author probably need to update the content.
 
  I was looking for new features up-to-date comparison.
 
  -Bharath
 
  On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Bertrand Dechoux decho...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Although the two first links are interesting reads, I would recommend
 you
  the last one provided by Russel.
 
  The key thing is not to think I will choose the most efficient wrt to
  performance but I will choose the most in tune with my use cases.
  Secondly, HCatalog is really something worth mentioning. Basically, the
  difference in format handling as explained in the other articles is less
  hard-lined now.
 
  Regards
 
  Bertrand
 
 
  On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:42 AM, Russell Jurney 
 russell.jur...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  A presentation on Hive vs Pig by a committer on both projects is here:
  http://hortonworks.com/blog/hadoop-features-large-at-stanford-xldb/
 
 
  Russell Jurney
  twitter.com/rjurney
  russell.jur...@gmail.com
  datasyndrome.com
 
  On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Aniket Mokashi aniket...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  (Probably not what you are looking for) Check
  -http://www.larsgeorge.com/2009/10/hive-vs-pig.html
 
  ~Aniket
 
  On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Russell Jurney
  russell.jur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  A detailed post comparing Pig/Hive performance from last week:
 
 http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-performance-and-optimization-analysis/
 
  Russell Jurney
  twitter.com/rjurney
  russell.jur...@gmail.com
  datasyndrome.com
 
  On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Anurag Tangri tangri.anu...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Knowing performance statistics would be good too.
  
   Sent from my iPhone
  
   On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bharath Mundlapudi
   mundlap...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hello Community,
  
   Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by
   Pig 0.8 (0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?
  
   -Bharath
 
 
 
 
  --
  ...:::Aniket:::... Quetzalco@tl
 
 
 
 
  --
  Bertrand Dechoux
 
 



Re: Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-18 Thread Aniket Mokashi
(Probably not what you are looking for) Check -
http://www.larsgeorge.com/2009/10/hive-vs-pig.html

~Aniket

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Russell Jurney russell.jur...@gmail.comwrote:

 A detailed post comparing Pig/Hive performance from last week:
 http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-performance-and-optimization-analysis/

 Russell Jurney
 twitter.com/rjurney
 russell.jur...@gmail.com
 datasyndrome.com

 On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Anurag Tangri tangri.anu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Knowing performance statistics would be good too.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bharath Mundlapudi mundlap...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Community,
 
  Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by Pig
 0.8 (0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?
 
  -Bharath




-- 
...:::Aniket:::... Quetzalco@tl


Re: Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-18 Thread Russell Jurney
A presentation on Hive vs Pig by a committer on both projects is here:
http://hortonworks.com/blog/hadoop-features-large-at-stanford-xldb/

Russell Jurney
twitter.com/rjurney
russell.jur...@gmail.com
datasyndrome.com

On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Aniket Mokashi aniket...@gmail.com wrote:

(Probably not what you are looking for) Check -
http://www.larsgeorge.com/2009/10/hive-vs-pig.html

~Aniket

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Russell Jurney russell.jur...@gmail.comwrote:

 A detailed post comparing Pig/Hive performance from last week:
 http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-performance-and-optimization-analysis/

 Russell Jurney
 twitter.com/rjurney
 russell.jur...@gmail.com
 datasyndrome.com

 On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Anurag Tangri tangri.anu...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Knowing performance statistics would be good too.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bharath Mundlapudi mundlap...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Community,
 
  Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by Pig
 0.8 (0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?
 
  -Bharath




-- 
...:::Aniket:::... Quetzalco@tl


Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-14 Thread Bharath Mundlapudi
Hello Community,

Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by Pig 0.8
(0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?

-Bharath


Re: Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-14 Thread Anurag Tangri
Knowing performance statistics would be good too.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bharath Mundlapudi mundlap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Community,
 
 Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by Pig 0.8 
 (0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?
 
 -Bharath


Re: Latest Pig vs Hive comparisons

2012-09-14 Thread Russell Jurney
A detailed post comparing Pig/Hive performance from last week:
http://hortonworks.com/blog/pig-performance-and-optimization-analysis/

Russell Jurney
twitter.com/rjurney
russell.jur...@gmail.com
datasyndrome.com

On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Anurag Tangri tangri.anu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Knowing performance statistics would be good too.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Bharath Mundlapudi mundlap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Community,

 Is there any document/blog comparing different features offered by Pig 0.8 
 (0.9, 0.10) or greater and Hive 0.8 (0.9)?

 -Bharath