Re: Want query to use more reducers

2013-09-30 Thread Sean Busbey
Hey Keith,

It sounds like you should tweak the settings for how Hive handles query
execution[1]:

1) Tune the guessed number of reducers based on input size

= hive.exec.reducers.bytes.per.reducer

Defaults to 1G. Based on your description, it sounds like this is probably
still at default.

In this case, you should also set a max # of reducers based on your cluster
size.

= hive.exec.reducers.max

I usually set this to the # reduce slots, if there's a decent chance I'll
get to saturate the cluster. If not, don't worry about it.

2) Hard code a number of reducers

= mapred.reduce.tasks

Setting this will cause Hive to always use that number. It defaults to -1,
which tells hive to use the heuristic about input size to guess.

In either of the above cases, you should look at the options to merge small
files (search for merge  in the configuration property list) to avoid
getting lots of little outputs.

HTH

[1]:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/Configuration+Properties#ConfigurationProperties-QueryExecution

-Sean

On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Keith Wiley kwi...@keithwiley.com wrote:

 I have a query that doesn't use reducers as efficiently as I would hope.
  If I run it on a large table, it uses more reducers, even saturating the
 cluster, as I desire.  However, on smaller tables it uses as low as a
 single reducer.  While I understand there is a logic in this (not using
 multiple reducers until the data size is larger), it is nevertheless
 inefficient to run a query for thirty minutes leaving the entire cluster
 vacant when the query could distribute the work evenly and wrap things up
 in a fraction of the time.  The query is shown below (abstracted to its
 basic form).  As you can see, it is a little atypical: it is a nested query
 which obviously implies two map-reduce jobs and it uses a script for the
 reducer stage that I am trying to speed up.  I thought the distribute by
 clause should make it use the reducers more evenly, but as I said, that is
 not the behavior I am seeing.

 Any ideas how I could improve this situation?

 Thanks.

 CREATE TABLE output_table ROW FORMAT DELIMITED FIELDS TERMINATED BY '|' as
 SELECT * FROM (
 FROM (
 SELECT * FROM input_table
 DISTRIBUTE BY input_column_1 SORT BY input_column_1 ASC,
 input_column_2 ASC, input_column_etc ASC) q
 SELECT TRANSFORM(*)
 USING 'python my_reducer_script.py' AS(
 output_column_1,
 output_column_2,
 output_column_etc,
 )
 ) s
 ORDER BY output_column_1;


 
 Keith Wiley kwi...@keithwiley.com keithwiley.com
 music.keithwiley.com

 Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
--  Yoda

 




-- 
Sean


Re: Want query to use more reducers

2013-09-30 Thread Keith Wiley
Thanks.  mapred.reduce.tasks and hive.exec.reducers.max seem to have fixed the 
problem.  It is now saturating the cluster and running the query super fast.  
Excellent!

On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:28 , Sean Busbey wrote:

 Hey Keith,
 
 It sounds like you should tweak the settings for how Hive handles query 
 execution[1]:
 
 1) Tune the guessed number of reducers based on input size
 
 = hive.exec.reducers.bytes.per.reducer
 
 Defaults to 1G. Based on your description, it sounds like this is probably 
 still at default.
 
 In this case, you should also set a max # of reducers based on your cluster 
 size.
 
 = hive.exec.reducers.max
 
 I usually set this to the # reduce slots, if there's a decent chance I'll get 
 to saturate the cluster. If not, don't worry about it.
 
 2) Hard code a number of reducers
 
 = mapred.reduce.tasks
 
 Setting this will cause Hive to always use that number. It defaults to -1, 
 which tells hive to use the heuristic about input size to guess.
 
 In either of the above cases, you should look at the options to merge small 
 files (search for merge  in the configuration property list) to avoid 
 getting lots of little outputs.
 
 HTH
 
 [1]: 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/Hive/Configuration+Properties#ConfigurationProperties-QueryExecution
 
 -Sean
 
 On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Keith Wiley kwi...@keithwiley.com wrote:
 I have a query that doesn't use reducers as efficiently as I would hope.  If 
 I run it on a large table, it uses more reducers, even saturating the 
 cluster, as I desire.  However, on smaller tables it uses as low as a single 
 reducer.  While I understand there is a logic in this (not using multiple 
 reducers until the data size is larger), it is nevertheless inefficient to 
 run a query for thirty minutes leaving the entire cluster vacant when the 
 query could distribute the work evenly and wrap things up in a fraction of 
 the time.  The query is shown below (abstracted to its basic form).  As you 
 can see, it is a little atypical: it is a nested query which obviously 
 implies two map-reduce jobs and it uses a script for the reducer stage that I 
 am trying to speed up.  I thought the distribute by clause should make it 
 use the reducers more evenly, but as I said, that is not the behavior I am 
 seeing.
 
 Any ideas how I could improve this situation?
 
 Thanks.
 
 CREATE TABLE output_table ROW FORMAT DELIMITED FIELDS TERMINATED BY '|' as
 SELECT * FROM (
 FROM (
 SELECT * FROM input_table
 DISTRIBUTE BY input_column_1 SORT BY input_column_1 ASC, 
 input_column_2 ASC, input_column_etc ASC) q
 SELECT TRANSFORM(*)
 USING 'python my_reducer_script.py' AS(
 output_column_1,
 output_column_2,
 output_column_etc,
 )
 ) s
 ORDER BY output_column_1;
 
 
 Keith Wiley kwi...@keithwiley.com keithwiley.com
 music.keithwiley.com
 
 Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
--  Yoda
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sean



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