Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ?
Hi, I just wanted to ask if there has been any advance on this/ Cheers, Pablo On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Rick Bullotta rick.bullo...@thingworx.comwrote: Of course! -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Hansson Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:53 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? That would be really interesting! I'll make a note of it and ping you when this gets up to the top of the backlog, if that's ok with you? /Jake On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Rick Bullotta rick.bullo...@thingworx.comwrote: We're doing something similar as part of a visual search engine for ThingWorx. Our UX designers might be able to provide some recommendations/input on Neo4J DB visualization also. -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Hansson Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:30 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Rick Bullotta rick.bullo...@thingworx.com wrote: I think that both Neo4J and webadmin should have the option of specifying first N relationships as a limiter. This limit should be on a per-relationship basis (e.g. the first N of each type, rather than simply the first N relationships). This way, you would be able to visualize all of the relationship types that go in/out of the node, but not be overwhelmed with one specific relationship type. Also, it would be ideal if some visual cue that there were more relationships of a given type could be provided (e.g. a relationship line to a box labeled ...and 10,679 more From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Pablo Pareja [ppar...@era7.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:44 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? Hi Mattias, what about the hypothetical scenario where there are ~ 1.000.000 relationships going out from a node, would the visualization tool try to plot all theses relationships? If not, would it first fetch them all and then plot a 1.000.000 group node? Or would it rather plot something like* more than 'x' relationships coming out from here*? Currently, it would pull down all relationships, and render a group. Since we've added support for paging traversals since that code was written, we could do something like what Rick is suggesting. It would be fun to sketch a bit on how a UI like that could work.. There is quite a bit of stuff in the webadmin backlog, so this won't get done right now, but it will eventually bubble to the top of the list :) Cheers, Pablo On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think if there are any hard limits in the webadmin visualizer, It mostly depends on your computer and browser (what with the implementation of web workers and all) I'd say. 2011/10/13 Pablo Pareja ppar...@era7.com Hi, I was looking for a way to visualize and interact with small subsets of large Neo4j databases, *(somehow* *navigating through the data in order to have a general idea of how things are organized at specific parts* *of my DB)*. So before starting to create my own solution to that, I'd like to know which are the limits/constraints of the new WebAdmin tool ?* (in terms of number of rels/nodes in the neighborhood/ total DB)* Thanks, Pablo -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Mattias Persson, [matt...@neotechnology.com] Hacker, Neo Technology www.neotechnology.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https
Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ?
Hi Pablo, I don't think if there are any hard limits in the webadmin visualizer, It mostly depends on your computer and browser (what with the implementation of web workers and all) I'd say. 2011/10/13 Pablo Pareja ppar...@era7.com Hi, I was looking for a way to visualize and interact with small subsets of large Neo4j databases, *(somehow* *navigating through the data in order to have a general idea of how things are organized at specific parts* *of my DB)*. So before starting to create my own solution to that, I'd like to know which are the limits/constraints of the new WebAdmin tool ?* (in terms of number of rels/nodes in the neighborhood/ total DB)* Thanks, Pablo -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Mattias Persson, [matt...@neotechnology.com] Hacker, Neo Technology www.neotechnology.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ?
Hi Mattias, what about the hypothetical scenario where there are ~ 1.000.000 relationships going out from a node, would the visualization tool try to plot all theses relationships? If not, would it first fetch them all and then plot a 1.000.000 group node? Or would it rather plot something like* more than 'x' relationships coming out from here*? Cheers, Pablo On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think if there are any hard limits in the webadmin visualizer, It mostly depends on your computer and browser (what with the implementation of web workers and all) I'd say. 2011/10/13 Pablo Pareja ppar...@era7.com Hi, I was looking for a way to visualize and interact with small subsets of large Neo4j databases, *(somehow* *navigating through the data in order to have a general idea of how things are organized at specific parts* *of my DB)*. So before starting to create my own solution to that, I'd like to know which are the limits/constraints of the new WebAdmin tool ?* (in terms of number of rels/nodes in the neighborhood/ total DB)* Thanks, Pablo -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Mattias Persson, [matt...@neotechnology.com] Hacker, Neo Technology www.neotechnology.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ?
I thoroughly agree with Rick. Pablo On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Rick Bullotta rick.bullo...@thingworx.com wrote: I think that both Neo4J and webadmin should have the option of specifying first N relationships as a limiter. This limit should be on a per-relationship basis (e.g. the first N of each type, rather than simply the first N relationships). This way, you would be able to visualize all of the relationship types that go in/out of the node, but not be overwhelmed with one specific relationship type. Also, it would be ideal if some visual cue that there were more relationships of a given type could be provided (e.g. a relationship line to a box labeled ...and 10,679 more From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Pablo Pareja [ppar...@era7.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:44 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? Hi Mattias, what about the hypothetical scenario where there are ~ 1.000.000 relationships going out from a node, would the visualization tool try to plot all theses relationships? If not, would it first fetch them all and then plot a 1.000.000 group node? Or would it rather plot something like* more than 'x' relationships coming out from here*? Cheers, Pablo On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think if there are any hard limits in the webadmin visualizer, It mostly depends on your computer and browser (what with the implementation of web workers and all) I'd say. 2011/10/13 Pablo Pareja ppar...@era7.com Hi, I was looking for a way to visualize and interact with small subsets of large Neo4j databases, *(somehow* *navigating through the data in order to have a general idea of how things are organized at specific parts* *of my DB)*. So before starting to create my own solution to that, I'd like to know which are the limits/constraints of the new WebAdmin tool ?* (in terms of number of rels/nodes in the neighborhood/ total DB)* Thanks, Pablo -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Mattias Persson, [matt...@neotechnology.com] Hacker, Neo Technology www.neotechnology.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ?
We're doing something similar as part of a visual search engine for ThingWorx. Our UX designers might be able to provide some recommendations/input on Neo4J DB visualization also. -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Hansson Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:30 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Rick Bullotta rick.bullo...@thingworx.com wrote: I think that both Neo4J and webadmin should have the option of specifying first N relationships as a limiter. This limit should be on a per-relationship basis (e.g. the first N of each type, rather than simply the first N relationships). This way, you would be able to visualize all of the relationship types that go in/out of the node, but not be overwhelmed with one specific relationship type. Also, it would be ideal if some visual cue that there were more relationships of a given type could be provided (e.g. a relationship line to a box labeled ...and 10,679 more From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Pablo Pareja [ppar...@era7.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:44 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? Hi Mattias, what about the hypothetical scenario where there are ~ 1.000.000 relationships going out from a node, would the visualization tool try to plot all theses relationships? If not, would it first fetch them all and then plot a 1.000.000 group node? Or would it rather plot something like* more than 'x' relationships coming out from here*? Currently, it would pull down all relationships, and render a group. Since we've added support for paging traversals since that code was written, we could do something like what Rick is suggesting. It would be fun to sketch a bit on how a UI like that could work.. There is quite a bit of stuff in the webadmin backlog, so this won't get done right now, but it will eventually bubble to the top of the list :) Cheers, Pablo On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think if there are any hard limits in the webadmin visualizer, It mostly depends on your computer and browser (what with the implementation of web workers and all) I'd say. 2011/10/13 Pablo Pareja ppar...@era7.com Hi, I was looking for a way to visualize and interact with small subsets of large Neo4j databases, *(somehow* *navigating through the data in order to have a general idea of how things are organized at specific parts* *of my DB)*. So before starting to create my own solution to that, I'd like to know which are the limits/constraints of the new WebAdmin tool ?* (in terms of number of rels/nodes in the neighborhood/ total DB)* Thanks, Pablo -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Mattias Persson, [matt...@neotechnology.com] Hacker, Neo Technology www.neotechnology.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Jacob Hansson Phone: +46 (0) 763503395 Twitter: @jakewins ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ?
Of course! -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Hansson Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:53 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? That would be really interesting! I'll make a note of it and ping you when this gets up to the top of the backlog, if that's ok with you? /Jake On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Rick Bullotta rick.bullo...@thingworx.comwrote: We're doing something similar as part of a visual search engine for ThingWorx. Our UX designers might be able to provide some recommendations/input on Neo4J DB visualization also. -Original Message- From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [mailto:user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Hansson Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 8:30 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Rick Bullotta rick.bullo...@thingworx.com wrote: I think that both Neo4J and webadmin should have the option of specifying first N relationships as a limiter. This limit should be on a per-relationship basis (e.g. the first N of each type, rather than simply the first N relationships). This way, you would be able to visualize all of the relationship types that go in/out of the node, but not be overwhelmed with one specific relationship type. Also, it would be ideal if some visual cue that there were more relationships of a given type could be provided (e.g. a relationship line to a box labeled ...and 10,679 more From: user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org [user-boun...@lists.neo4j.org] On Behalf Of Pablo Pareja [ppar...@era7.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:44 AM To: Neo4j user discussions Subject: Re: [Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ? Hi Mattias, what about the hypothetical scenario where there are ~ 1.000.000 relationships going out from a node, would the visualization tool try to plot all theses relationships? If not, would it first fetch them all and then plot a 1.000.000 group node? Or would it rather plot something like* more than 'x' relationships coming out from here*? Currently, it would pull down all relationships, and render a group. Since we've added support for paging traversals since that code was written, we could do something like what Rick is suggesting. It would be fun to sketch a bit on how a UI like that could work.. There is quite a bit of stuff in the webadmin backlog, so this won't get done right now, but it will eventually bubble to the top of the list :) Cheers, Pablo On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Mattias Persson matt...@neotechnology.com wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think if there are any hard limits in the webadmin visualizer, It mostly depends on your computer and browser (what with the implementation of web workers and all) I'd say. 2011/10/13 Pablo Pareja ppar...@era7.com Hi, I was looking for a way to visualize and interact with small subsets of large Neo4j databases, *(somehow* *navigating through the data in order to have a general idea of how things are organized at specific parts* *of my DB)*. So before starting to create my own solution to that, I'd like to know which are the limits/constraints of the new WebAdmin tool ?* (in terms of number of rels/nodes in the neighborhood/ total DB)* Thanks, Pablo -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Mattias Persson, [matt...@neotechnology.com] Hacker, Neo Technology www.neotechnology.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user -- Jacob Hansson Phone: +46 (0) 763503395 Twitter: @jakewins ___ Neo4j mailing list User
[Neo4j] WebAdmin visualization tool for large DB ?
Hi, I was looking for a way to visualize and interact with small subsets of large Neo4j databases, *(somehow* *navigating through the data in order to have a general idea of how things are organized at specific parts* *of my DB)*. So before starting to create my own solution to that, I'd like to know which are the limits/constraints of the new WebAdmin tool ?* (in terms of number of rels/nodes in the neighborhood/ total DB)* Thanks, Pablo -- Pablo Pareja Tobes My site http://about.me/pablopareja LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/pabloparejatobes Twitter http://www.twitter.com/pablopareja Creator of Bio4j -- http://www.bio4j.com http://www.ohnosequences.com ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
