Re: New logo

2017-05-06 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came up 
with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the old 
logo printed in 2009.


Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant :
>Thanks Scott,
>
>You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
>native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
>
>Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
>anything about the origins/uses of this:
>https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
>It seems to be a green mahout logo.
>
>Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
>website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
>apppreciate
>some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
>in
>some headers but those are only directional:
>
>https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/community/history.md
>
>
>
>Trevor Grant
>Data Scientist
>https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>http://trevorgrant.org
>
>*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>
>
>On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote 
>wrote:
>
>> Trevor et al:
>>
>> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
>>
>> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
>> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
>implementation.
>> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
>>
>> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
>but it
>> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
>technology.
>>
>> Math is a universal language.  Right?
>>
>> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
>>
>> SCott
>>
>> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
>like the
>> > ones in front of me...
>> >
>> > I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
>back to
>> > me.
>> >
>> > The Enso.
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
>> >
>> > Things I like about it:
>> > (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
>prior
>> is
>> > that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
>> > It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
>> > ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
>Hebrew-
>> > which may be something akin to essence or truth.
>> >
>> > It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
>> >
>> > It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
>which
>> > symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
>> expressive
>> > like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
>but
>> I'm
>> > spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
>> >
>> > "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
>> > character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
>brief,
>> > contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
>> >
>> > In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
>which
>> a
>> > little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
>create a
>> > perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
>and
>> how
>> > could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
>such
>> > things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
>> striving
>> > for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
>solving
>> > problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
>that
>> we
>> > can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
>serve as
>> > our blueprint.
>> >
>> > Finally, I like that it is simple.
>> >
>> > Things I don't like about it:
>> > Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
>very
>> > specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
>> >
>> > Other thoughts:
>> > Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
>color
>> > palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
>This
>> > could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
>does
>> to
>> > our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
>that
>> is
>> > the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
>> >
>> > So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more
>grown up
>> > than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb
>waving
>> > cowboy hat, blueman riding lighting bolt into a squirrel covered in
>> water,
>> > etc).
>> >
>> > Again, only know what wiki has told me, so if anyone is more
>familiar
>> with
>> > this symbol (like was it used as a logo by some horrible dictator
>which
>> > carried out terrible attrocities?) or just general comments.
>> > tg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Trevor Grant
>> > Data Scientist
>> > https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>> > http://stackexchange.com/user

Re: New logo

2017-05-06 Thread Ted Dunning
I know where one of those t-shirts is.



On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm 
wrote:

> The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came
> up with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the
> old logo printed in 2009.
>
>
> Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <
> trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>:
> >Thanks Scott,
> >
> >You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
> >native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
> >
> >Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
> >anything about the origins/uses of this:
> >https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
> >It seems to be a green mahout logo.
> >
> >Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
> >website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
> >apppreciate
> >some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
> >in
> >some headers but those are only directional:
> >
> >https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/
> community/history.md
> >
> >
> >
> >Trevor Grant
> >Data Scientist
> >https://github.com/rawkintrevo
> >http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
> >http://trevorgrant.org
> >
> >*"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
> >
> >
> >On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote 
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Trevor et al:
> >>
> >> Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
> >>
> >> Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
> >> language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
> >implementation.
> >> Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
> >>
> >> Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
> >but it
> >> seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
> >technology.
> >>
> >> Math is a universal language.  Right?
> >>
> >> Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
> >>
> >> SCott
> >>
> >> > On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
> >
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
> >like the
> >> > ones in front of me...
> >> >
> >> > I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
> >back to
> >> > me.
> >> >
> >> > The Enso.
> >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
> >> >
> >> > Things I like about it:
> >> > (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
> >prior
> >> is
> >> > that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
> >> > It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
> >> > ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
> >Hebrew-
> >> > which may be something akin to essence or truth.
> >> >
> >> > It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
> >> >
> >> > It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
> >which
> >> > symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
> >> expressive
> >> > like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
> >but
> >> I'm
> >> > spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
> >> >
> >> > "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
> >> > character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
> >brief,
> >> > contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
> >> >
> >> > In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
> >which
> >> a
> >> > little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
> >create a
> >> > perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
> >and
> >> how
> >> > could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
> >such
> >> > things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
> >> striving
> >> > for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
> >solving
> >> > problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
> >that
> >> we
> >> > can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
> >serve as
> >> > our blueprint.
> >> >
> >> > Finally, I like that it is simple.
> >> >
> >> > Things I don't like about it:
> >> > Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
> >very
> >> > specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
> >> >
> >> > Other thoughts:
> >> > Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
> >color
> >> > palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
> >This
> >> > could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
> >does
> >> to
> >> > our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
> >that
> >> is
> >> > the case is there any reason we must have a single Enso?)
> >> >
> >> > So there is something to throw in the pot that is a little more
> >grown up
> >> > than my runner up favorites (honey badger, blueman riding bomb
> >waving
> >> > cowboy hat, blueman riding ligh

Re: New logo

2017-05-06 Thread Scott C. Cote
Will you be wearing “one of those t-shirts” on Monday  in Houston :)   ?
SCott
Scott C. Cote
scottcc...@gmail.com
972.672.6484



> On May 6, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
> 
> I know where one of those t-shirts is.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm 
> wrote:
> 
>> The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came
>> up with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the
>> old logo printed in 2009.
>> 
>> 
>> Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <
>> trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>:
>>> Thanks Scott,
>>> 
>>> You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
>>> native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
>>> 
>>> Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
>>> anything about the origins/uses of this:
>>> https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
>>> It seems to be a green mahout logo.
>>> 
>>> Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
>>> website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
>>> apppreciate
>>> some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
>>> in
>>> some headers but those are only directional:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/
>> community/history.md
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Trevor Grant
>>> Data Scientist
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>>> 
>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Trevor et al:
 
 Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):
 
 Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
 language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
>>> implementation.
 Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….
 
 Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
>>> but it
 seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
>>> technology.
 
 Math is a universal language.  Right?
 
 Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….
 
 SCott
 
> On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
>>> 
 wrote:
> 
> It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
>>> like the
> ones in front of me...
> 
> I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
>>> back to
> me.
> 
> The Enso.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
> 
> Things I like about it:
> (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
>>> prior
 is
> that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
> It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
> ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
>>> Hebrew-
> which may be something akin to essence or truth.
> 
> It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
> 
> It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
>>> which
> symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
 expressive
> like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
>>> but
 I'm
> spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
> 
> "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
> character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
>>> brief,
> contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
> 
> In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
>>> which
 a
> little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
>>> create a
> perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
>>> and
 how
> could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
>>> such
> things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
 striving
> for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
>>> solving
> problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
>>> that
 we
> can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
>>> serve as
> our blueprint.
> 
> Finally, I like that it is simple.
> 
> Things I don't like about it:
> Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
>>> very
> specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
> 
> Other thoughts:
> Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
>>> color
> palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
>>> This
> could also be represented in any single color. (Not sure what that
>>> does
 to
> our TM, is it ok if we just keep slapping TMs on the side of it? If
>>> that
 is
> the case is there any reason we must

RE: New logo

2017-05-06 Thread Andrew Palumbo
+1 :)



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: "Scott C. Cote" 
Date: 05/06/2017 2:43 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: user@mahout.apache.org
Cc: Trevor Grant , Mahout Dev List 

Subject: Re: New logo

Will you be wearing “one of those t-shirts” on Monday  in Houston :)   ?
SCott
Scott C. Cote
scottcc...@gmail.com
972.672.6484



> On May 6, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Ted Dunning  wrote:
>
> I know where one of those t-shirts is.
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm 
> wrote:
>
>> The green logo was the very first design iteration before iirc Robin came
>> up with the yellow one. The should be like five TShirts world wide with the
>> old logo printed in 2009.
>>
>>
>> Am 1. Mai 2017 20:41:43 MESZ schrieb Trevor Grant <
>> trevor.d.gr...@gmail.com>:
>>> Thanks Scott,
>>>
>>> You are correct- in fact we're going even further now, that you can do
>>> native optimization regardless of the architecture with native-solvers.
>>>
>>> Do you or anyone more familiar with the history of the website know
>>> anything about the origins/uses of this:
>>> https://mahout.apache.org/images/Mahout-logo-245x300.png
>>> It seems to be a green mahout logo.
>>>
>>> Also Scott, or anyone lurking who may be able to help.  As part of the
>>> website reboot I've included a "history" page and would really
>>> apppreciate
>>> some help capturing that from first person sources if possible. Ive put
>>> in
>>> some headers but those are only directional:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo/mahout/blob/website/website/front/
>> community/history.md
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Trevor Grant
>>> Data Scientist
>>> https://github.com/rawkintrevo
>>> http://stackexchange.com/users/3002022/rawkintrevo
>>> http://trevorgrant.org
>>>
>>> *"Fortunate is he, who is able to know the causes of things."  -Virgil*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:18 AM, scott cote 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Trevor et al:

 Some ideas to spur you on (and related points):

 Mahout is no longer a grab bag of algorithms and routines, but a math
 language right?  You don’t care about the under the cover
>>> implementation.
 Today its Spark with alternative implementations in Flink, etc ….

 Don’t know if that is the long term goal still  - haven’t kept up -
>>> but it
 seems like you are insulating yourself from the underlying
>>> technology.

 Math is a universal language.  Right?

 Tower of Babel is coming to mind ….

 SCott

> On Apr 27, 2017, at 10:27 PM, Trevor Grant
>>> 
 wrote:
>
> It also bugs me when I can't suggest any alternatives, yet don't
>>> like the
> ones in front of me...
>
> I became aware of a symbol a week or so ago, and it keeps coming
>>> back to
> me.
>
> The Enso.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ens%C5%8D
>
> Things I like about it:
> (all from wikipedia, since the only thing I knew about this symbol
>>> prior
 is
> that someone I met had a tattoo of it).
> It represents (among a few other things) enlightenment.
> ^^ This resonated with the 'alternate definition of mahout' from
>>> Hebrew-
> which may be something akin to essence or truth.
>
> It is a circle- which plays to the Samsara theme.
>
> It is very expressive, a simple one or two brush stroke circle
>>> which
> symbolizes several large concepts and things about the creator,
 expressive
> like our DSL (I feel gross comparing such a symbol to a Scala DSL,
>>> but
 I'm
> spit balling here, please forgive me- I am not so expressive).
>
> "Once the *ensō* is drawn, one does not change it. It evidences the
> character of its creator and the context of its creation in a
>>> brief,
> contiguous period of time." Which reminds me of the DRMs
>
> In closed form it represents something akin to Plato's perfection-
>>> which
 a
> little more wiki surfing tells me is the idea that no one can
>>> create a
> perfect circle because a circle is a collection of infinite points
>>> and
 how
> could ever be sure that you have arranged each one properly, yet
>>> such
> things must exist, or what blueprint would a creator of circles be
 striving
> for.  This, by-the-by reminds me of stochastic approaches to
>>> solving
> problems, and really statistics / "machine-learning" in general, in
>>> that
 we
> can't find perfect solutions, yet we believe solutions exist and
>>> serve as
> our blueprint.
>
> Finally, I like that it is simple.
>
> Things I don't like about it:
> Lucent Technologies used it back in the 90s, however they used a
>>> very
> specific red one, and this isn't a deal breaker for me.
>
> Other thoughts:
> Based on the tattoo I saw- one could make an Enso using old mahout
>>> color
> palatte if one were to dab their brush in the appropriate colors.
>>> This
> could also b

Re: New logo

2017-05-06 Thread Ted Dunning
On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Scott C. Cote  wrote:

> Will you be wearing “one of those t-shirts” on Monday  in Houston :)   ?
>

Not likely.

It is in the archive.