Re: Party Information Needed
Thanks Matt for the detailed description. I bought the first book, going to buy them one at a time. On 3 February 2010 22:10, Matt Warnock wrote: > In my experience, these books are really valuable. I've read 1&2, just > got 3 (opened it 10 minutes ago). Silverston lays out how to store data > in tables that make sense, rather than (for example) the usual separate > tables for employees, suppliers, customers, etc. If a customer becomes > an employee, which record is "right"? Or what if Joe Jones moves from > headquarters to the branch office in Paducah? A role or location change > shouldn't upset the whole apple-cart. OFBiz follows these ideas. > > Yes it is more complex than the traditional model-- but you have to go > there anyway. Even my Motorola Droid now recognizes that any person may > have an arbitrary number of addresses and phone numbers, not just 1 fax, > 1 phone, 1 pager, etc. Same idea-- model the objects, then link them as > needed to show relationships. > > > > On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 14:08 +0200, Brendan Vogt wrote: > > I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all > 3 > > volumes? > > > > I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, > > and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 > > books help me? > > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow >wrote: > > > > > From memory: > > > > > > Product Management > > > Ordering > > > Invoicing > > > Shipments > > > Workeffort > > > HR > > > > > > > > > Brendan Vogt wrote: > > > > > >> With what else does it help with? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow < > sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Brendan Vogt wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how > > everything > > fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding > the > > party > > better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different > party > > types > > are like person, customer, employee, etc? > > > > Regards, > > Brendan > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > Matt Warnock > RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc. > >
Re: Party Information Needed
In my experience, these books are really valuable. I've read 1&2, just got 3 (opened it 10 minutes ago). Silverston lays out how to store data in tables that make sense, rather than (for example) the usual separate tables for employees, suppliers, customers, etc. If a customer becomes an employee, which record is "right"? Or what if Joe Jones moves from headquarters to the branch office in Paducah? A role or location change shouldn't upset the whole apple-cart. OFBiz follows these ideas. Yes it is more complex than the traditional model-- but you have to go there anyway. Even my Motorola Droid now recognizes that any person may have an arbitrary number of addresses and phone numbers, not just 1 fax, 1 phone, 1 pager, etc. Same idea-- model the objects, then link them as needed to show relationships. On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 14:08 +0200, Brendan Vogt wrote: > I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all 3 > volumes? > > I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, > and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 > books help me? > > > > > On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow wrote: > > > From memory: > > > > Product Management > > Ordering > > Invoicing > > Shipments > > Workeffort > > HR > > > > > > Brendan Vogt wrote: > > > >> With what else does it help with? > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow >> >wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. > >>> > >>> > >>> Brendan Vogt wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi, > > I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how > everything > fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the > party > better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party > types > are like person, customer, employee, etc? > > Regards, > Brendan > > > > > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- Matt Warnock RidgeCrest Herbals, Inc.
Re: Party Information Needed
the Data model books give you and Idea of how the data ties together, somewhat. Ofbiz has modified some of the ways data is handled. this will give you and Idea how ofbiz works http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Framework+Introduction+Videos+and+Diagrams here are some good links http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Documentation+Index http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo Brendan Vogt sent the following on 2/3/2010 4:08 AM: > I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all 3 > volumes? > > I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, > and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 > books help me? > > > > > On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow wrote: > >> From memory: >> >> Product Management >> Ordering >> Invoicing >> Shipments >> Workeffort >> HR >> >> >> Brendan Vogt wrote: >> >>> With what else does it help with? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow >>> wrote: >>> >>> The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. Brendan Vogt wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how > everything > fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the > party > better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party > types > are like person, customer, employee, etc? > > Regards, > Brendan > > > > > >>> >>> >> >
Re: Party Information Needed
The 1st volume is enough for most implementations Jacques From: "Christopher Snow" I bought all three, but haven't got past book 1! What are you struggling with in understanding ofbiz? Brendan Vogt wrote: I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all 3 volumes? I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 books help me? On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow wrote: From memory: Product Management Ordering Invoicing Shipments Workeffort HR Brendan Vogt wrote: With what else does it help with? On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow wrote: The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. Brendan Vogt wrote: Hi, I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the party better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party types are like person, customer, employee, etc? Regards, Brendan
Re: Party Information Needed
This is a good starting point: http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide Learning ofbiz can be a long journey, but it's worth it. Brendan Vogt wrote: I've just managed to get everything setup correctly, The webpages and everything work correctly. I want to figure out how everything works, so I decided to start with party manager because it looks the easiest to understand. So I am browsing the various party screens. So next step is to look at code to see how everything is done and how it adds, deletes, updates data to the database. Any ideas where to start looking for a novice beginner? I am a .NET programmer and don't have much experience with anything Java related. On 3 February 2010 14:10, Christopher Snow wrote: I bought all three, but haven't got past book 1! What are you struggling with in understanding ofbiz? Brendan Vogt wrote: I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all 3 volumes? I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 books help me? On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow wrote: From memory: Product Management Ordering Invoicing Shipments Workeffort HR Brendan Vogt wrote: With what else does it help with? On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow wrote: The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. Brendan Vogt wrote: Hi, I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the party better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party types are like person, customer, employee, etc? Regards, Brendan
Re: Party Information Needed
I've just managed to get everything setup correctly, The webpages and everything work correctly. I want to figure out how everything works, so I decided to start with party manager because it looks the easiest to understand. So I am browsing the various party screens. So next step is to look at code to see how everything is done and how it adds, deletes, updates data to the database. Any ideas where to start looking for a novice beginner? I am a .NET programmer and don't have much experience with anything Java related. On 3 February 2010 14:10, Christopher Snow wrote: > I bought all three, but haven't got past book 1! > > What are you struggling with in understanding ofbiz? > > > Brendan Vogt wrote: > >> I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all 3 >> volumes? >> >> I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, >> and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 >> books help me? >> >> >> >> >> On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow > >wrote: >> >> >> >>> From memory: >>> >>> Product Management >>> Ordering >>> Invoicing >>> Shipments >>> Workeffort >>> HR >>> >>> >>> Brendan Vogt wrote: >>> >>> >>> With what else does it help with? On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow >>> > wrote: > > > The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. > > > Brendan Vogt wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how >> everything >> fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the >> party >> better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party >> types >> are like person, customer, employee, etc? >> >> Regards, >> Brendan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
Re: Party Information Needed
I bought all three, but haven't got past book 1! What are you struggling with in understanding ofbiz? Brendan Vogt wrote: I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all 3 volumes? I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 books help me? On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow wrote: From memory: Product Management Ordering Invoicing Shipments Workeffort HR Brendan Vogt wrote: With what else does it help with? On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow wrote: The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. Brendan Vogt wrote: Hi, I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the party better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party types are like person, customer, employee, etc? Regards, Brendan
Re: Party Information Needed
I've just been reading it on Amazon. Is it worthwhile to go and buy all 3 volumes? I want to create my own e-commerce product in .NET, OFBiz too big for me, and the way things are done is not understandable for me. Will these 3 books help me? On 3 February 2010 14:03, Christopher Snow wrote: > From memory: > > Product Management > Ordering > Invoicing > Shipments > Workeffort > HR > > > Brendan Vogt wrote: > >> With what else does it help with? >> >> >> >> On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow > >wrote: >> >> >> >>> The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. >>> >>> >>> Brendan Vogt wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi, I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the party better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party types are like person, customer, employee, etc? Regards, Brendan >>> >>> >> >> >> > >
Re: Party Information Needed
From memory: Product Management Ordering Invoicing Shipments Workeffort HR Brendan Vogt wrote: With what else does it help with? On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow wrote: The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. Brendan Vogt wrote: Hi, I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the party better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party types are like person, customer, employee, etc? Regards, Brendan
Re: Party Information Needed
With what else does it help with? On 3 February 2010 13:46, Christopher Snow wrote: > The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. > > > Brendan Vogt wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything >> fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the >> party >> better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party >> types >> are like person, customer, employee, etc? >> >> Regards, >> Brendan >> >> >> > >
Re: Party Information Needed
The Data Model Resource book volume 1 really helps with this. Brendan Vogt wrote: Hi, I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the party better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party types are like person, customer, employee, etc? Regards, Brendan
Party Information Needed
Hi, I am trying to understand how the party manager works, and how everything fits in together. Is there any documentation about understanding the party better? Like for example, how do I find out what the different party types are like person, customer, employee, etc? Regards, Brendan
Re: Party Information
Hi Brendan, We can create Party for any person or group. A person is for a single person and a Group is for any organization or a departments in an organization. We can assign roles (more than one) to each person according to the roles they play in a organization (like employee, customer, vendor etc.). We can also create PartyRelationships to represent the relation between different persons, groups and person to group. We can also upload Contents for a Party(person). We can create UserLogin for each person and associate it to a SecurityGroup to give him required access permissions to the System. There are many more functions available for a Party that can be used according to individual's purpose. On Dec 9, 2007 7:12 PM, Brendan Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > > > Is there any document-specific information about the party section? What > I > mean is I need to know what type of party is used for what? And maybe an > explanation for all the input fields. I don't know when I party is a > person > or an employee? Every one that works for me is going to use the system, > so > is he/she a person or an employee. > > > > If there is anything like this please let me know. I am trying to learn > as > much as possible about the OFBiz system but by bit. > > > > Thanks > > Brendan > > -- Thanks & Regards Mridul Pathak Hotwax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Office : 509.855.4113 Mobile : +919425926892
Re: Party Information
Employee in ofbiz is a Person with role "EMPLOYE" https://localhost:8443/partymgr/control/viewroles?partyId=admin Brendan Vogt wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Is there any document-specific information about the party section? What > I > mean is I need to know what type of party is used for what? And maybe an > explanation for all the input fields. I don't know when I party is a > person > or an employee? Every one that works for me is going to use the system, > so > is he/she a person or an employee. > > > > If there is anything like this please let me know. I am trying to learn > as > much as possible about the OFBiz system but by bit. > > > > Thanks > > Brendan > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Party-Information-tp14238709p14296508.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Party Information
Hi there, Is there any document-specific information about the party section? What I mean is I need to know what type of party is used for what? And maybe an explanation for all the input fields. I don't know when I party is a person or an employee? Every one that works for me is going to use the system, so is he/she a person or an employee. If there is anything like this please let me know. I am trying to learn as much as possible about the OFBiz system but by bit. Thanks Brendan
