Re: Help OFBiz Help - day

2012-05-07 Thread Scott Gray
Please stop posting to both lists.

Thanks
Scott

On 8/05/2012, at 1:54 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

 Dear All,
 
 Did you know that OFBiz contains a solution delivering a help to each
 screen accessed? And do you use it?
 
 Currently for following applications/components help is available:
 
   - Accounting
   - Commonext
   - Content
   - Humanres
   - Marketing
   - Order
   - Party
   - Product
   - SpecialPurpose/Ebay
   - SpecialPurpose/EbayStore
   - SpecialPurpose/Example
   - SpecialPurpose/Googlebase
   - SpecialPurpose/ProjectMgr
   - SpecialPurpose/Scrum
 
 But, the help documents aren't complete (and in several cases not
 up-to-date) and for some applications/components totally missing (e.g.
 manufacturing). Also, documents mainly exist in English (only a few
 documents are in e.g. Dutch, Italian of French).
 
 As you would probably agree, the help document for a screen should be the
 first place to look when an end-user looks for help.
 
 What if we create a dedicated 'Help-OFBiz-Help' moment to improve and
 extend the help documents?
 Create the structure for applications that don't have it currently, create
 the missing English documents for each screen accessible, embed it in the
 help structure and extend the localized versions?
 
 How do you feel about this plan? Please provide your feedback/thoughts on
 this and how you can contribute, in order for us to establish a plan.
 
 Regards,
 
 Pierre



Re: Help OFBiz Help - day

2012-05-07 Thread Pierre Smits
Scott,

Contrary to what you and Jacopo (see
thishttp://ofbiz.markmail.org/search/?q=%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22#query:%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22%20from%3A%22Jacopo%20Cappellato%22+page:1+mid:2lceqdtlm5chbpm5+state:results)
believe, the developer mailing is for the developers of the project. That
means intended for anyone participating in developing code ánd the
community. It is not the
Only-for-committers-who-do-code-only-and-where-other-communitiy-members-may-only-ask-limited-questions-per-issue
mailing list.

Some community members may have chosen to only read the dev mail. I want to
invite them as well to pariticpate in the Help OFBiz Help-day.

Pierre


2012/5/7 Scott Gray scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com

 Please stop posting to both lists.

 Thanks
 Scott

 On 8/05/2012, at 1:54 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

  Dear All,
 
  Did you know that OFBiz contains a solution delivering a help to each
  screen accessed? And do you use it?
 
  Currently for following applications/components help is available:
 
- Accounting
- Commonext
- Content
- Humanres
- Marketing
- Order
- Party
- Product
- SpecialPurpose/Ebay
- SpecialPurpose/EbayStore
- SpecialPurpose/Example
- SpecialPurpose/Googlebase
- SpecialPurpose/ProjectMgr
- SpecialPurpose/Scrum
 
  But, the help documents aren't complete (and in several cases not
  up-to-date) and for some applications/components totally missing (e.g.
  manufacturing). Also, documents mainly exist in English (only a few
  documents are in e.g. Dutch, Italian of French).
 
  As you would probably agree, the help document for a screen should be the
  first place to look when an end-user looks for help.
 
  What if we create a dedicated 'Help-OFBiz-Help' moment to improve and
  extend the help documents?
  Create the structure for applications that don't have it currently,
 create
  the missing English documents for each screen accessible, embed it in the
  help structure and extend the localized versions?
 
  How do you feel about this plan? Please provide your feedback/thoughts on
  this and how you can contribute, in order for us to establish a plan.
 
  Regards,
 
  Pierre




Re: Help OFBiz Help - day

2012-05-07 Thread Scott Gray
Please don't try and tell me what I believe, I have no problem with you posting 
to the dev list so long as you're contributing and not asking basic questions.

But nobody else cross posts and most of us subscribe to both lists.  You've 
done this repeatedly over the last few weeks, I understand that you think your 
messages are very important but I can assure you they are no more important 
that anyone else's and we all seem to get by just fine by choosing one list to 
post our messages to.  It's just basic netiquette.

Regards
Scott

On 8/05/2012, at 8:46 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:

 Scott,
 
 Contrary to what you and Jacopo (see
 thishttp://ofbiz.markmail.org/search/?q=%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22#query:%22framework%2Fbase%20tests%20failing%22%20from%3A%22Jacopo%20Cappellato%22+page:1+mid:2lceqdtlm5chbpm5+state:results)
 believe, the developer mailing is for the developers of the project. That
 means intended for anyone participating in developing code ánd the
 community. It is not the
 Only-for-committers-who-do-code-only-and-where-other-communitiy-members-may-only-ask-limited-questions-per-issue
 mailing list.
 
 Some community members may have chosen to only read the dev mail. I want to
 invite them as well to pariticpate in the Help OFBiz Help-day.
 
 Pierre
 
 
 2012/5/7 Scott Gray scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com
 
 Please stop posting to both lists.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 On 8/05/2012, at 1:54 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
 
 Dear All,
 
 Did you know that OFBiz contains a solution delivering a help to each
 screen accessed? And do you use it?
 
 Currently for following applications/components help is available:
 
  - Accounting
  - Commonext
  - Content
  - Humanres
  - Marketing
  - Order
  - Party
  - Product
  - SpecialPurpose/Ebay
  - SpecialPurpose/EbayStore
  - SpecialPurpose/Example
  - SpecialPurpose/Googlebase
  - SpecialPurpose/ProjectMgr
  - SpecialPurpose/Scrum
 
 But, the help documents aren't complete (and in several cases not
 up-to-date) and for some applications/components totally missing (e.g.
 manufacturing). Also, documents mainly exist in English (only a few
 documents are in e.g. Dutch, Italian of French).
 
 As you would probably agree, the help document for a screen should be the
 first place to look when an end-user looks for help.
 
 What if we create a dedicated 'Help-OFBiz-Help' moment to improve and
 extend the help documents?
 Create the structure for applications that don't have it currently,
 create
 the missing English documents for each screen accessible, embed it in the
 help structure and extend the localized versions?
 
 How do you feel about this plan? Please provide your feedback/thoughts on
 this and how you can contribute, in order for us to establish a plan.
 
 Regards,
 
 Pierre