Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-17 Thread Tim Ruppert

Anytime gents - anytime.

Cheers,
Ruppert
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On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:49 AM, David E Jones wrote:



Yes, thanks for your work on that Tim... both now and previously.

-David


On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Thanks Tim,

Looking forward for progress

Jacques

From: "Tim Ruppert" 
Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its  
good to  go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move  
it to Apache.


Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:



IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along  
at  will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems  
or there  are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural  
thing to do.


-David


On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?

Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade  
Confluence  to prepare for the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its  
title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems  
that Confluence is  not able to change some links (with  
anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and  
it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed  
it, and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz  
Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly  
handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even  
better  take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to  
Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
 (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a   
title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm  
pretty sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others)  
have been  fixed in  newer version (though I will remember  
to test that  when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and  
mine   crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou  
migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the  
same   space. It handles the title change but removes the  
"SPACE:" part  in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning






















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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-17 Thread David E Jones


Yes, thanks for your work on that Tim... both now and previously.

-David


On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:47 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


Thanks Tim,

Looking forward for progress

Jacques

From: "Tim Ruppert" 
Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its good  
to  go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move it to  
Apache.


Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:



IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at   
will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or  
there  are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing  
to do.


-David


On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?

Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade  
Confluence  to prepare for the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its  
title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems  
that Confluence is  not able to change some links (with  
anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and  
it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed  
it, and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz  
Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly handled  
by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better   
take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache  
server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
 (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a   
title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty  
sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have  
been  fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test  
that  when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine
crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the  
same   space. It handles the title change but removes the  
"SPACE:" part  in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning




















Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-17 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Thanks Tim,

Looking forward for progress

Jacques

From: "Tim Ruppert" 
Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its good to  go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move 
it to Apache.


Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:



IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at  will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or 
there  are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing to do.


-David


On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?


Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence  to prepare 
for the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that 
Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, 
and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by 
Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache 
server 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
(enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a  title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty 
sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been  fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test 
that  when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine   crossed on wire, 
anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same   space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" 
part  in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning



















Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-17 Thread Tim Ruppert
Ok - I'll start the process now and will let you know when its good to  
go.  I think we should upgrade our JIRA first - then move it to Apache.


Cheers,
Ruppert
--
Tim Ruppert
HotWax Media
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com

o:801.649.6594
f:801.649.6595

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:39 PM, David E Jones wrote:



IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at  
will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or there  
are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing to do.


-David


On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?

Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence  
to prepare for the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  
may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that  
Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  
itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it   
broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting   
Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  
take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache  
server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
 (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a  
title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty  
sure this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been  
fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test that  
when we will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine   
crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same   
space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part  
in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning















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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-17 Thread David E Jones


IMO this is something that an infra volunteer could push along at  
will. In other words, unless it is likely to cause problems or there  
are alternatives to discuss I'd say it is a natural thing to do.


-David


On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?

Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to  
prepare for the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  
may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that  
Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  
itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it   
broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting   
Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  
take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
 (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title   
but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure  
this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed  
in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when we  
will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine   
crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same   
space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part  
in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning













Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: "Tim Ruppert" 

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Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?


tinyURLs in Confluence - that's what was being said was moved ...


Ha yes, it's a misundestanding I was speaking about the URL you see below. It 
comes from Jira. I know about Confluence.

Jacques


Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to  prepare 
for the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?


Not up to me - but I would imagine it.



Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that 
Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it   broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, 
and  checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting   Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by 
Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache 
server 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
(enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title   but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure 
this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed  in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when 
we  will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine   crossed on wire, 
anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same   space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" 
part  in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning

















Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-15 Thread Tim Ruppert

inline

Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:


From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?


tinyURLs in Confluence - that's what was being said was moved ...

Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to  
prepare for the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?


Not up to me - but I would imagine it.



Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title  
may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that  
Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by  
itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it   
broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting   
Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better  
take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
 (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title   
but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure  
this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed  
in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when we  
will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine   
crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same   
space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part  
in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning













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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: "Tim Ruppert" 

Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.


tinyURLs in Jira ? How to ?


Also, as I've been asking  forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to prepare for 
the move to Apache?


A big +1 from me... Do we need a vote ?

Jacques


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may  be used to link from other pages and it seems that 
Confluence is  not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself  (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it  broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and 
checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting  Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take  this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
(enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title  but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure 
this  kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in  newer version (though I will remember to test that when we 
will  have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine  crossed on wire, 
anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same  space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part 
in  the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning












Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-15 Thread Tim Ruppert
Use the tinyURLs then - they never change.  Also, as I've been asking  
forever - shall we upgrade Confluence to prepare for the move to Apache?


Cheers,
Ruppert

On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:



- Original Message - From: "Jacques Le Roux" >

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may  
be used to link from other pages and it seems that Confluence is  
not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself  
(disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it  
broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and  
checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting  
Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take  
this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
 (enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title  
but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure this  
kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in  
newer version (though I will remember to test that when we will  
have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine  
crossed on wire, anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same  
space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part in  
the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning








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Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux


- Original Message - 
From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: Our Confluence version sucks



From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may be used to link from other pages and it seems that Confluence 
is not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and 
checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
(enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure this 
kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in newer version (though I will remember to test that when we will 
have migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine crossed on wire, 
anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue


Exactly : it does not handle it right when it's not in the same space. It handles the title change but removes the "SPACE:" part in 
the link. Enough for today :/


Jacques


Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning








Re: Our Confluence version sucks

2009-11-15 Thread Jacques Le Roux

From: "Jacques Le Roux" 

Hi,

Be careful when you change the title of a wiki page. Its title may be used to link from other pages and it seems that Confluence 
is not able to change some links (with anchor?)  by itself (disappointing).
For instance, Anil just changed the tutorial page title and it broke a link with an anchor I made yesterday. I fixed it, and 
checked : there was another link from "Apache OFBiz Getting Started" which seems to have been correctly handled by Confluence


So we should be careful with that (see below) or even better take this as another reason to quickly migrate to Apache server 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877?focusedCommentId=12777801&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#action_12777801 
(enjoy tiny link from Jira :D )
We could of course check incoming links before changing a title but this becomes to be very tedious :/, and I'm pretty sure this 
kinds of thing (and hopefully some others) have been fixed in newer version (though I will remember to test that when we will have 
migrated, damned! :( )


Afterthought : also it could be that Anil's change and mine crossed on wire, 
anyway not a reason to delay ou migration...


I Checked : it's a Confluence issue

Jacques


Thanks

Jacques
PS : bad beginning for a sunday morning